trayvan martin
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londonfog
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Come on NoDrama don't do this !!!!!
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
How in the name of Godfrey can those be cleared as "justifiable"? I guess I just don't get it. cn
UncleBuck
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more people die from other stuff so it's pointless to look at this.
then we transition into "well, murder laws don't even prevent murder so why have them?"
nodrama logic.
johny112
Active Member
Thats completely unrelated. Thats just a health thing this is killing someone and saying oh i was just protecting myself when they werent.
Yeah cuz getting knifed during a mugging in a park or at the ATM is LOTS OF FUN!! You don't get out much do you?
No, actually I was making fun of Carne for showing this miniscule statistic he did , thinking it showed some kind of significance. 33 people isn't very many, how many soldiers died last year in Combat? How many committed suicide?
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
exactly, let's deflect to other stuff so we don't have to focus on the people dead due to this bad law.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I don't see how a law like that can shift the definition of "justifiable". That is the part that is giving me a headache. cn
Blaze Master
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i'm sure you'd think it was too many if one of those 33 were a member of your family.
UncleBuck
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it doesn't change the definition much, but in my opinion it is a nudge in the wrong direction.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I am of two minds about this. On the one hand I prefer seeing the bounds of "justifiable" homicide being kept fairly strict. After all, that is about human lives being taken. Otoh I see a need to provide a dissenting voice to those who'd blame guns andor gun laws in this instance. There has been a strong media message in this nation for as long as i can remember ... that guns are bad. I lament that.
Carne's stats shock me. I would not have thought that a stand-your-ground law, administered with even minimal decency, would lead to a near-trebling of justifiables. That makes me wonder if the ascription of justifiability is somehow malfunctioning. cn
londonfog
Well-Known Member
For the record I'm CCW legal. I only carry when I'm carrying large cash or change on the way to the bank. I don't carry just to carry. I don't Don myself Captain of the neighborhood watch and follow people around and then kill them..which this law seemingly allows. hmmmm ok I will say that the law needs to be changed to say If you are confronted and have zero means of an exit...Fair enough ??
I don't think Trevan died becasue of that law, I think he died because he got shot in the chest.
BTW what difference does it make that he was laying face down? He got shot in the chest, not the back.
Oh yeah? What sidearm do you carry?
Every single member of my family is going to die, EVERY SINGLE ONE!!!