The 12-12 From Seed Thread

Bakatare666

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:shock::shock: Looking tasty Baka
Nice job my friend
Nice. Is it done? Or does that blueberry just not have a very tight calyx stricture? Just to me looks like a lot of white pistils that haven't receded back into their calyxes yet. Not hating, looks good and frosty! :)
Ya, I probably could have gotten a little more out of it, but I was where I wanted it with the trichs.
It has nice structure, and I'm sure it could have been better if I had less plants to care for (thus a little more room/ light), but it is still crowded in there with the other Berry and the Diesel.
 

desertdog

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Wow, that's a lot of goodies to be feeding, more than for my liking, but if it works for you, then more power to ya.
I like to keep it simple, and just have a couple things high in P and K for when I need it, and an all purpose fert, that has N in it, and juggle to get what my gals want.
I was surprised to see them take it so well. I am going to run up to 400 ppm this week and then just water for a week and trans into flower. Once I get the second 1000 watt up I will be able to do six on each side in four gallon squares. I just want to see how this goes and if I get what I want this may be the only way I grow from here out. Once flowers set I have bud blaster, snow storm and their crystal stuff along with gravity to push them girls. I think I am going keep the ppms of nutes around 5-600 to make sure I don't slow them down in flower. I will get the 1 week pic up soon. They are week one thurs literally. I popped em planted em and they went right under the triple X with the 1000 digilux. If I had not been able to get my nutes so cheap I would have just used fox farm, but I kept running into stores going out of business. Thanks again.
 

Johnxnyg

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Ok Guys I really did read this thread from start to finish. I am starting four plants, and then once I flip those 4 to 12/12 I am going to be doing 2 more 12/12 from Seed from and then on out so I can keep a perpetual grow going. I just need a few quick questions answered, because reading this thread, there have been two pretty polar views of this. Maybe with enough luck I can get King del's attention for a min. Or one of the other home run hitters in this thread... There are many!

I am going to be going 12/12 for now on, as this is a personal grow and i just want to try as many strains as I can, and have a very vast pallet in the next few years.
Three questions,

Can I top the 12/12 plants once after the third node to produce 2 colas in the 12/12fs format, or because it does not have enough veg time to recover I should not. (*Those were the two views I have found*)

I know I can scrog and LST, are these two methods to be done without topping and recommended more then topping? (if topping is reccomended at all)

I do not need to have HUGE yields off o these plants but under a 400w Solar Storm (362actual wattage) What yields can i expect ((A ballpark answer is fine)I just want to make sure I will have enough for my self to smoke))

Any advice tips you guys have for a new grower to try (Maybe in an order or easiest things to try and learn for my own) to get great but and a good enough yield for individual smoking?

Appreciate anything and everything. Thanks guys!
 

B166ER420

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Can I top the 12/12 plants once after the third node to produce 2 colas in the 12/12fs format, or because it does not have enough veg time to recover I should not. (*Those were the two views I have found*)


I know I can scrog and LST, are these two methods to be done without topping and recommended more then topping? (if topping is reccomended at all)

I do not need to have HUGE yields off o these plants but under a 400w Solar Storm (362actual wattage) What yields can i expect ((A ballpark answer is fine)I just want to make sure I will have enough for my self to smoke))

Any advice tips you guys have for a new grower to try (Maybe in an order or easiest things to try and learn for my own) to get great but and a good enough yield for individual smoking?

Appreciate anything and everything. Thanks guys!
I would not recommend topping....unless you get a fast growing strain:).12/12 from seed plants will start to flower in 3 weeks+/-.Topping would just stunt growth.

There won't be enough veg time for a scrog,but a sog or some lst can be useful.

With that 362 solar storm using 3g containers I would expect no less than 1.5z per.

My tips are...
To use as big a container as possible.
Use a mixed spectrum of veg lights until stretch is over,then switch to a mixed spectrum of flowering lights.

Hope I helped,GOOD LUCK!
 

blazingrngras

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Hello ive been a member here for 2.5ish years. Just a few newbie 12/12 question. On the dual light spectrum i have a 600w currently running on 450w, when would the best time be to introduce the blue(250ish watt) my beautiful gals are 2.5week of pistil and production a grand total of 6.5 weeks along
And the second question is i have a stativa pheno and indica pheno from same plant i didnt grow. So how long does total flower time on average last. Could the stativa go a true 14 weeks or is that cut in 1/2 . Bagseed.hydro 5 gal res
 

B166ER420

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Hello ive been a member here for 2.5ish years. Just a few newbie 12/12 question. On the dual light spectrum i have a 600w currently running on 450w, when would the best time be to introduce the blue(250ish watt) my beautiful gals are 2.5week of pistil and production a grand total of 6.5 weeks along
And the second question is i have a stativa pheno and indica pheno from same plant i didnt grow. So how long does total flower time on average last. Could the stativa go a true 14 weeks or is that cut in 1/2 . Bagseed.hydro 5 gal res


1st question..."when would the best time be to introduce the blue(250w-ish...light)?"
Well your time for that is long gone....imo you should have used the blue 250-ish with the 600 on half power for the first 4 weeks.
Blue spectrum is for veg stage,red spectrum is for flowering.

