True Beginner / Poor Man's Grow

Gastanker said:

Wait another half a week at least before transplant. I generally flip the plants over and remove the cup to check root progress. Once all the soil stays together and the roots are quite visible transplant into presoaked medium. (get the new soil really wet the day or two before you transplant so it has some time to dry out a bit)

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Sounds like a plan, thanks man!

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Let's see this grow!

Still playing the waiting game I've decided not to water the 2 bigger plants anymore because I'd like for them to drink up whenever I transplant. I'm hoping this technique will give them a smaller chance of enduring shock. I'm probably going to get the pots prepped tomorrow that way by Friday I can make the switch. I was thinking somewhere around Monday I would throw them into 12/12 since I don't want them getting real tall. I've been reading up on RandyRocket and he had some incredible success with Solo-cup grows. I'm hoping I can do the same, so from now on untill I get a new cab I will be throwing all of my seedlings straight into 12/12. I only have 3 bigger pots so I more than likely will only be transplanting 3 out of the solo-cups.

Edit: For clarification...After the switch to 12/12 is when I will no longer be veg-ing


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So I was spending some quality time with the garden earlier and thought to myself, "This is a trial run right? why not test out a plant or 2 more?" I already have a few seeds germinating and I already have too many for my lights so I figured why not see what this strain can do? So I decided to make some MG Food for one of the plants that was due for watering. Have no fear, this is one of the plants that still hasn't completely opened up, and more than likely would have been a trasher anyway. I diluted the MG to 1/8th of the sugguested dose and watered it like normal. Tomorrow we'll get to see if they can handle some nutes yet. Also, with the 2 plants that are responding great to the LST I decided to up their game a little and LST them a tad bit more (My goal is to crop circle these without actually tying them to the cup itself)

Another thing, I have an air pump that I was going to use for some bubbleponics but since we don't have any decent liquid nutes around this part of town I decided to hold off on the dro experience. Anyway, I've set that up in a couple of water bottles I plan on using for the next water.

That's about all I have for the night, I'll give you guys another update tomorrow afternoon / night sometime.

Waddup??? The 2 LST plants that I did more training on are looking great. The 3rd one that was taking forever to respond is actually starting to curve up to the light now. I can't really tell if the MG is hurting the 2 plants that I watered last night, but so far it seems to be ok. Later on I'll get some more pictures up for those of you who are interested.

I like that you're experimenting with the 'extra' seeds. It will be good to know just how far you can push them. I'm surprised you have started with the lst already-- I would usually wait until I had a couple of pairs of true leaves. I'll be interested to know how it works out for you.

Nitegazer said:

I like that you're experimenting with the 'extra' seeds. It will be good to know just how far you can push them. I'm surprised you have started with the lst already-- I would usually wait until I had a couple of pairs of true leaves. I'll be interested to know how it works out for you.

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Yeah dude, every one I see waits on the LST, guess we'll find out why everyone waits, or if everyone has been misled so far.

Everything's going pretty good right now...Most of the plants that were stunted from overwatering are picking back up now. The 2 big plants have grown so much since yesterday. Update on the MG plants, I'm pretty sure the nutes have effected them in a bad way. They seem to be drying out and yellowing. I'm not too sure if this is caused from the Nutes or if it's because they were already "retarded." Anyway, I'm just gonna see if I can quit watering them and bring them back, or if they're just gonna die. I got some more seeds from a friend out of some reggie he bought today...excited to get a few different strains gowing. LST guys are doing great, and starting to fatten up quite a bit since yesterday. I was a bit lazy and didn't take a whole bunch of pictures, but I'm sure you probably won't be missing out.

One of the plants that got fed last night is in the top left cup of picture #1

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Id bet the yellowing is cause they need more N.
At this stage they are touchy so I use 1/4 to 1/2 strenght MG all purpose (1/4 -1/2 teaspoon per gal) an foiliar feed it 2 times a day, and water em with it once or twice a week.

Lookin good grower.

