Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

Uncle Ben said:

You prune or train to suit your whims. I've topped indoor sativas during veg and flower. I'm talkin' like 10 times maybe half that was during flowering. Had to, grew too tall.

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Now...explain to the newbs that follow you blindly what topping 10 times to the same plant does at a molecular level. For that matter topping to early like you suggest. You know better than that...well maybe not. Maybe you should learn to control your environment because overgrowth is a sign only a rookie or lazy ass would make...10 times!....Your a joke.

Can u topp during flowering I'm on day 5

Eno esquire said:

Can u topp during flowering I'm on day 5

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Yes it is of no concern that early into transition. Seriously even though not ideal I have had to top several times well into flower with some sativas that just would t stop growing throughout 18 weeks of flower. Sure topping do mj n flower will reduce yield but not like letting them growi to the lights will. Lol. But 5 days after flip its nothing to stress over so kick back and enjoy. Keep "em Green

Wow! Thanks for such a fast reply. The reason I want to topp is basically I have a sour deisel that's out growing my other plants. She is about 20 22 inches I have some 18 inches the rest 12 inches can I avoid decreasing yeild by lst training instead of topping

I topped the 18 inche plants in vegg I though the sour d was to lanky at the time now it's getting taller and branching out well

Eno esquire said:

I topped the 18 inche plants in vegg I though the sour d was to lanky at the time now it's getting taller and branching out well

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When you 'Top' your plant if your clone skills are good, you can take the top, and trim it and clone it... Good Luck! I do this almost every time I cut the UB way...

here is where I cut my og kush. this is my 1st time trying this method out. but 3 hours before that I had cut right above the 4th leaf node. is this gonna mess with the hormones from not working correctly? this is where I first cut. right above 4th node.

Sand4x105 said:

When you 'Top' your plant if your clone skills are good, you can take the top, and trim it and clone it... Good Luck! I do this almost every time I cut the UB way...

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hey are you still able to top using his method with the clone or do you have to start again from seed to use this method? I know how to do it ive never used the top ive trimmed just planted new seeds. thx

Stoned Drifter said:

View attachment 2791929here is where I cut my og kush. this is my 1st time trying this method out. but 3 hours before that I had cut right above the 4th leaf node. is this gonna mess with the hormones from not working correctly? this is where I first cut. right above 4th node.View attachment 2791932View attachment 2791937

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As long as you cut above the 2nd node you'll get 4 main colas. Doesn't really matter if you cut above the 4th node first. Might take a bit longer for the plant to respond but no big deal.

Hey uncle ben i have a question. Im pretty sure its been answered but i cant find it in the thread, when you top and you use that top as a clone are you still able to use your method on that clone or will it have a different affect? would greatly appreciate help with this thanks

As long as you have opposing nodes you'll get the "Uncle Ben Effect".

Uncle Ben said:

As long as you have opposing nodes you'll get the "Uncle Ben Effect".

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Thank you for that i have a clone and i was wondering if i should have let it grow out or if i should top again..... Guess I'm uncle benning again

Hey UB!!!

Great write up btw!!! I just had a quick question I am pretty sure this has come up but I couldn't find anything. I'm a total newb to this and I see your plants and they look nothing like mine. I got some clones but the leaf nodes do not look like yours. They are staggered and I don't have any alternating can I still cut on the 2nd true node to get 4 colas?

Speaking of vermicompost, worm bins are a piece of cake to assemble. All of those kitchen scraps that you toss out can be turned in to gold for your plants! I started a simple compost bin in my back yard, and started adding veggie/fruit scraps, lawn clippings, twigs, etc. I then made a worm bin out of a 30 gallon rubbermaid container by just drilling some small aeration holes around the perimeter and on the lid.

I found a local company that sells red wiggler worms, and I picked up a pound of them (roughly 1000 worms). I take my partially composted organic material from my compost bin outside, and fill up my worm bin with it .... and in about 2-3 weeks I have dark, rich vermicompost that I use to amend soil with, top dress my plants going in to flower with, and make aerated compost teas with that the ladies absolutely love!! 100% free, organic rocket fuel for my plants!!

Here's a good thread to get you started: https://www.rollitup.org/organics/637587-vermicomposters-unite-official-worm-farmers.html

st0wandgrow said:

Speaking of vermicompost, worm bins are a piece of cake to assemble. All of those kitchen scraps that you toss out can be turned in to gold for your plants! I started a simple compost bin in my back yard, and started adding veggie/fruit scraps, lawn clippings, twigs, etc. I then made a worm bin out of a 30 gallon rubbermaid container by just drilling some small aeration holes around the perimeter and on the lid.

I found a local company that sells red wiggler worms, and I picked up a pound of them (roughly 1000 worms). I take my partially composted organic material from my compost bin outside, and fill up my worm bin with it .... and in about 2-3 weeks I have dark, rich vermicompost that I use to amend soil with, top dress my plants going in to flower with, and make aerated compost teas with that the ladies absolutely love!! 100% free, organic rocket fuel for my plants!!

