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DIY-HP-LED

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I must say Donald's most recent plea to Vlad for dirt comes at a wonderful time! The stable jenus just gave the media an excuse to dredge up the Hilary emails Russia (Julian is coming to America soon) scandal, his first impeachment for putting the arm on Zelenskiy, over Javelins no less and of course they were all used as filler and context on Donald's latest appeal to a war criminal and butcher. Vlad currently is a 6% in the US polls and will be flat broke soon, like Donald I suppose, yet Donald continues to cling to him and ask for help against his political rivals. Donald is clearly extra special stupid, we're lucky ya got rid of the stupid bastard, he really does have an IQ of around 85 and is clearly a moron and would be categorized as one by professionals.

The only bigger morons were the people who voted for him, or a republican in 2020. Most of them would be classified as fools and all of them as moral failures, they put their hatred for their fellow Americans ahead of their country, so they weren't patriots either.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Hope fades for resolution as Russia orders fresh strikes
Any potential hopes for an impending resolution to Russia’s war in Ukraine faded on Wednesday as Russian strikes were reported in areas where Moscow suggested the day before it would scale back those offenses.

The White House viewed the Russia declaration with a high dose of skepticism and was therefore not surprised by the fresh attacks reported near the northern cities of Kyiv and Chernihiv. Meanwhile, Russian and Ukrainian officials have been meeting in Turkey for peace talks, but those conversations have yet to yield any breakthroughs.

Russia has sent mixed messages about its intentions over the last 24 hours, further fueling doubt over whether any breakthrough is imminent in its assault, which is about to enter its sixth week.

The war has left thousands of Ukrainians and Russians dead, spawned a growing refugee crisis, and triggered crushing Western sanctions that have decimated the Russian economy.

The Pentagon said that Russia has started to move some troops away from Kyiv, but said those forces would likely be redeployed to other areas — signaling a shift in Russia’s strategy as it endures heavy losses.

President Biden spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday for nearly an hour. The two men discussed the latest negotiations between Ukraine and Russia, and Biden pledged continued humanitarian, economic and military assistance.

The White House has thus far not gotten involved in talks between Ukraine and Russia, instead leaving it up to other European leaders to deal directly with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“We are not negotiators in that process. We are obviously in close contact with the Ukrainians as they work through this process,” White House communications director Kate Bedingfield told reporters on Wednesday.

“Again, our role is to do everything we can to strengthen Ukraine on the battlefield… and also to strengthen their hand at the negotiating table by continuing to apply incredibly severe costs and sanctions on Russia.”

The New York Times reported that the Kremlin’s top negotiator, Vladimir Medinsky, suggested on state television that Ukraine was making key concessions about neutrality. But just hours earlier, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said the talks in Istanbul had not produced anything promising.

Meanwhile, the Institute for the Study of War said that the Russians have not abandoned attacks on Kyiv, despite their declarations. It assessed that the Russian military “have given up on encircling or seizing Kyiv at this time.”

Pentagon press secretary John Kirby told reporters Wednesday that Russia has started to move less than 20 percent of its troops around Kyiv away from the city in the last day, including sending some to Belarus. The Pentagon’s assessment, he said, is that Russia will refit the troops and then deploy them in other areas of Ukraine.

“We have seen none of them reposition to their home garrison,” Kirby said. “If the Russians are serious about de-escalating because that’s their claim there, then they should send them home. But they’re not doing that, at least not yet.”

Analysts and officials say that the Russian military has underperformed in Ukraine and faced serious resistance.

Biden administration officials have revealed that U.S.intelligence has assessed Putin feels “misled” by the Russian military and that military officials “misinformed” him about how poorly Russian forces are doing on the battlefield.

Retired Lt. Gen. Ben Hodges, former commanding general of the U.S. Army Europe, told The Hill the Russians have “failed totally” in their original plan of trying to capture Kyiv and other cities. He predicted the Russians would return to where they have the most advantages to try to solidify the territory they control and intensify attacks on Mariupol to try to strengthen their negotiating position.

Meanwhile, it’s unclear whether peace talks can make any progress. Ukraine said Tuesday that it would adopt a neutral status, forgoing its desire to join NATO, if given security guarantees.

Experts and lawmakers have said any talks of a ceasefire from Russia should be approached with a degree of skepticism given the Kremlin’s track record.

