The Art of The Auto

All this information is to much for 1 thread, we need a auto forum!!!

@ mossy

Im really excited about growing all the crosses I did over the summer, they will definetly be a main feature of my 2011 greenhouse/outdoor grow, I think I pretty much crossed everything with everything so have plenty to work with. I got a big pile of beans that dropped from buds while drying so I dont know what they are (apart from that they are a auto crosses)....... im sure it would make a good prize for a auto competition if thats allowed?

FullD...she's on the couch..and she has assumed The Brace Position...

You hold her tail out the way..an I'll get the gloves and the test-tube..



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Im really excited about growing all the crosses I did over the summer,

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I'm excited for you...

Many seeds though I have..I never get over the thrill of looking at them and thinking..
this may hold the Best girl that has ever been out..ever..
Little Treasure Chests.

Endorium..keep your light on 24 m8..

I Think I have a couple of hours this afternoon for a yap...
I'm dashing through my chores...
so..I'll be Back..
shortly...

mossy can i please get some pics of O guns and Alf#3 please or anyone that has grown these out

I dropped the Alf#3 to night so excited and will be dropping a shit lot more of yours mossy this week

Will be doing 1 strain a week

shroomyshroom said:

mossy can i please get some pics of O guns and Alf#3 please or anyone that has grown these out

I dropped the Alf#3 to night so excited and will be dropping a shit lot more of yours mossy this week

Will be doing 1 strain a week

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Here are my ALF#3's













First one was white and second had color. Both were great smoke.

Cant wait to see all the germs you got going. Ill be watching close thats for sure. I too will be starting a mass germ soon. right now i have 3 Bad Betty and 3 ICU in the ground. two of the ICU have showed their heads this morning just waiting on the rest

clay pot at the front...right at the front..



My favourite overhead balance..sati leaf..indy bud cover..
she was a self-seed into the pot from the mom..and she is trying to Dominate a 40 ltr pot...
AF's....Hearts like Little Lions..



More blue/grey than JEM...



Colour of stormy skies..Oguns Thunder.

mossys said:

FullD...she's on the couch..and she has assumed The Brace Position...

You hold her tail out the way..an I'll get the gloves and the test-tube..

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Oh wow LOL

I about fell out of the chair with this one, was not expecting that ha ha
but it does seem that she has assumed the position rather well
are you sure you never tested it before ?

this may hold the Best girl that has ever been out..ever..
Little Treasure Chests.

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I cant decide weather there little treasure chests or little versions of Pandora's box..

I about fell out of the chair with this one, was not expecting that ha ha

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I was cracked up taking it...

she does it every morning..spying on cats...

I'm gonna have to go back 'til I find where we were in the homework..
every morning the thread has jumped 4 pages...

Before I do...remember where I told you to View the Book for free...
go read page 23-27..
I Think reading it..I know where the Incense is gonna come from...

One thing that smacked me this morning...
coz I couldn't get a mango yet..
I thought..I know..I'll test for the limonella against lemon..
I've Always got them in the house..coz I'm addicted to lemon..damn..
That could be TOO much of a co-incidence..
(you can hear the Outer Limits music..can't you..it's kinda spooky......)

Heres my Road Runner freebie from Attitude

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Hotsauce..I Love a bit of Ginger....

Endorium..the easiest way to trim is...
take your girl out and lean over her..the position your lamp is..
then trim the leave that are OVERHANGING/SHADOWING the bud..
slowly does it m8..
and she is looking Lovely..

Ditto SmokeyDeHerbs...Nice overhead there...she's starting to show her Promise m8...

mossys said:

I was cracked up taking it...

she does it every morning..spying on cats...

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Ahh i see and i bet you did get a good laugh out of it thinking the whole time about the caption to add to it.

every morning the thread has jumped 4 pages...

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I know i cant believe it. There are a few things back through there
i have to go back reference from time to time too cause if the rapid growth
funny how the thread is growing like the plants do ....

Before I do...remember where I told you to View the Book for free...
go read page 23-27..

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Ahh nice a little something more to do this morning. have a slow day here so far so i could use a little reading time.

I've Always got them in the house..coz I'm addicted to lemon..damn..
That could be TOO much of a co-incidence..
(you can hear the Outer Limits music..can't you..it's kinda spooky......)

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I can.....
And i think that your co-incidence is more than just that
i think it comes back to the receptors.....

