Vertical stadium HPS+LED - TGA Apollo 11,Cheese Quake,Ace of Spades,9 other strains

They really are... once they start growing and get their big boy nutes it'll be time to take cuts later this week as well -- yet another thing to prepare for 2-3 weeks til flower!

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Today they got:
full strength pure blend (1-.5-1) tbsp/gal
calmag full strength (2 tsp/gal)
superthrive full strength (1ml/gal)
EJ catalyst - 1 tsp/gal
EJ microblast mild - 1/2 tsp/gal
pH 6.3

Depending on how they respond they start getting pure blend pro next water - sure apollos will and probably AoS... the CQ is supposed to be a light feeder so gotta be careful. It's definitely time to take cuts in the next week or so, probably after their first big girl nutes when they have that first nute growth spurt.

Oh yeah, I'm gonna start popping my other beans tonight... I'll most likely have them going in the same cab as before until the first shelves are built. i'm still working out in my head how i'm gonna hang these lights... i may hold off on 3rd shelf until next grow as i don't need the 3rd shelf based on # of plants (just right for 2) - will just have to use the extra leds on the 2 shelves i really need to get some kind of watering system in place just watering the 20 is already killing me, tho no worse than my waterings from previous grow... goal is to be much less work than previous grow With an automated watering system I could theoretically take a vacation too

1 Greenhouse Kings Kush (headband supposedly)
2 Greenhouse Chemdog
4 BMF (C4 x Caseyband) - note: Always wanted to try C4 - not sure what Caseyband is but if it's a headband cross I would not mind that...
2 Cheese x Cheese (gonna be bummed if no fems!)
4 Blue Cheese x Lush bx1
4 Sparkle f2 (funky pheno)
2 Void x Grape Apollo (will be even more upset than the cheese if no fems, sounds yuuuuumy)
4 Blue Dream x Cheese

Well sir, I'll gladly take males off your hands. Especially the cheese or the double grape Apollo.(that's what Highlanders Cave has dubbed them, due to the void having been a purple pheno[a strong one at that!])

So you want around 15 -20 males? OK!

Not holding on to much hope there, eh?

Ive had fantastic female to male ratios, I think you should also.

Mohican said:

I tested my rainwater a couple of weeks ago and it was 5.5 and 5.7 in the two clean containers I had sitting out. I have started using lower pH water on my outdoor plants with great results.

My hydro guy says he uses calmag and sensi a/b on his seedlings and gets great results. That is what I tried and it worked really well with Sunshine #4 mix.

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I grow in the southwest and everything is alkaline here. The wells around here are around 9 and even the rainwater is in the 8s since when it runs off the roof it picks up the alkaline water. Even the compost here is almost 8. I grow both in and out in soil. I noticed a marked improvement in the quality and color of the plants when I started to add 1 teaspoon of vinegar to each gallon of water. That brought the ph into the 6s. One day I added too much vinegar and it went into the 5s but I watered anyway. Well the next day the plants looked even better so I started to water with water in the 5 range (2 teaspoon/gallon) and so far they look fabulous. I figure the acidic water is compensating for the alkaline everything around here. But I do watch it cause it is easy to overdo something and fuck it all up.

I meant from all the plants... 40+, so 10-15 should be about right... probably closer to 10 if I get the ratios I usually get (and why wouldn't I? )

Most of the water I've tested in the austin area is over 8 pH. i got some RO water last time that was ph 9. there's just no telling, that's why I always do a pH check... and my nutes generally take pH from 8-9 down to around 5. I usually aim for 6.3-6.5. Anything up to 6.8 should be fine, but since I'm always pH up'ing I try to leave a little room for the pH to drift up a bit just in case. At 6.5 if you're off by .2 either way on the meter you're still good

