The Art of The Auto

FullDuplex said:

Ok back to my homework results

Sunday morning we began the testing again
Typically lady D had been smoking and then eating
this was what was giving her the change in effect
So i had her eat her typical breakfast with Mangos
and then had a smoke together with ALF (white pheno).

Her results were the same, the effect was there
and she was recieveing her "brain Message"
She told me that the onset was the same
as smoking before eating.

Seems to me that the effect can happen either way
Both have the ability to open certain receptors
but it seems that one stimulates the receptors
while the other comes in as a second wave to heighten
the euphoric state.

Today we changed back to the colored pheno
and this is the one that does not carry the incense smell/pheno
After eating the same and then smoking she did not have the effect
So i believe the terp related to the Myrcene is the incense we are smelling

I have yet to try this on my self. I find it hard to fine a time that im not overlapping my doses Cause i can't smoke all day i do have an 8-5
So i am gonna give it a go on friday cause there are no other plans other than to come home and smoke.

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well I guess that makes sense... all other drugs are typically "synergistic" when combined... why wouldn't these be? cant wait to hear the effects of your experiment on urself...

J

napa23 said:

Hey peoples, it's been a while since i visited this thread. Seems like it's rolling right along, though . Don't know if this is allowed but i'd like to share my girl, just harvested today. She's tiny but hey, she's dank . Lemme know whatcha think. This is my second harvest, first one was Nirvana's auto Blue Mystic.
Strain: DNA Genetics's 60 Day Wonder
Lighting: 150W HPS
Soil: Sunshine Mix organic soil
Nutrients: Cal+Mag Pro and Bloom Blood by Greenleaf Nutrients
Pot: 16oz. party cup

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very nice dude!

ok gents, time for me to open the chamber and get some pics and make some checks... pics to follow in a while!

I agree, she is pretty looking napa. I know a guy that grew some 60 day but it surely didn't look like that.

Harry Bald Sack said:

I agree, she is pretty looking napa. I know a guy that grew some 60 day but it surely didn't look like that.

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Haha thanks guys.

FullDuplex said:

This is the only thing that i fear with the plastic,
shroomy what type of plastic was it do you recall?
If it was PVC i can understand why you got the funny smell/ taste
But i am hoping due to the fact that its food grade plastic
it wont give off a funny taste or smell. fingers crossed.

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From what i can remember it was a brand called plumbers pipe, it came in white and black not sure if it is around any more.

I am thinking of using a plastic soda bottle next time

shroomyshroom said:

From what i can remember it was a brand called plumbers pipe, it came in white and black not sure if it is around any more.

I am thinking of using a plastic soda bottle next time

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yeah, plumbers pipe and pvc (polyvinylchloride) in general are very "leechy" and imapart horrible smells/aroma nmot too mention toxic chemicals! ... best to use HDPE (High Density PolyEthylene)

photo 1: is 2 days ago... jut popping lr#2

photo 2: is the germ sets... 10 unkowns/throwins from marijuanaseeds.nl TBD both strain n sex
plus 8 Super Silver Haze clones from my mommys, plus 4 seeds referred to as "hijacker 419"
plus a few of each of poppies... danish flag, persian blue, and gianteum... in beta testing for next year

photo 3: lrt#2 tonight 11-16

photo 4: auto widow 11-16
photo 5: group photo everybody say cheese! 11-16
photo 6: low ryder#2 11-16

ok... cant resist posting this... its not an auto... its the "Kona-Mist" I previously mentioned, but my intent is to breed it with lr#2 and possibly also autoberry and autowidow. this strain is an excellent aroma/sativa up buzz... very cool working high and excellent thc and resin production. I had 2 of these ended up both female this year and got 1/4 lb off each dry. the plants were 14 feet tall by end of the season here in ny... started about march 20th finished about oct 23. mmmmmmhmmmm! its whats keepin me "rollin'" till january or so when my autos get erotic.

oh yeah, and after some trimming...

sweet thanx for the heads up John M

no problem...

a lil extra info for ya

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pvc#Health_and_safety pcv--- even worse than i thought upon reading wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdpe pretty chill... no chlorides

J

FullDuplex said:

Im not sure about this. This is something that i never really thought about or tried. i know that certain fish like certain types of water temps and pH. I used to raise Piranha's and they like warm, acidic water. If i remember correctly it needed to be in the 80-90 range, this to me would scream warning due to pathogen activity.

You said that your water is between 70-80 and the pH is in the 6's. I know fish dont like chlorine so i know your free of that and the pH is good but i am still worried about the heat and pathogen levels. I know that you said it is filtered as well as o2 fed but you have to remember that the fish are using that o2 to live.

So there has to be some sort of break down on the amount of o2 actually left in the water when it is drawn out. You would think that the levels of co2 would be higher because of that. I know that c02 is used in growing but i am not sure of what the effects of in the water are.......yet, working on this one





Thanks my friend!

I really enjoy having my brain picked and love to share the knowledge so the more questions asked in here the better for me anyway. Im like Mossy though i hope i dont talk to much in here

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I used to keep 7 tanks going almost exclusively with central and south american cichlids. many come from the same waters as piranhas and i have kept them in temps down to 69f, usually more around 75f though. most cichlids are tough as nails and you can't kill them if you tried. that goes for african or ca/sa varieties. Salvini are good for smaller tanks (lots of color) or if you just wanted something cheap you can get convicts for a few bucks each. If you want to keep the co2 sown you could add some moss or other quick growing plants, you should still have plenty of nutes left and all the good bacteria left.

hmmm... nice... good info.... thank you ninja... i'm acually looking for even higher temps... high as i can go without having to go crazy on ph adjusts or intensive care... basically looking for an excuse for having a large cooling tank in my house... keep house at about 80 degrees this time of year (co2 boost temps in grow chamber) so im expecting with liquid cooling even in a 100 gallon tank i'd be running in the 90s plus... maybe 100.

