The 12-12 From Seed Thread

[Opie1971]

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Hey folks my almost 12/12fs and first post on RIU wassup

Looking good. What strains have ya got there?

 

[CutTheCrapBringOnTheMeat]

Looking good. What strains have ya got there?

Hey man thanks a lot
I have blue cheese,blueberry,blue mystic,og kush,pineapple chunk,unknown bagseed,silver afghan kush,and cheese...been on 12/12 for a week tomorrow

 

[CutTheCrapBringOnTheMeat]

Hey guys coming along nicely for only 2 weeks veg from seed nearly 2 weeks since flip

 

[Opie1971]

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Hey guys coming along nicely for only 2 weeks veg from seed nearly 2 weeks since flip

Looks great so far, keep us updated on how your doing.
Here’s two Animal Cookies x Blue Dream that I’ve got that were started under 12/12. I’ve got more pics that I’ll post later.

This one is yellow looking because of the light (3000k).

 

[CutTheCrapBringOnTheMeat]

Yours look really healthy is that your own cross?

 

[CutTheCrapBringOnTheMeat]

I’ll get some lights off pics so you can see better guys I know how decieving yellow pics can be

 

[Opie1971]

Yours look really healthy is that your own cross?

No, they are GreenPoint fem testers.

 

[CutTheCrapBringOnTheMeat]

Looks a lot better without hps huh ps starting to get stinky yeeha

 

[CutTheCrapBringOnTheMeat]

 

[Opie1971]

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Yes, looks much better. Healthy plants man.

 

[dangermonk3]

Rainbow chip and Krazy runtz asking how they look and any suggestions? Did about 1 week veg under 12/12.

 

[SamWE19]

Hey Toad...I did a lot of work on 12/12 and kept detailed journals for times just like this!

12/12 From Seed Experiment - 21 Strains

Welcome to my journal! I encourage you to ask questions, provide suggestions, or leave feedback. OVERVIEW: There will be a total of 53 seeds representing 21 different strains. These will be distributed among two different pot sizes. The pots I have chosen to use are called Tree Pots and, after...

www.rollitup.org

Pages 1 thru 33 was the 1st go
Pages 85 thru 98 was another great one

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Hi mate did you end up figuring out the best density for yield?

I'm considering doing this simply for ease of grow

I am setting up a grow space 4.2m x 3.6m
I won't be able to access the inside plants so wont be defoliating or removing branches I want to set and forget and use my automation to feed the plants

My main considerations I could use your help on are is it possible to keep the plants under 40cm tall?

Did you achieve the 4 oz sqft you wanted and did you try less density without defoliating?

Cheers

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

Hi mate did you end up figuring out the best density for yield?

I'm considering doing this simply for ease of grow

I am setting up a grow space 4.2m x 3.6m
I won't be able to access the inside plants so wont be defoliating or removing branches I want to set and forget and use my automation to feed the plants

My main considerations I could use your help on are is it possible to keep the plants under 40cm tall?

Did you achieve the 4 oz sqft you wanted and did you try less density without defoliating?

Cheers

Height is mostly going to be dictated by genetics. I have not been tracking yields because I've been focusing on other things. If you're looking for a set it and forget it, just be aware that mixing genetics is not advised. If you are not able to elevate the shorter plants, there is good chance they can become overwhelmed by the taller neighbors. I have been removing all of the branches but I do not remove their corresponding fan leaves. This results in a smaller horizontal footprint and a larger top cola with little to no larf. I would just say to start and tweak your process. Maybe start with fewer plants until you've had a few runs under your belt. I cannot stress the genetic variable enough. The height range, for me, is 12" to 48". I'm targeting 18" to 28" so a lot of genetics simply cannot work for me. I'll try and update my journal soon. I've been having a fungus gnat issue from contaminated coco...wanted to get that resolved before resuming my journaling.

 

[SamWE19]

Height is mostly going to be dictated by genetics. I have not been tracking yields because I've been focusing on other things. If you're looking for a set it and forget it, just be aware that mixing genetics is not advised. If you are not able to elevate the shorter plants, there is good chance they can become overwhelmed by the taller neighbors. I have been removing all of the branches but I do not remove their corresponding fan leaves. This results in a smaller horizontal footprint and a larger top cola with little to no larf. I would just say to start and tweak your process. Maybe start with fewer plants until you've hn ad a few runs under your belt. I cannot stress the genetic variable enough. The height range, for me, is 12" to 48". I'm targeting 18" to 28" so a lot of genetics simply cannot work for me. I'll try and update my journal soon. I've been having a fungus gnat issue from contaminated coco...wanted to get that resolved before resuming my journaling.

I plan to use the same seeds but I guess different phenotypes have the same issue?

I've been growing for years I'm just trying to find the best way to increase my yield further when I am limited on space.

I had the thought that using space for mother's and clones was wasted space but maybe I need clones

 

[Opie1971]

I plan to use the same seeds but I guess different phenotypes have the same issue?

I've been growing for years I'm just trying to find the best way to increase my yield further when I am limited on space.

I had the thought that using space for mother's and clones was wasted space but maybe I need clones

I agree with HDS that genetics plays the main role in how big/tall your plants will get, but another thing that affects that is the size of the pots/containers that you’ll be using, and if your goal is 40cm’s or less I’d suggest 1gal pots.

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

I agree with HDS that genetics plays the main role in how big/tall your plants will get, but another thing that affects that is the size of the pots/containers that you’ll be using, and if your goal is 40cm’s or less I’d suggest 1gal pots.

Yes, this is most definitely true. I have a lot of sizes and the ones I like to use when I'm phenohunting or creating seeds is 0.6 gallon. This is big enough so I can see what the top cola can and will be. You may not want to go this small...but Opie is right, I would stay at 1 gallon or under.

Same seeds will still vary but should be fairly consistent, providing it's not an F1 in which one of the parents likes to get super tall. Stay away from lanky sativas, obviously.

 

[TwitchVee]

I'm amazed at this...considering the best way to achieve potency is supposedly to finish them quick, I wonder how this method compares to the full development of the plant?

 

[SamWE19]

I agree with HDS that genetics plays the main role in how big/tall your plants will get, but another thing that affects that is the size of the pots/containers that you’ll be using, and if your goal is 40cm’s or less I’d suggest 1gal pots.

I dont use pots I'm hydro havnt used a pot in 10 years

 

[SamWE19]

I dont use pots I'm hydro havnt used a pot in 10 years

I was hoping I could manage to get 30cm stems from seed but that isn't looking likely

 

[Hot Diggity Sog]

I was hoping I could manage to get 30cm stems from seed but that isn't looking likely

Unlikely, but not impossible.