So hard not to go upstairs and check on my babies during the day when the daughter is awake... some of them still hadn't perked up/resumed major growth since transplant this morning, while others had... lesson learned -- I normally ALWAYS use superthrive during transplant and almost NEVER have transplant shock... this time I didn't, and it's clear the difference. I kinda always thought maybe I was just a good transplanter and that's why I never had much in the way of problems but apparently it's the superthrive Not that it's a problem.... just when you're used to the plants being completely unaffected and then you have to watch'em be slightly droopy and not growing much for a few days you kick yourself a little bit But luckily I'm not rushing these, so it's not a big deal -- the goal for these is not to get big. The goal for these is just to get me my 1-2 oz/plant, and i don't think that should be a problem in pots 2/3 the size of the ones I got 3-4 oz off of. Really I think if I go with the way I'm planning (4 main colas like hovering) I should easily get 1/4 - 1/2 oz per cola on any non-small yielders. We'll see no super soil this time maybe I won't have as good of results -- that'd be a bummer. Oh shit I gotta get ready for clones in the next few days! I sense a cloning video coming up (complete with cloning updates)!! Surely I can do better than my last cloning attempt (around 25% success rate) -- i need to get 100% success on 20 plants to avoid round 2 of cuts in a couple weeks... we'll see what the odds of that are... i have high hopes at greater success believe I can correct a couple things that held back my results last time

So a little late, but popped all 25 of my remaining beans, including the freebies/greenhouses. I am bean-less. But with over a dozen strains going I guess I'll have some variety. Thought I posted this earlier... was wondering why no one had made any comment... then realized I never posted it at all... finally put locks on my grow room and my man cave So yeah that grow room has worked out great... has not been too hot... just right really in the lower 80s usually mid-late day mid-upper 70s most other times. Will have to check now that I added two more lights though.

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I think I found the exact spot on the property here to see the whole videos now!!!
i saw all of this one at least.. Looking great man, you're going to train for four tops?
Thats gonna be a lot of trim..ming...

yeah it is

bummer is went in this morn just now and it was 85.. that means it's probably up above 90 in there late afternoon now with the 4 lights... so not sure what i'm gonna do about that

Go around the house, and close(partially) all the vents except the one in the room.
Itll create higher pressure in the vents and that'll be the easiest out!

Just checking in here sesi.........looks like a great grow going on!
I just finished reading....Scottyballs thread....in a waterfarm system....in a coleman cabinet...he cools the cab with a 485cfm dayton fan.

ps...when you going to display still shots dude?...can not view video here

Theowl said:

Go around the house, and close(partially) all the vents except the one in the room.
Itll create higher pressure in the vents and that'll be the easiest out!

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I know that but for some reason didn't remember it.. unfortunately the vents they have here are not like any I've seen... i'm not sure they can even be closed they're not the standard type I've had in every other place I've lived. The irony is that down the hall where my daughter is sleeping is where I had originally planned for this room to be, and it is the coldest room in the house and would not have these issues... the one the grow is in is the 2nd hottest. I guess one thing I should do is go ahead and get that window plastic'ed over so that the heat from the sun is not coming inside in late day.

fandango said:

Just checking in here sesi.........looks like a great grow going on!
I just finished reading....Scottyballs thread....in a waterfarm system....in a coleman cabinet...he cools the cab with a 485cfm dayton fan.

ps...when you going to display still shots dude?...can not view video here

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Well the issue as always is in a rental, vent to where? I can't put in permanent ventilation out anywhere... it's not in a cab now it's in a room and the room is getting too hot with the 2 extra lights (was fine with just 2 lights, apparently 4 is too much) -- which means a 400w HPS + 6 LEDs is definitely going to be too much for the room to take... I think the other room would take it no problem. If I could just leave the door open so the room got the house air it'd be fine as well... I could move the grow to the mancave... not sure if there's room in there for the full pyramid of power though it's a lot smaller. pyramid of power, one day you will be mine.... but not for a while it seems... now my daughter is saying she's probably going to be here til november (ie, the rest of the grow up til harvest time).