SCARHOLE said:

Id bet the yellowing is cause they need more N.
At this stage they are touchy so I use 1/4 to 1/2 strenght MG all purpose (1/4 -1/2 teaspoon per gal) an foiliar feed it 2 times a day, and water em with it once or twice a week.

Lookin good grower.

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I thought the same thing, but I know a couple of them have N deficiency just because I watered them too much to begin with. The big one that's bright green almost yellow is Healthy looking and feeling to me. The leaves are nice and moist and soft, I think it may just be the look of that strain or phenotype.




Update:
Day 10 of Veg. (3-10-11)
The plants that were fed MG are starting to show a little nute burn, but I'm pretty confident that within 2-3 days they'll shake back and be ok. The 2 plants from outside are looking great, and are already starting to show signs of growth. The little one's who were stunted from overwatering are growing like crazy...they've almost doubled in size already. I transplanted the 2 big plants into some 4" pots (I thought they were bigger, but I was wrong.) I found out that I really have no idea how to transplant Lol so these 2 are more than likely going to be effected by the move, hopefully they toughen up and fight through the struggle. As soon as these big plants start showing a little more growth and I know the transplant went well I'm going to throw the plants in 12/12. That's it for now, I'll give you guys a picture report some time tomorrow afternoon/night.

Laterz!

Psychild said:

Update:
Day 10 of Veg. (3-10-11)
The plants that were fed MG are starting to show a little nute burn, but I'm pretty confident that within 2-3 days they'll shake back and be ok. The 2 plants from outside are looking great, and are already starting to show signs of growth. The little one's who were stunted from overwatering are growing like crazy...they've almost doubled in size already. I transplanted the 2 big plants into some 4" pots (I thought they were bigger, but I was wrong.) I found out that I really have no idea how to transplant Lol so these 2 are more than likely going to be effected by the move, hopefully they toughen up and fight through the struggle. As soon as these big plants start showing a little more growth and I know the transplant went well I'm going to throw the plants in 12/12. That's it for now, I'll give you guys a picture report some time tomorrow afternoon/night.

Laterz!

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You have those plants on a tight schedule, lol! Are you planning to throw them into 12/12 at less than 3 weeks? Most folks do not go into flower until sex shows, which is about a month after sprouting. If you flower too early, the plant will just continue to veg under 12 hours of light and grow more slowly.

Bit irrelevant to this thread but do you like psytrance? I just saw your name and thought you might do?

Nitegazer said:

You have those plants on a tight schedule, lol! Are you planning to throw them into 12/12 at less than 3 weeks? Most folks do not go into flower until sex shows, which is about a month after sprouting. If you flower too early, the plant will just continue to veg under 12 hours of light and grow more slowly.

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Well, temperatures are starting to become a problem at night since this is my room mates closet and we have to shut the doors. During the day with the doors cracked, about 6 inches, the temp normally sits around 82-85. I've seen a fairly decent amount of 12/12 grows yield anywhere from 7-28 grams a plant from a solo-cup. My whole goal really is to have these plants reach somewhere around 24-40 inches, I figured flipping the lights now would more than likely help me reach this goal. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

DeweY said:

Bit irrelevant to this thread but do you like psytrance? I just saw your name and thought you might do?

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Nope, have no idea what that is sorry.

So I finally found a job and started working today. After a 9 hour shift, I came home and checked up on the plants....these things have gotten rediculously bigger since last night, and way bigger than the last time you guys have seen them. The 2 old plants seem to be doing just fine with their transfers, and the dark green one was almost unrecognizable from yesterday. I gotta work tomorrow though so I'm about to throw some pictures up here for you guys and crash. Laterz!

