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DIY-HP-LED

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rut roh? i wouldn't pick a fight with Moldova

Another NATO candidate and I don't think that Russian enclave is gonna last, if Ukraine and Moldova want it gone.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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i'm kinda thinkin the same, i kinda wondering is Ukraine and Moldova already are talking bout getting rid of it.....
Moldova will probably wait a spell and see how the war goes, if they drive the Russians out of Crimea. Resupplying them is difficult now that the Ukrainians control the coast, those 1,500 Russian troops are trapped there. They will need to be removed before any referendum can take place, but it is Moldavian territory and recognized as such. It was just another bullshit separatist movement backed up by the army, like so many others. Now that Russia is fucked economically, I doubt many of these places will want to join them.
 

printer

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I saw a documentary on it years back, it was run by a Philosopher then and they did not want to distort the economy with the extra wealth, dividends are used for infrastructure projects etc. The term spare change was to illustrate their relative "spare wealth" to that of the requirements of Swedish and Finnish defense, they could pay for it with annual dividends. One difference between them and US is conservatives will want to spend it by lowering taxes to get elected and usually are paid off by the oil companies. Norway owns it's resource and it's development and thus accumulated great wealth. I dunno how much it pays in dividends after accounting for inflation etc, could look it up I suppose.
The fund is there to ensure the country has money for when the oil runs out. It is generally invested outside the country. Some of the money can be spent in the country and the government does use it to even out the revenue it receives from year to year. Not sure if paying a neighbour's military tab is a legitimate expense but if the Norwegian people decided to do it there is nothing stopping them. But the same could be said to doing it and raising the tax rate one or two percent.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The fund is there to ensure the country has money for when the oil runs out. It is generally invested outside the country. Some of the money can be spent in the country and the government does use it to even out the revenue it receives from year to year. Not sure if paying a neighbour's military tab is a legitimate expense but if the Norwegian people decided to do it there is nothing stopping them. But the same could be said to doing it and raising the tax rate one or two percent.
They would only touch it significantly for a natural disaster or a military emergency, which is becoming less likely with each tank the Ukrainians destroy. If Russia were stupid enough to attack Finland during the membership process to admit it, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't need Norway, except as part of NATO. In any case, attack with what?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Analyst: This underscores Putin's terrible miscalculation


CNN global affairs analyst Susan Glasser says that Russian President Vladimir Putin's threat to deploy nuclear weapons if Sweden and Finland join NATO underscores the terrible miscalculation made when he decided to invade Ukraine.
 

printer

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This is one of the things that can go wrong with the best of plans. Just like covid showing the weaknesses of our supply chains when there is a signifigant disruption, Russia was in good shape to have its fingers in other people's pies as long as it was business as usual. But taking too big a bite out of Ukraine has Russia coughing from the crust flakes going down the wrong way. And having to show a win to their own people they have no choice but to send more and more resources into the conflict. This might be a destabilizing event that strains the nation. Others on its periphery might be weighing the options of putting some space between them and Mother Russia, they might even see the bear weakened enough that they can break free. But once the special operation is over they can be easily gobbled up by the bear if it take the small nations one piece at a time.

If Russia said it would just take the separatist regions at the beginning of the war they might have got the areas without firing a shot. But it would be easy enough to take out the government and reprogram the whole country, or so the saying went.
 

printer

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Roger A. Shrubber

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I still can't believe the Russian apologists who say Ukraine shouldn't join NATO.
i can't believe the russian paranoia that just assumes that anyone not aligned with them, or at least what they consider neutral (weakly armed and vulnerable to their moods) will eventually attack them in some manner. it very much makes me think that that is what they would do, so they expect it of others, even though those others are living a peaceful life, and posing no threat to russia or anyone else.
 
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