So what mediums and nutes are ppl using with the autos they growing

I am currently going back to %100 coco and canna coco A + B

but am doing my seed run in potting mix with cow manure, chicken manure and dynamic lifter pellets

so lets see what everyone is using

shroomyshroom said:

So what mediums and nutes are ppl using with the autos they growing

I am currently going back to %100 coco and canna coco A + B

but am doing my seed run in potting mix with cow manure, chicken manure and dynamic lifter pellets

so lets see what everyone is using

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Well I'm runnin Fox farm Ocean Forest Soil and since I'm 4 days out from germy germy I've only added minute levels (1/2 tsp per gallon and then only maybe 4 oz each, topped off with water) but my grow food will be fox farm grow big (soil) and problly also about that time start adding a hair of bat guano (high phosphorus). finally, I'll finish with fox farm big bloom and tiger bloom.

currently running well water (slightly sulfur water - potentially good pathogen blocker?)
ph of water typically tests at 6.0
400 MH (to be switche HPS for last 5 weeks) galaxy with yieldmaster reflector
thermostatically controlled ventilation
Co2 enriched via ventless Propane Heater in my place
(2) 26 Watt Reptisun UVB CFL supplemental lights (UVB/A)
humidity is usally around 60-80 % in here.. thanks to Popane heat (typically 70%)
1 or 1.25 gallon pots (not sure... about 9 in dia and 12 inch tall)
(1) 8" circ fan... to be upgraded to 2 upon shipment arrival

this closet was the washer/dryer closet.... has water and drain and power hookups built right in... even have a 25' garden hose with switchable nozzle for watering/misting and extended (via pvc) the drain for the washer so I can flush out the hose easily right into the drain prior to use and eventually will add on a small "sink" for washing out containers etc.

thats that for now i guess
J

John Mondello said:

hmmm... nice... good info.... thank you ninja... i'm acually looking for even higher temps... high as i can go without having to go crazy on ph adjusts or intensive care... basically looking for an excuse for having a large cooling tank in my house... keep house at about 80 degrees this time of year (co2 boost temps in grow chamber) so im expecting with liquid cooling even in a 100 gallon tank i'd be running in the 90s plus... maybe 100.

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i've had tanks up to 95f for short periods but generally went for the mid 70s because of utility bills, evaporation, and the cooler temps helps lower aggression (most cichlids are pretty aggressive). also the higher temps lowers the amount of oxygen water can hold. as long as it is a lightly stocked tank you could probably get by pretty well in the lower 90s, higher than that i'm not sure about. i know when they get ich you can crank up the temps to kill the parasites. i would think they could take it though long term as mine didn't seem to notice. i've seen cichlids survive in some very poor conditions. i got a tank with a red devil and jag cichlid from a guy and it had been unplugged without water changes for 4 months in his garage, he also claimed he only fed them every couple of weeks. it was pretty bad but i got them home cleaned up every thing and they perked right up.

no shit... that sounds pretty workable for my idea.. I'm going to build liquid cooled hoods for all my lighting and ballasts to carry away the excess heat instead of requiring venting so often (mostly to conserve heat for winter) 90 cfm fan (5568 cu ft living space) clears my whole space in just about an hour...

thanks for all the extensive fish info... they're resilient little bastards, huh?


just did a lil google / wiki... didn't realize tilapia were in this category... now I'm onto something.. grow my own protein-based foods too!

thanks man!

http://www.aquaponicsusa.com/Blog/Entries/2008/12/7_Aquaponics_USA_Water.html

for those interested in a really nice explanation of pH

J

shroomyshroom said:

So what mediums and nutes are ppl using with the autos they growing

I am currently going back to %100 coco and canna coco A + B

but am doing my seed run in potting mix with cow manure, chicken manure and dynamic lifter pellets

so lets see what everyone is using

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Most of my stuff is natural and home brewed. Both soil and nutes are all hand mixed and made by me.

Over the last year or so i have finally got my soil and teas down to a science. I can run a plant in the soil from start to finish and only use water to feed them, then if i want a kick i can add the teas.

My Soil:
Cow Manure/compost (as base)
Peat Moss
Blood Meal
Bone Meal
Epsom Salt
Seaweed Kelp (Liquid)
Sterile Perlite (lots of this stuff)
Powered Baby cereal (trace minerals ie copper, zinc, boron, and a few others)
of course the left over plant material that goes back in the bin after harvest.

Once i mix the soil ill leave it for about 4to5 days and then add in the left over trimmings. This allows the soil to "bake" so to speak allowing the microbes to get active to break down the plat material. I can throw a plant in the bin after harvest and the remains are gone in 2 days, got lots of micro activity going on in there.

My Teas are close to the same ingredients as the soil. the only difference is i modify the tea to the time of the plant. If i am in veg stage ill up the N content on the brewing of the tea. If im in flower the phosphorous gets a boost. It all comes back to what the plant needs/wants at the time.

If there is interest in my teas PM me and let me know.