Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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josh b

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sorry if this is annoying but erm would it be possible for anyone to show me a piccy of a young plant being topped?
i want to top my plant early so it can grow more bush and have more colas also does putting in a cage on top of them force em to grrow bushier and not so tall?

also i like this topping guide very helpfull and will be using it soon i hope :D
 

Uncle Ben

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sorry if this is annoying but erm would it be possible for anyone to show me a piccy of a young plant being topped?
i want to top my plant early so it can grow more bush and have more colas also does putting in a cage on top of them force em to grrow bushier and not so tall?

also i like this topping guide very helpfull and will be using it soon i hope :D
Sorry, the puppy chewed up my video camera lens.

No, a cage only acts as a support. Use it if ya got it.

UB
 

lawhyno

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Hi UB. Thanks for the post. I am a noob and am desperately trying to understand. Is there any way you can give me a picture of the plant right before you make the cut and right after? I have never studied botany so your terminology flies way over my head.
I am looking at my plant and I am trying to understand where the 2nd true node is. What is a cotyledon? Is there any way you can explain this easier or link me to a more visual description?
Thanks UB... sorry for the ignorance.
 

DoeEyed

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Hi UB. Thanks for the post. I am a noob and am desperately trying to understand. Is there any way you can give me a picture of the plant right before you make the cut and right after? I have never studied botany so your terminology flies way over my head.
I am looking at my plant and I am trying to understand where the 2nd true node is. What is a cotyledon? Is there any way you can explain this easier or link me to a more visual description?
Thanks UB... sorry for the ignorance.
Everyone gotta learn somewhere, right? Ok, well the cotyldons are those very first, rounded, not jagged, leaves that come out of the seed. A node is the place where the leaf stems join the main stalk - they are in pairs at first, and later, alternating. So - don't count that very first single bladed leaf, go above it, and count two nodes - two leaf sets. Cut above there - the main stem. Here's one of mine - before cutting, and a day later.:peace:
 

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Hassan

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Could you please explain what you mean by pinching above the second true node?

Na I'm just kidding lol. I know I already said thanks but just had to say I finally finished reading the whole thread and the information provided by UB and borntokillspam is an incredible contribution to this forum. I've learned so much more than just the topping method and my mindset about growing has completely changed. I can't thank the both of you enough. Should be required reading for new growers, fuck the bullshit
 

fanya

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Hi UB. Thanks for the post. I am a noob and am desperately trying to understand. Is there any way you can give me a picture of the plant right before you make the cut and right after? I have never studied botany so your terminology flies way over my head.
I am looking at my plant and I am trying to understand where the 2nd true node is. What is a cotyledon? Is there any way you can explain this easier or link me to a more visual description?
Thanks UB... sorry for the ignorance.
If you look at my pictures in post 1099 (which is only a few above this one) you should be able to see pretty clearly where you should top.

Although I didn't wait for 5 nodes to appear, I did mine at like 3-4 so they are smaller than some.

Good luck.
 

milowerx96

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I did not read the whole thread. I got tired after page 25 or so. I top more than once. I usually top at the 5th to 8th node. Then when my growth tips have grown 2 nodes I top them. If I am outside I do it again. I also trim BIG fan leaves that block light to new growth tips. I know someone will bitch about that part. I don't care. I end up with lots of big ass tops and that's what I really care about. Big fan of the topping.
 

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Mr.Oasis

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i just began my 2nd grow and have topped all my prospects as per the method mentioned early on in this thread, i messed up on one i topped above the 3rd node as opposed the the second, it has 6 tops growing pretty evenly tho (all bagseed but this one def sat dom)

my question is like you're saying, topping those growths, would those 6 tops i have i suppose give me 12 tops?? Given plenty of time to grow im sure its an excellent yield, how about the potency though, is it affected with having spread its growth across 12 tops instead of say 1, 2, 4...etc ???


ps milo if thats just a single plant there in the middle that is pretty remarkable indeed
 

milowerx96

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That is one plant tied up there. It's a Dutch Queen Not sure of the yield because it got mixed up with the rest but it was pretty nice. So ya if you let the new growth tips grow out and top and spread them you will end up with a shit load of tops. I usualy do a second topping when the growing branches have 2 or 3 nodes on them too. This technique works best if you have a long veg cycle. You can do this a lot. Indoors I usually veg 60 days then flower 60. I like strains that flower in 60 days or less for this reason. It lets you run flip flop rooms.