Endorium said:

Thanks fullduplex for the comments and help with pruning. As you can see from these pictures I have pruned the Bottom of the plant and everything is still growing.
Have left the top of the plant alone. What should I be trimming of the top?
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Nice job on the trim up she looks good, and i have to agree with what Mossy said. Lean over her and take a look that way you can see the best places to remove a fan.
as before little bits at a time i think she is going to reward you well job well done

She hasnt been complaining to much as she has been getting to smoke as much as she wants when she wants. Plus its easing the pain and thats all that really matters in the end to her. So shes happy with the treatment and were happy with her feed back it all kinda works out in the end

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Ha ha..easing the pain IS all that matters.
If you do that..everything else falls into place...you start to feel Normal again.

I fell into the trap of using my herbal meds up to a level..where I was still in pain..
But..I could bear it..

Chyna said..are you stupid..UP your herbal meds..and he was right.
You get SO used to pain..you forget what it is to be without.
But..
you do need a Break from it..

Persistant Pain wears your Soul out.

You are gonna need that extra space we talked about...for extra meds.

I plan on it. I think that this is the bodily "sign" that it is taking effect on the body. Most common pain killers in pill form have a slight euphoric state or narc high when taken. i think that were seeing the same things here only at a much more natural level.

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Stopping pain is the biggest high you can get.
I know the first time my nerve block worked..
I got 6 morning when I woke up without pain..and I was absolutely Euphoric.
I felt as if I was Floating..without the pain to weigh me down.

The doctors at the pain clinic Look for That kind of reaction..then they know it has worked.

I know i cant believe it. There are a few things back through there
i have to go back reference from time to time too cause if the rapid growth
funny how the thread is growing like the plants do ....

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I'm impressed..
a laid back thread attracts SO much great info..
everybody feels free to post.

I am wondering what is so artistic about growing autos?

mossys said:

Ha ha..easing the pain IS all that matters.
If you do that..everything else falls into place...you start to feel Normal again.

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Agreed, when i can get the oral pain to stop i am golden, other wise im rather pissy. I dont mean to be but it hurts to talk, eat, drink and sometimes it keeps me awake. Once i get it under control i am as happy a a two petered pup, but im not fun to deal with sometimes if the pain is there. One thing that i can say is that my pain threshold is unreal due to the amount of pain ive put up with.

You are gonna need that extra space we talked about...for extra meds.

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Already under construction We decided we needed to get a move on things

The doctors at the pain clinic Look for That kind of reaction..then they know it has worked.

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makes sense, it lets them know that the treatment worked out.

when i can get the oral pain to stop i am golden

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One of the terps..b-caryophyllene does tooth-ache..
But..
it Can block calcium potassium..

I Think the incense May be in the linalool band because they say the smell is so strong it can be detected by humans at only 1 part per million..
and you know I can even smell a good incense in the growing medium..
so I'm thinking the strength of smell may be coming in there.

but im not fun to deal with sometimes if the pain is there

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Yup..it is the only time I get snappy as well.
But..
we are used to it..so we get over it.

One thing that i can say is that my pain threshold is unreal due to the amount of pain ive put up with.

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Me too m8..
I always thought that doctors could cure pain..
how naive I was.

Ahh nice a little something more to do this morning. have a slow day here so far so i could use a little reading time.

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There is so much info in there that I think it will be the Best 20 mins reading you have ever done...

Is it you or Iron Lungs that grows the chillies..

Just thinking chillies are a dilator too..if they dilate your veins before you smoke..
it stands to reason that the Meds are gonna go in faster..and maybe spread further.

BTW..I Think you need to give me macro photo training..
those tric close-ups are giving me hunger pains.

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Man that's trippy. Mine doesn't look anything like that. It was also an attitude freebie. I wonder if it is even the same genes. View attachment 1272556

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Different Phenom maby?

mossys said:

One of the terps identified does tooth-ache..and bone pain..I think..
But..
I thought one high in that might do LadyD and you..

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And thats my biggest goal. As weve talked about before
i will be using her nose to pick her strain, but
as she does this i too will be taking a closer look at it after she makes her selection
I as well will smell it and see what it does for me, then under the scope it will go
to look at terps, tric style, shape as well as size. Then maybe i can find a mix that will do us both

unless you already have something in mind.

how naive I was.

