Trump/Russia v. Clinton/DNC

ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
it was a 55-45 caucus (undemocratic) and the delegates split evenly, 7-7 between the two.

in washington state, hillary won 56-44 among 800,000+ voters and walked away with a net loss of 47 delegates.

explain that, then cry some more about how you care about "the will of the people".
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Wyoming went for Clinton 11-7. Superdelegates, remember?

I'm 'crying' about wanting to ensure that the will of the people is respected in our Democracy?

Do you even listen to yourself?

You shoot from the lip as badly as the Chump himself.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
Wyoming went for Clinton 11-7. Superdelegates, remember?
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wyoming got 14 pledged delegtes. the vote was 55-45 and they split the assigned delegates.

maybe if bernie was more popular, like you claim he is, then he would ave gotten the superdelegates. but the superdelegates followed the will of the people, who chose hillary by 4 million overall.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
wyoming got 14 pledged delegtes. the vote was 55-45 and they split the assigned delegates.

maybe if bernie was more popular, like you claim he is, then he would ave gotten the superdelegates. but the superdelegates followed the will of the people, who chose hillary by 4 million overall.
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Nice misdirection. The fact remains that not only was Wyoming's final delegate count not representative of the vote but that it was far from alone in that regard.

I'm gonna guess that our oligarchical plutocracy isn't working out so well for you. I notice you're not out driving your Ferrari, either.

Yet here you are, still displaying Stockholm Syndrome and defending the very party that disenfranchised you and millions of other Americans-citizens.

Might be why the DNC just had its worst fundraising October in 15 years... The rest of us are no longer fooled.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
Nice misdirection. The fact remains that not only was Wyoming's final delegate count not representative of the vote but that it was far from alone in that regard.

I'm gonna guess that our oligarchical plutocracy isn't working out so well for you. I notice you're not out driving your Ferrari, either.

Yet here you are, still displaying Stockholm Syndrome and defending the very party that disenfranchised you and millions of other Americans-citizens.

Might be why the DNC just had its worst fundraising October in 15 years... The rest of us are no longer fooled.
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the superdelegates followed the will of the people who voted for hillary by over 4 million votes.

wyoming had a 55-45 split in their undemocratic caucus and so they split the delegates, 7-7.

it's great that you want to talk about this, but concerning that you are desperately trying to avoid the fact that hillary won washington state by a greater margin and walked away with a 47 delegate net loss to bernie, completely eviscerating the will of the people there.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
the superdelegates followed the will of the people who voted for hillary by over 4 million votes.

wyoming had a 55-45 split in their undemocratic caucus and so they split the delegates, 7-7.

it's great that you want to talk about this, but concerning that you are desperately trying to avoid the fact that hillary won washington state by a greater margin and walked away with a 47 delegate net loss to bernie, completely eviscerating the will of the people there.
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The superdelegates we pledged long before nearly every race across the entire country in a blatant attempt to show the futility of voting for anyone but Clinton.

That doesn't sound like the will of the people to me.

Still here and not driving your Ferrari, I see.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
The superdelegates we pledged long before nearly every race across the entire country in a blatant attempt to show the futility of voting for anyone but Clinton.

That doesn't sound like the will of the people to me.

Still here and not driving your Ferrari, I see.
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were those the same superdelegates which bernie constantly talked about flipping in order to win despite having 4 million less votes because he does not care about the will of the people?
 
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schuylaar

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ttystikk said:
I don't think he's any less of a patriot or even wrong for being concerned about foreign influences in American politics.

There's a bigger picture to consider;
  • Is it better or acceptable that our democracy is threatened by internal corruption as opposed to the influences of potentially hostile foreign powers?
  • Can we learn lessons about the American habit of meddling in foreign elections- including those of Russia?
  • What does fairness in our electoral process look like?
  • How can we as the citizens of this nation- the ultimate authority, according to our ideological beliefs- help our government better represent the needs of all of us?
Maybe we need less shaming and more compassion for the concerns underlying the views expressed.
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i think you missed the point but i won't shame you for it:wink:
 
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UncleBuck

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i hope berniebots get hooked on elizabeth warren, who was a republican back when hillary clinton was advocating for universal healthcare, to completely expose their hypocrisy and naivete.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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captainmorgan said:
Who the fuck said I was for Joe Biden. Maybe we should stop electing old white men that have been completely corrupted by a long political career.
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Sure! Let's do ourselves a favor by not merely replacing them with young white men who are eager to benefit from a long, corrupt political career. This means changing the system, hence my focus on issues more than party.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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ttystikk said:
Sure! Let's do ourselves a favor by not merely replacing them with young white men who are eager to benefit from a long, corrupt political career. This means changing the system, hence my focus on issues more than party.
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Bernie used his position as Senator to help his wife get fraudulent bank loans for the college she collapsed.

If that's not corruption then what is...?
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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The two losers are strongly in denial.

Bernie is being investigated for his role in getting fraudulent loans for his wife and they both had the same fundraising agreement with the DNC.

Facts: True whether you like them or not.
 
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