“I wouldn’t trust anything Vladimir Putin suggests,” Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Ala.), ranking member of the House Armed Services Committee, said during The Hill’s Future of Defense Summit. “If I was President Zelensky, I would keep fighting as ferociously as they have been fighting until such a time that Putin himself proposes something that’s acceptable to Zelensky. In my view, that should be nothing short of withdrawal, full withdrawal from the country.”

Hodges argued that the U.S. needs to provide Ukraine with more military assistance to push out the Russians, including the means to destroy Russian long-range rockets and artillery and bolster their air and missile defense capability. Without more urgency on the part of the U.S., he said, “this can last forever.”
I did not believe Putin on giving up on the rest of the country. I though he might try a fast one with making the rest of the world think he is pulling back. My first order of business would be to figure out how to harden my tank turrets. Pull them back, refit them and send them out again. At least for the Switchblade drones, the Javelins and such not much you can do.
Switchblade 600s carry Javelin warheads.
 

injinji

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To me the thing that scares the right the most about Beau is that once you have heard something, you can not unhear it. The look, the shed, the whole thing just screams to a certain segment, this guy is one of us. So he gets a lot of clicks other progressives will never get. When the Curious George patch is upside down, you know it's one of his phishing expeditions. He gets them on the line, then he slips in the uncomfortable facts.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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The WH just said they were sending another 100. Might be the bigger brother. Still, 100 could be gone in a week if things heat up some more.
The are produced under license in the UK and Turkey, so Sammy could be pulling a fast one on Vlad. Interesting fact, Turkey gets 90% of it's grain from Ukraine! They will sink any Russians who tries to sink a grain ship, most of it is bound for the Islamic world, including Turkey who is most dependent.

I saw on one of their promo videos that the anti armor 600 uses a Javelin warhead. The smaller 300 is like a small flying claymore mine, it will shred a jeep or truck and kill or injure the occupants, or clean the crew off an artillery gun and probably damage it, hitting an ammo truck would most likely have spectacular results. Russian generals would be a prime target and would probably kill him and most of his staff talking in a circle. The small one can keep them company in a foxhole or machine gun nest, having lot's is nice since ya can kill them before you see them and walk up on defensive positions with the defenders conveniently already dead.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I gotta tell ya some republicans are all in on Ukraine, it would be hard for some of them to be on the same page as Trump on this one, especially the ex military types and cold warriors. They ain't too worried about disagreeing with Donald on this one, the base is enchanted by the citizens fight for liberty, it's got that WW2 air of moral clarity about it for most people. This has a double whammy effect and will lead to way too much shit going into Ukraine as each side vies to get credit for the victory! Nobody will want to be seen as soft on Russia, not Joe and sure as shit not the republicans, who have thrown Vlad under the bus and are running away from the fucker like he is on fire, with notable exceptions :lol: Don't worry, they will use everything we give them for as long as Vlad is still around and in Ukraine and the extras will keep the fucker out.
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Does Ukraine have the tools it needs to beat Russia? | NewsNation

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Looks like John McCain's widow is UN food ambassador, she seems capable and compassionate, it was a gracious move on Joe's part IMHO. Besides she's richer than God and probably gives a bit away. She talks about trump and Russia...
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U.S. Ambassador Cindy McCain says crisis in Ukraine is undermining food security

 

DIY-HP-LED

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Fuck you Shoigu, ya fucked and murdered the Russian army with corruption and incompetence, we're just helping to put them in their graves. Your Potemkin Village army is being shattered on the field and exposed as weak and obsolete. Did you provide your master with a plan B? How about advising him that it was the beginning of mud season, the worse time to invade imaginable. If Vlad doesn't replace you the army will be destroyed no matter how much you threaten. Didn't the GRU tell you anything about Ukraine and it's army? They are suppose to be military intelligence, perhaps they spent too much time on breaking into American computers to help Trump? Kinda out of their lane weren't they, I mean assessing the Ukrainian military was suppose to be their job and they work for you!

I can see why he's panicking, in a month he'll be dead or freaking out even more as the Ukrainian army grows faster than he can Shanghai troops or get pilfered and stripped junk on the road or in the air. Week by week it will get worse as new tranches of troops graduate from training and more weapons pour in. When they setup defensive positions held by reservists in the north all those forces will head to other fronts. Vlad is still pouring in the kitchen sink and his goal is now to destroy as much as he can before they kick his ass out. It will be like trying to flush a cat. If he was worth $200 billion, I don't think he can physically destroy more than he can afford to personally pay for!
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While waiting for peace, Shoigu Threatens NATO!