i just began my 2nd grow and have topped all my prospects as per the method mentioned early on in this thread, i messed up on one i topped above the 3rd node as opposed the the second, it has 6 tops growing pretty evenly tho (all bagseed but this one def sat dom)

my question is like you're saying, topping those growths, would those 6 tops i have i suppose give me 12 tops?? Given plenty of time to grow im sure its an excellent yield, how about the potency though, is it affected with having spread its growth across 12 tops instead of say 1, 2, 4...etc ???


ps milo if thats just a single plant there in the middle that is pretty remarkable indeed
 

fanya

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I did not read the whole thread. I got tired after page 25 or so. I top more than once. I usually top at the 5th to 8th node. Then when my growth tips have grown 2 nodes I top them. If I am outside I do it again. I also trim BIG fan leaves that block light to new growth tips. I know someone will bitch about that part. I don't care. I end up with lots of big ass tops and that's what I really care about. Big fan of the topping.
+rep, that shit is sick.

I was going to top a 2nd time but figured I would run out space, which is going to be an issue as it is I believe.
 

Uncle Ben

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Everyone gotta learn somewhere, right? Ok, well the cotyldons are those very first, rounded, not jagged, leaves that come out of the seed. A node is the place where the leaf stems join the main stalk - they are in pairs at first, and later, alternating. So - don't count that very first single bladed leaf, go above it, and count two nodes - two leaf sets. Cut above there - the main stem. Here's one of mine - before cutting, and a day later.:peace:
Well done.

Could you please explain what you mean by pinching above the second true node?
Well, after a nite of eatin' beans and tortillas and shootin' tequila shots, I jest sit there on my throne, contemplate the day's work that lies before me and lo and behold, the place to pinch mah loaf becomes clear.

I always shoos the "reel one". :D
 

Uncle Ben

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i just began my 2nd grow and have topped all my prospects as per the method mentioned early on in this thread, i messed up on one i topped above the 3rd node as opposed the the second, it has 6 tops growing pretty evenly tho (all bagseed but this one def sat dom)

my question is like you're saying, topping those growths, would those 6 tops i have i suppose give me 12 tops?? Given plenty of time to grow im sure its an excellent yield, how about the potency though, is it affected with having spread its growth across 12 tops instead of say 1, 2, 4...etc ???


ps milo if thats just a single plant there in the middle that is pretty remarkable indeed
This thread is about tricking the plant into producing 4 central leaders aka "main colas", instead of the usual one. You can top all you want, anywhere you want and you'll get additional output, but, you won't get 4 main colas. There is a difference. Choosing your training method is all about creating a certain plant structure, plant profile, that suits you best.

UB
 

Uncle Ben

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Here's an outdoor, autoflowering sativa topped for 4 main colas. It was grown in a Griffin's Spin-out treated 5 gallon pot.

Pinched and recently upcanned.




....about 3 weeks later showing nice development of 4 central leaders (main colas).



Close up of 2 of the colas heavy with bud, laying over from the weight.




Plant close to harvest. Colas are so heavy even staking isn't holding them up. They are prostrate with buds growing vertically.

 

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collieBudz

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This thread is about tricking the plant into producing 4 central leaders aka "main colas", instead of the usual one. You can top all you want, anywhere you want and you'll get additional output, but, you won't get 4 main colas. There is a difference. Choosing your training method is all about creating a certain plant structure, plant profile, that suits you best.

UB

i msure you're gonna tell me it's still stunted, but what the hell, this is 8 days after topping, ill put the 2 pics, does this even appear to be respectable growth or is still majorly stunted? ive started some more seeds anywa.. andf cloning, drills or no drills, apparently i suck ass cause im 0 for 8, do i really need the dome or not, one of those things people say and other say dont..
 

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Uncle Ben

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i msure you're gonna tell me it's still stunted, but what the hell, this is 8 days after topping, ill put the 2 pics, does this even appear to be respectable growth or is still majorly stunted? ive started some more seeds anywa.. andf cloning, drills or no drills, apparently i suck ass cause im 0 for 8, do i really need the dome or not, one of those things people say and other say dont..
I think you're doing fine. I also gave you my advice and some detailed cultural tips.

Dome for what purpose?

UB
 
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