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If it makes you feel any better you are not the only one,
there just the middle man you have to see to ease it
i like the fact that i am working on removing him all together

Is it you or Iron Lungs that grows the chillies..

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Me and i think that he does too, not sure but i LOVE them. I make sauces, and powders, as well as pickle them too. GOOD stuff.

Ill have to give this a whirl with the pickled habinaros i have right now, they dilate well so well see if there is a synergy effect here.

BTW..I Think you need to give me macro photo training..
those tric close-ups are giving me hunger pains.

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Id be happy to my friend i love to take photos, and like my canna knowledge, i love to share it out. But i think a lot of it comes from the camera too.

EDIT: did you get my question about seed production?

Me and i think that he does too, not sure but i LOVE them. I make sauces, and powders, as well as pickle them too. GOOD stuff

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hmmmmmm...and if I'm self medicating with lemons..what do you think you are doing....?

You are Raising your circulation with chilli...

you Love them because You are self-medicating with them..
and..
you are self-medicating the disease of circulation that I keep coming back to..

I tried both auto and photo.... Im not an expert grower.. im gonna be totally honest and say i was lazy and at that time... I grew 60 day wonder and AK47 x Low ryder x Easy ryder... I got 3 1/4 oz from the 6 60day Wonder & 2 OZ from the 3 Low ryder cross..... And i fucked up big time,I was guilty with the scissors (chopped a fuck load of nute burn) I was late watering the plants so many times & i didn't ph.... And too top it all off i grew the autos in the same tent as the photos.. so towards the end of the flowering cycle for the autos i had to flip to 12/12... Now the damage on the photo side was even worse my Rock Lock died- Chronic Died- Lemon Skunk tasted like poison- and my 5 big buddha bubble cheese had to be chopped early or they would have suffered the same fate.. I obviously dont grow like anymore but that did show me a few things 1st even with all that stress my autos finished in time and tasted great!!! (i only used organic products) 2nd NEVER MIX AUTOS & PHOTOS 3rd Stay away from Photo plants unless u know what ur doing.. I only grow 60 day wonder now in my last grow i got 7oz from 6plants.. so im getting there i used warm filtered water( around 18c), ph to 6.5, i keep my tent clean & i water and feed on time.. I think growing auto flower plants is easy but it takes care and attention to get real results out of them.. because they grow so fast its very easy to see your hard work paying off.. mind u its not really hard but when ur fucking stoned things like waiting for the water to past through the filter and measuring out the ferts seem like the longest shit in the world.. all it really takes is 15mins everyday inspecting the bud and 1hr on feeding day doing things correctly.. then 2months later ur fucking laughing... Say goodbye to ur dealer and say hello @ the hydrophonics shop

I'm impressed..
a laid back thread attracts SO much great info..
everybody feels free to post.

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Me too my friend me too, i never saw it taking off like this
it has to be the vibe, i mean we have had a few trolls as well as a few nay sayers
but i think your right it comes back to the bud they smoke/grow
I get tickled when someone comes in here and tries to start something
we just keep moving along

you Love them because You are self-medicating with them..
and..
you are self-medicating the disease of circulation that I keep coming back to..

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Hmm never thought of it this way. I know that i NEVER get a cold either
seems that it keeps the immune system rockin' and its always good to clear a runny nose
I know my circulation issues are there as i can have my legs propped up for about 3 min and they start to fall asleep.

ok so u probably answered this already but i didnt feel liek reading through all 69 pages of blog ;/...
what ligth did you grow your purple jem under? what is your recomendation for 4 auots in a grow area of about 24" x 18"?

loudpac said:

ok so u probably answered this already but i didnt feel liek reading through all 69 pages of blog ;/...
what ligth did you grow your purple jem under? what is your recomendation for 4 auots in a grow area of about 24" x 18"?

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its all good i understand there is a ton of info here and a lot of reading to do.

I grew my first PJ as well as all my other girls under a 250watt MH/HPS.
My room is 3'x3'x5
I can grow six in there under the 250 and they all will do great.
I can keep my temps at about 75-77 all the time but i am running a 435CFM fan to keep it cool

I think that you could get a 250hps in that area and get fantastic results, but you are gonna need to cool it in that smaller area
you can get the light that i use here and at a great price.
250 HPS

If you dont want to go HPS in that area the high powered CFL's will do good and run a little cooler but the buds wont be as dense as the HPS.

Let us know what you decide to do. Glad to have you here in the thread.