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schuylaar · May 3, 2015

Rob Roy said:
You might be failing to differentiate between defensive force and offensive force.

Coercion is a kind of offensive force.

If a person or group of people calling themselves "government" uses offensive force are they in the right or in the wrong?

why are you so obstinate?..i'm reading this thread and everyone's poll results..one right after the other..everyone's cool reviewing results..see your avi come up and said to myself how much you want to bet this fucker didn't do the poll?

derail. all pada did was suggest.

please tell me what is wrong with you?

when you were in school, how did you work on a group project with other students?

before you retired, how did you handle the rules at work? your bosses? authority? we still don't know the whole story when you went down to city hall to pay your property taxes..'no comment' you say :lol:

EDIT: you seem like a nice gentle guy until you open your mouth about 'voluntaryism'.

Glaucoma · May 3, 2015

Rob Roy said:
You might be failing to differentiate between defensive force and offensive force.

Coercion is a kind of offensive force.

If a person or group of people calling themselves "government" uses offensive force are they in the right or in the wrong?

So if a 'criminal' does not consent to your 'arbitration', you would just let him go or would you use force?

UncleBuck · May 3, 2015

Rob Roy said:
You might be failing to differentiate between defensive force and offensive force.

don't you call black people offering oney in exchange for goods and services a form of "offensive force" though?

and don't you call kicking people out of stores based solely on their skin color a type of "defensive force" though?

seems like things are a bit backwards in your fantastic utopia where everything is rape but pedophilia is voluntary.

Rob Roy · May 3, 2015

schuylaar said:
why are you so obstinate?..i'm reading this thread and everyone's poll results..one right after the other..everyone's cool reviewing results..see your avi come up and said to myself how much you want to bet this fucker didn't do the poll?

derail. all pada did was suggest.

please tell me what is wrong with you?

when you were in school, how did you work on a group project with other students?

before you retired, how did you handle the rules at work? your bosses? authority? we still don't know the whole story when you went down to city hall to pay your property taxes..'no comment' you say

EDIT: you seem like a nice gentle guy until you open your mouth about 'voluntaryism'.

My apologies, I wasn't trying to derail Paddy's thread. Although the concept of the thread, which brand of coercion does a person prefer, has some irony. Not to be a dick, but I am often amused by things here, if that is okay.

Nothing wrong with me, the poll wasn't applicable to me that's all. I think arguing which kind of turd you like to polish misses the point. I am, as you know, anti-political and anti initiation of violence. Hence my response.

Before I retired I worked for myself. I did have bosses as a younger man and was a "rising star" in a corporate world.

Thank you for your assessment of my character. Pretty close...I work for peace, that's why I advocate voluntary and consensual human relations.

Rob Roy · May 3, 2015

UncleBuck said:
don't you call black people offering oney in exchange for goods and services a form of "offensive force" though?

and don't you call kicking people out of stores based solely on their skin color a type of "defensive force" though?

seems like things are a bit backwards in your fantastic utopia where everything is rape but pedophilia is voluntary.

I see dead horses..many dead horses.

Rob Roy · May 3, 2015

Glaucoma said:
So if a 'criminal' does not consent to your 'arbitration', you would just let him go or would you use force?

If a person is accused of a crime in the present paradigm now, what happens?

I can answer your question in a bit, just humor me for awhile and answer a question or two.

BTW - thank you for engaging in a reasonable conversation, it is refreshing

Glaucoma · May 3, 2015

Rob Roy said:
If a person is accused of a crime in the present paradigm now, what happens?

I can answer your question in a bit, just humor me for awhile and answer a question or two.

BTW - thank you for engaging in a reasonable conversation, it is refreshing

They are (maybe) arrested and given due process. Hopefully. =)

Next?

UncleBuck · May 3, 2015

Rob Roy said:
I see dead horses..many dead horses.

why don't you like for me to explicate your racist philosophy in terms people can understand?