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wow man nice! my gf and i are starting our first grow, have some pics up already, someone said that we need to lower our lights because we stretched our mystery :/ https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/415939-first-indoor-grow.html

i have 6 26w bulbs set up the same way for a single auto flower my bulbs were getting to 140+ they need a fan on them cuz there supose to be up right mine are now running 70-75 with a small 6inch fan your bulbs should be worm to the touch not hot sry only read begining of post so dont know if you have done any thing to cool them or not

Psychild said:

Well, temperatures are starting to become a problem at night since this is my room mates closet and we have to shut the doors. During the day with the doors cracked, about 6 inches, the temp normally sits around 82-85. I've seen a fairly decent amount of 12/12 grows yield anywhere from 7-28 grams a plant from a solo-cup. My whole goal really is to have these plants reach somewhere around 24-40 inches, I figured flipping the lights now would more than likely help me reach this goal. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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I'm not sure what your yields will be by starting the plants on 12/12 so early-- 7 grams should be fairly easy to achieve. I would tend to think that the plant has to develop its sex before it will go into flower, and because of that, anything less than 18 hours a day of light would just waste potential yield. However, in support of your efforts, I dug up the following thread

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/175581-12-12-seed-club-show.html

I'm always willing to learn something new...

Me Gusta said:

Lookin good man!

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Thanks man!

Cory&Sam said:

wow man nice! my gf and i are starting our first grow, have some pics up already, someone said that we need to lower our lights because we stretched our mystery :/ https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/415939-first-indoor-grow.html

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Definitely man, you want your plants to stay more bushy if possible because if not the weak thin branches won't be able to support those buds once it starts flowering. Keep with it man! All the plants that I had stretch pretty tall I started some Low Stress Training on them to shorten them up some. You should look into it!

Joe383 said:

i have 6 26w bulbs set up the same way for a single auto flower my bulbs were getting to 140+ they need a fan on them cuz there supose to be up right mine are now running 70-75 with a small 6inch fan your bulbs should be worm to the touch not hot sry only read begining of post so dont know if you have done any thing to cool them or not

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You know I never actually tried cooling the lights themselves, I have a small 6 incher in there now that was being used for plants. It's not really doing much so I'll have to switch that to light purposes, thanks for the suggestion!

Nitegazer said:

I'm not sure what your yields will be by starting the plants on 12/12 so early-- 7 grams should be fairly easy to achieve. I would tend to think that the plant has to develop its sex before it will go into flower, and because of that, anything less than 18 hours a day of light would just waste potential yield. However, in support of your efforts, I dug up the following thread

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/175581-12-12-seed-club-show.html

I'm always willing to learn something new...

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To be honest with you if I make 7 grams off of one solo cup I'm happy.....I can get up to 75 cups atleast in that closet....That's a harvest of more than 2lbs, I want to have a cycle of 4 plants a week to achieve 1-3 ounces. It seems to me like throwing it into 12/12 sooner makes it sex faster (Although I know it isn't imediate.) Anyway, this is a test run, so I figured why not? (Thanks for the link, that's where I started this idea from Lol)

What's up everybody? A lot has happened in the past couple of days, since my last update. The plants have grown Way bigger than they were before, and I felt as if it was time to switch the plants into 12/12. (The deciding factor to me was most of my bigger plant's stems started to turn green and get thick. It seems to me that they are now out of the most critical part of veging, the most structural part of growing.) They seemed to like that alot. Since last night they grew much bigger than what they were. I FIMmed one of the plants I transplanted (the small thinner light green one) It's either going to have 3 tops or 4 Check out the pictures! Nutes will start soon....oh yeah, and I have a semi DWC plant going unintentionally on my first grow, holla!


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What's happening? Not a whole lot is going on...they have grown a tad bit, but nothing worth getting excited over. Last night the closet temperature dropped while the lights were out, and put a couple of the smaller plants into shock. Most of the bigger plants were good, but still showed some dark coloring and leaf wilting. Tonight is going to be another cold night, but tomorrow should be warming up, and we should be good for a while. They're starting to show growths in between nodes and are starting to grow bushier I saw another root poking out of a hole in the cup which I take as good news...Hopefully tomorrow or the next day me and my room mate will be able to run to wal-mart and grab a solid $40 worth of lights to help out with some extra plants. I want to germinate some more and plant around 50 more on a cycle. Anyway, that's about it for the night...I'll post another update tomorrow probably with pictures.

Thats alota ladys to pimp i mean take'n care of!! U must be morman?! Bad joke!lmao (no offense any1!)