Here's a good thread to get you started: https://www.rollitup.org/organics/637587-vermicomposters-unite-official-worm-farmers.html

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Good info thank you . . . Reducing foot print and reclaiming money through recycling is never a bad idea

You bet rusty. I used to buy bottles of this and that, bags of soil, etc often dropping $100's of dollars.

Everything is practically free now. In addition to a free source of compost that you can make yourself, fermented plant extracts can be made out of stuff growing in your backyard such as dandelions, horsetail, comfrey. I've really had my eyes opened to this stuff over the past year, and I can't believe how simple (and cheap) it is, and the difference in the quality of smoke and health of the plants is astonishing.

Here's an interesting link on some of the benefits of various weeds and plants that you can use for growing marijuana: https://www.frenchgardening.com/tech.html?pid=3164873867231346

st0wandgrow said:

You bet rusty. I used to buy bottles of this and that, bags of soil, etc often dropping $100's of dollars

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So, you finally learned what I've been practicing for 30 years. You feel you've discovered the new world after pissing off money on crap. Congradulations!

I've done vermicomposting. They are particularly fond of banana peels and shredded B/W newspaper.

Having said that, everything is a chemical and your statement about chemicals fouling up the micro life is bullshit. Your organics are chemicals. Worms excrete chemicals. You're a hodgepodge of chemicals.....Al Gore. The world is made up of chemicals. Sorry, but drenching your pots with 1 tsp./gallon of Miracle Gro does not destroy micro life, not that you have any way to measure it. You own an electron microscope by chance and have analysed this "life"?

Organic pesticides are just as poisonous as malathion, some even more so. You just have to learn how to use them. At least malathion returns quickly to the phosphate it was made from and quickly becomes benigh. Get the facts, not the feelings.

Really don't see the point, nor is it relative to the thread topic. If you want to get on the organic, natural (bullshit) bandwagon, why don't you start your own thread? I'm sure the fate of the western world depends on your newly discovered revelations.

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Topping the Uncle Ben way is not removing foliage. It's a form of training in the very early stages of a seedling's life. You need to read the first page or perhaps someone with more patience could explain the process to you.

Compost is not free. They charge $35/yard here. I get all the horse manure I want free and do my own composting. Well, it's kinda free. I rent a dump trailer and split the rental with a friend.

UB

Uncle Ben said:

So, you finally learned what I've been practicing for 30 years. You feel you've discovered the new world after pissing off money on crap. Congratulations!

I've done vermicomposting. They are particularly fond of banana peels and shredded B/W newspaper.

Having said that, everything is a chemical and your statement about chemicals fouling up the micro life is bullshit. Your organics are chemicals. Worms excrete chemicals. You're a hodgepodge of chemicals.....Al Gore. The world is made up of chemicals. Sorry, but drenching your pots with 1 tsp./gallon of Miracle Gro does not destroy micro life, not that you have any way to measure it. You own an electron microscope by chance and have analysed this "life"?

Really don't see the point, nor is it relative to the thread topic. If you want to get on the organic, natural (bullshit) bandwagon, why don't you start your own thread? I'm sure the fate of the western world depends on your newly discovered revelations.

[video=youtube;8Zqe4ZV9LDs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zqe4ZV9LDs&feature=player_embedded[/video]

UB

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You have a very poor grasp of organics, and soil microbiology. Kelp meal, Neem seed meal, rock dusts, worm castings, etc are organic inputs which bacteria and fungi break down, and through death and deification in turn feed the plant or store it within the medium (providing you have a sufficient cation exchange capacity). Dumping Miracle Grow in your soil completely forgoes this process and as a result the bacteria/fungi/hyphae die, or go dormant. Nothing but anaerobic bacteria survive after enough salt builds up in a medium.

I'd like to recommend a book to you. "Teaming With Microbes". I know you will enjoy it. Even an old dog can learn new tricks.

PS- I don't need a microscope to verify what is common knowledge in the world of botany. Try using the google, it is your friend.

I think the plant being fed the nutes and circumventing the benes eventually does cause micro genocide. Use it or lose it. I am laughing at the CEC. You biochar nut. Let's all piss on some biochar and make up.

st0wandgrow said:

Nahh, I think I'll pop in regularly to help dispel some of the snake oil that's being pushed here. Dumping chemicals on your plants is no way to treat a lady.

You guys should look in to amending your own soil. It can be used over, and over again providing you have a good source of compost (or vermicompost). No more need to buy bottles of nutrients, or bags of soil. Just plug and play.... and some of the finest herb you will ever smoke will be the end result.

Another good thread to check out: https://www.rollitup.org/michigan-patients/583341-so-who-here-growing-true.html

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Been there done that. Since my sickness and retiring I can not take on a full time job like you mention. Some people have physical issues and dirt, mixing, and dust can not be tolerated.