Rob Roy · May 4, 2015

UncleBuck said:
don't you call black people offering oney in exchange for goods and services a form of "offensive force" though?

and don't you call kicking people out of stores based solely on their skin color a type of "defensive force" though?

seems like things are a bit backwards in your fantastic utopia where everything is rape but pedophilia is voluntary.

"The superficial distinctions of Fascism, Bolshevism, Hitlerism, are the concern of journalists and publicists; the serious student sees in them only one root-idea of a complete conversion of social power into State power." ~ Albert Jay Nock

Rob Roy · May 4, 2015

UncleBuck said:
why don't you like for me to explicate your racist philosophy in terms people can understand?

I don't hold a racist philosophy could be one reason. You have combined my respect for every persons right to chose their associations with an endorsement of how some would chose not to associate with others. Your argument is flawed and relies on an erroneous leap. You do that alot, but most people are used to it.

Why don't you like me to explicate your endorsement that a prohibitionist nanny state should control human interactions using force philosophy?

Rob Roy · May 4, 2015

Glaucoma said:
They are (maybe) arrested and given due process. Hopefully. =)

Next?

Is that due process flawless? Ever any errors in it? Does that due process remain restricted to "real crimes" or is much of it focused on mala prohibitum type statutory laws that are in place to control others?

MuyLocoNC · May 4, 2015

Well, what do you know?

I'm sure I was gonna fall into the "Right Wing Fanatical Fringe" category. That's what I keep getting told by certain members and Rollie. And they're so smart too. Weird.

Stupid website specifically says I'm a Centrist.

UncleBuck · May 4, 2015

Rob Roy said:
I don't hold a racist philosophy

but you think it should be legal to kick people out of stores based solely on their race though. even you said that policy is racist.

so you hold and endorse racist philosophies, but you yourself are not racist?

explain that to me.

potroastV2 · May 4, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
Well, what do you know?

I'm sure I was gonna fall into the "Right Wing Fanatical Fringe" category. That's what I keep getting told by certain members and Rollie. And they're so smart too. Weird.

Stupid website specifically says I'm a Centrist.

I said you are a redneck.

Your results show that you are a Centrist.

That's a redneck to me.

So you are correct, I am smart.

:mrgreen:

see4 · May 4, 2015

rollitup said:
I said you are a redneck.

Your results show that you are a Centrist.

That's a redneck to me.

So you are correct, I am smart.

$10 says he changed his answers to fit more in the Centrist crowd.

I am considered Centrist according to this website, and though I hold conservative ideals, not in a million fucking years would I ever associate with a redneck fuck-stack like MuyPoco

MuyLocoNC · May 4, 2015

see4 said:
$10 says he changed his answers to fit more in the Centrist crowd.

I am considered Centrist according to this website, and though I hold conservative ideals, not in a million fucking years would I ever associate with a redneck fuck-stack like MuyPoco

First off, I'll let you know where to send the $10.

Secondly, you couldn't make it past the gate to associate with the good folk in my community. We pay good money to keep the riffraff out.

MuyLocoNC · May 4, 2015

rollitup said:
I said you are a redneck.

Your results show that you are a Centrist.

That's a redneck to me.

So you are correct, I am smart.

So, transplanted Californians are rednecks? I guess anything is possible. I need to let all my acquaintances know I'm a redneck, I'm certain none of them would ever suspect it.

And, I'm always correct, just not politically.

see4 · May 4, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
First off, I'll let you know where to send the $10.

Secondly, you couldn't make it past the gate to associate with the good folk in my community. We pay good money to keep the riffraff out.

Retired at 16, multi-billionaire living in Beverly Hills inside a private gated community, asking me for $10.

I too living in a gated community, its also one of the best country clubs in the Phoenix area, there are two professional athletes that live down the road from me. And best of all, my penis is bigger than yours.

MuyLocoNC said:
And, I'm always correct, just not politically.

Padawanbater2 · May 4, 2015

MuyLocoNC said:
And, I'm always correct, just not politically.

Anthropogenic climate change

NewtoMJ · May 4, 2015

I live in a northeast Florida ghetto, two professional crack cookers live 4 buildings down. My penis is average. COME AT ME!

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