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu held a press conference for the first time in a long time. He warned NATO against providing military support to Ukraine.
He said that if NATO sends aircraft and air defense systems to Ukraine to be used against Russia, Russia's response will be very harsh.
Shoigu said that the Russian army has completed the first phase of its main main objective, that Ukraine's military capacity has been severely reduced and they are continuing as planned.
He also said that Ukraine no longer has an air force.
"Our main goal in Ukraine is the liberation of Donbas," Shoigu said. He also argued that the actions of the Ukrainian army in the Black Sea pose a threat to civilian shipping.
Statements were made from the United States about the war in Ukraine.
The issue on the agenda was whether the Russian forces had withdrawn from the capital, Kyiv, and its surroundings.
The Pentagon said that a small number of Russian forces were relocated, but this did not mean withdrawal.
It was said that the war is not going as Russia wants and Russia is losing power.
Statements were also made from the White House.
Communications director, Katedrang Field, said that Russia's relocation of its soldiers does not mean that it stopped the attack, this should not deceive anyone.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It's a good thing those Russians have so much looted money outside the country! Say they can easily get a trillion bucks and if the hunt, another trillion, liquidate the assets. There's Vlad's war chest fund he though he had, but is now tied up of around 700 billion. The bill is already up to $565 billion according to the Ukrainians and I don't imagine they missed much in the billing, say a trillion bucks before Vlad throws in the towel, or gets thrown out of Ukraine. Even two trillion in damages could be covered and most certainly should be, they shouldn't get a dime back IMHO. Vlad will need to live on his government pension and the upkeep for his yachts and mansions in Russia are a bitch.
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  • Russia’s invasion has cost Ukraine $565bn in terms of damage to infrastructure, lost economic growth and other factors, economy minister Yulia Svyrydenko has said.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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They need to take private oligarch money too, Vlad has his with others and most of these assholes are thieves anyway. Most of this money they talk about is government money abroad, but there is more private money held by oligarchs and almost every one is a crook in cahoots with Putin. How much Russian cash is laundered New York real-estate FFS? How about London?

 

CCGNZ

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We've been there before with the cold war, Russia HAD an economy about the size of Italy's before the war and is not a big loss to the global system in the long run. However it does present some short term issues disentangling Russia from the Global economic and trade system. They export a lot of oil and gas along with grain, grain won't be sanctioned or other agricultural commodities, but if the Russian farmers can't get financing to plant this spring, much of Ukraine and Russian grain could be offline this summer and fall. That's why the western system, later the global system of trade and economics was created after the second world war, to prevent war.

There are many practical reasons why it would be a very dumb idea for both America and China to get into a fight. Russia was late to the game of the global system that excluded them until around the turn of the century. With the death of communism Russia came into the global system and countries like Iran and K Korea were kept out. Stalin was the grave digger of communism, but the Chinese experience of forty years of both, buried it for good. China's rise when the people were unleashed and educated was spectacular, all those Chines students in the 80's and 90's are now professors in the many new universities built there since. They might call themselves the communist party, but ironically they buried communism for good.
When Mr. Xi says jump most of the Chinese still say "how high",I 'm not of the opinion that the Chinese Comm. Party is dead as Xi has rolled back a lot of freedoms,the repression of Hong Kong also shows that the Chinese Gov. doesn't keep their word, the Chinese response to Covid and the strict lockdown that followed was a brutal and stunning demonstration of the power of the party in China,but you are spot on that globalism has made war to painful for a US vs. China war as our economies are too intertwined,which in the end is a good idea for the world as peace is much more achievable when as they say"a rising tide lifts all boats".
 

schuylaar

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Having friends is very helpful for many things in war, from supplies to spies. When General Eisenhower, after he was appointed supreme allied commander in early 1944, he was given a tour of the British code breaking operation at Bletchley park, to make sure he took the intelligence seriously. By then it was quite an operation employing thousands who could read German field orders before the Germans could decrypt it themselves and they had cracked the high level system Hitler and the High command used. To say that Ike was ecstatic is too light a term, he near danced with delight!
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
That's one of the areas Putin is retreating in. Part of his peace plan. More full of horse s*** than trump.
I don’t think that is possible. That man is packed with horse**** to such a pressure that scientists are still determining new solid-phase forms of horse**** from his emissions.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Putin In The Dark: U.S. Intel Finds He's Being Misled By Advisers

Russian President Vladimir Putin is being misinformed by his advisers about the Russia's military struggles in Ukraine, according to declassified U.S. intelligence, the New York Times reports. The Morning Joe panel discusses.
 
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