2nd question..."so how long does total flower time on average last?"
I would expect at least 10 weeks on the indica and 14 weeks for the sativa...BUT it's all genetics:eyesmoke:
 

blazingrngras

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Okay. Perfect thank you for your input. The dual spec i kinda new i f'd but thanks for the words of grace. And for flower times i guess i should be thankful for a long run!
 

desertdog

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Ok I checked the Heri-Cripples last night and did not pay attention to the calendar. I fed them at 400ppm and today they look great. I only wish I had put them under 5500k cfl's where I used to start my clones. Oh well they are fine and about 16 inches from the digilux 1000 and two 300 k cfl's in flower room. They are getting floralicious, micro nutes from gen hydro, silica, Ca +, great white, carboload, pot of gold, rapid start, flora blend, Diamond nectar and a tad of nitro. There seem to be two different phenos showing small with narrow leaves and large with fat round cabbage type leaves. The large plants are almost three times the size of the smaller ones and they sprouted on the same day so this should be interesting. I will pull one back as soon as sex shows to make it the feminizer for the next round of beans so all will be girls from the jump. I will try to get the pics up tomorrow. I finally got some decent pics so tell me what ya think. I noticed that some people start the beans in party cups then when sex shows the girls go into the biger pots. I don't dig that so I just figured I will save the dirt for the next girl. Transplanting while in transition did not appeal to me. Making the next round Fembots will eliminate that BS anyway. I may not get any boys seeing how the temps never went over 74 in germ, and less now. The high is 72 low 68. The next feeding will be a transition feeding with a little flower power 450ppms to 500. I am trying to get to 800 ppms by week 5 so I can give them the whole food basket. If they take it I wont push further than 900 unless they tell me they want it lol.
 

desertdog

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This is my first run at myself. I am using 2 gallon square pots with promix. I popped em in rapid rooters planted em then the next day fed em at 300 ppms. They liked it so much I boosted em to 450 five days later and they are doing great. My food was Ca Mg +, silica, floralicious, Carboload, pot of gold, great white in the soil, and diamond nectar. Not really food, but that is what I did. The next feeding I added flora micro. On the next feeding they will get a little nitro. I am using a 100 watt digilux at about 16 inches away. I am using my own breeders Herijuana x Crippleberry Heri-cripple. Both Indicas I hope this helps. Be slow with the nitogen seedlings flame out fast. The stuff I use has some in it and they love what I am doing. Big pots=big plants so don't scimp. Also germ then plant in permanent pot. Why slow them down by transplanting a plant that is still a baby and going through transition at the same time. Every stress=less.
 

nameno

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Good Morning hsf,heck Good Morning All! May buds overtake the grow rooms today!


edit: Johnny 1 thing I wish I had done that is very simple,
Take notes,I can't remember much anymore.
Too many concusions.I wish I had written everything down or hired a sexatary.lol
 

Mukky400

Member
So I have read oh so much of this thread and love it oh so much.


I have one 4x2x7 tent with a 400w hps/mh light, fan and filter as well, I plan on going 12/12 with some feminized barneys farm blue cheese. I plan on growing in coco, and using mostly hesi nutes right now. 4 should fit nicely in this tent, correct?


After my tax return comes back, im looking at another identical setup to run some tga subcool jock horror. Anyone grown this strain 12/12?

I might make a cab with a 150 watt cfl for seedlings as well. Im aiming for 2 oz per plant, I believe I can accomplish that.
 

glockdoc

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nice 1st post welcome! do it to it and make sure to keep reading and taking notes from some of your favorite threads!
 

starcraftguy1988

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Dr.J20

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Hey guys, so i've got a ton of headband seeds from a buddy that i've tried to run 12/12 in party cups w/100% perlite and hempy style. I don't want to try that again, i'd rather just use my own well cooked super soil and modified 2L containers. I have a 4x2x6 tent that i want to run these headband seeds in under 420w induction plus another 432w PAR T5 for side lighting. How many do you think i could reasonably do 12/12 from seed in that space?
This wouldn't be starting until june or so, but i just wanted to get my thoughts going on this...what do you think, 8-9 plants?
thanks everybody!
be easy :peace:
 

Dabolili

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MasterKush-White Amnesia.jpgLadies.jpg

Hi everyone . This is my first try at 12/12fs .
Pic1 : White Widow X Amnesia Haze on the left ( sos freebie - fem ) and Master Kush on the right ( Nirvana - reg )
Pic2 : Master Kush on the bottom . WW x Amnesia up top
MK is a couple of days older . little over a month from sprouting . Don't remember exactly
Soil : FFOF

 
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