Should be taking cuts probably tomorrow or the next day... i should really wait til the next day as i need to feed/water them again tomorrow morning and it'd be better to wait until after the feeding has had a chance to load the plant up with nutes prior to taking the cuts. I got new rapid rooters and a tray to hold the rooters to go in my other tray now, some fresh blades and my rooting gel is ready and waiting... i need to plant sprouted seeds into cups tomorrow morning as well. Shit, I guess I'll sprout half of'em into my mini airpots... don't believe i have 25 of them though so only half will get them and half'll get solos. Damn looks like I'm gonna be getting up around 4am tomorrow again to get my gardening done... i can't do it in the evenings... early morning is really my only time

OK, turned one of the lights off and covered the window... hopefully that'll keep her down around 85.. plants showing signs of some mild heat stress. I gave'm a small water (about 8oz each)

Planted the new plants... they're all in... I lost 2 of my 'adventure mix' seeds (2 freebies and 3 greenhouse fems i just chucked'em in water together).. it's not worth the time to explain what happened.

Already starting to regret all these plants... i am DEFINITELY gonna have to get some kind of automated watering system in place.

Yeah I thought you'd be loaded down! As is, not counting the lil uns', it's more than I'd want to handle!
Sucks you gotta get up so early... Got some sprouts now myself! So I'm going to be loaded up myself soon, what with Voidling's cuts... And they'll veg and clone and so on. Not going to lose anymore plants this year, dammit!!

Good luck with that heat sense
Very Ready for fall/winter
We can all just use our lights to heat the house n save all the damn elecricity!
O and the med man.... ...kiss-ass

I decided tomorrow morning when I get up I'm going to move the grow downstairs into the mancave... it's a better location and a lot cooler.... it should be able to handle it I hope, and a bit more convenient to look after the plants as it's on the same floor. A little more than half the seeds have sprouted... the other half look like the may not (?) -- i may be glad if that's the case though as i don't know how i can take care of that many without some kind of watering system... something i need to look into. The original plan was to move them into the other room where my daughter is after she moved out... which apparently may never happen at the current rate...

Also, the first round of clones all died except one (of course the one i care least about getting a clone from) -- dome was not tight enough and didn't keep humidity in so they all wilted in the heat. Kind of bummed with this batch there's definitely a big difference from my plants last round grown in soil with organic ferts in them and soil with almost none... almost all the plants have some degree of ca or mg deficiency (mostly mg). i think i made it worse by giving'em mostly the EJ microblast last time which has mg but not ca. I'm gonna top dress'em with my veg dirt and give'm a strong dose from the new bottle of cal-mag i just picked up at the hydro store... i just gave'm micros and waters last time this time they'll get the big boy nutes (pure blend pro)... i'll probably give the AoS and apollos a full dose and the CQs half.

Yeah goodro i know i love winter as a texas grower... all of a sudden your room stops heating up like crazy during the day i can't wait... plus i prefer fall/winter weather. i just don't feel like going out much and doing stuff outdoors when it's over 90... fall/winter/spring = outdoor weather for me It's going to be time to go to flower soon i can't wait til the next harvest glad you like the med man

Here they are... another week or so and it's flower time


Left: Apollo 13, 2nd left: Cheesequake, 3rd from left: Genius x Deep Chunk, 4th Ace of Spades



New seedlings... this may be all there are looks like the others aren't germing I couldn't even find seeds in most of them

It's 72 degrees outside the plastic sheet... 70 degrees inside the plastic sheet in the grow area with 2 blackstars going Should be fine for the HPS there.

I am broke... can't even think about building a shelf til next payday end of first week of sept. Bummer. Literally do not have a spare $75-80 to get wood for a shelf

I feel a bit better too... i calibrated the ph on my pen earlier and it was way off... 7 solution was measuring at 7.5... 4 at 3.9... didn't end up watering the big plants because they just didn't need it yet... but guessing the pH being off may have something to do with the cal-mag issues i've seen.... bad pH = mg-ca lockout.