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Roger A. Shrubber

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For anyone wondering… I was shown an taught that the US had Russia basically surrounded with NATO for over 20 years! That’s w

I can agree with that, I’m just the type of person that keeps it real. You can’t talk about another doing the things that you did & continue to do. Right is right & wrong is wrong in my eyes. Ultimately we are all fighting for corporations, and lobbyists. Which seems sort of stupid they are playing with common ppl lives. The ppl of all these Nations need to take control back from these dirty politicians and wealthy ppl who mean us no good! That’s where I’m at with it!
you can't keep it real if you don't know what real is...what is what in your eyes means absolutely nothing to anyone except you, not a personal attack, a statement of truth...
you can fight for what you want to fight for, i fight for the continuation of the race first, and the betterment of that race second...i see this as an opportunity to do both
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Common people just want a drama free comfortable life. Imo anyone, any nation or politician, or elite member needs to be dealt with that tries to disrupt the livelihood of those that just want peace!
this is the first statement you have made that isn't a load of ill informed horseshit...now you just have to realize that in order to stop what is happening in Ukraine from happening anywhere else, words are needed just as much as weapons, and the only way to "take back the power" from corrupt politicians is to vote them out of office, and vote better ones in
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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No I’m saying fight! Why after Russia took or stole whichever you want to call what they did. Why didn’t Ukraine secretly ask for warplanes, and everything they would need to put Russia in it’s place? It seems it would have been easier to get that equipment after they lost Crimea before Russia came back. That would have made me do my best to acquire the hardware needed to fight at a future date with Russia! If they invaded once they’d do it again!!!
you aren't them, you have a different mind set, a different set of experiences, a different environment, different neighbors...try taking all of that into account before you form opinions about what to do somewhere else
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I’m also saying why not fight them then at the time they took Crimea?
they didn't have the military arrangement they have now. they were a soviet client state, and their military was arranged the same way the russians military still is, orders come from the top down, and field commanders have to wait for those orders, or risk causing conflict and confrontations on their own side.
Ukraine has spent the time between then and now modernizing both their equipment as much as possible, and their command structure, giving better trained field leaders more authority to act in a timely manner. seems to be working pretty good at the moment.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Trump doesn’t control NATO! Any NATO country could have sent care packages. Can’t bash Trump too much for some of his views in regards to NATO if you’re an American we were majority footing the bill, other NATO members not so much. Enlighten me!
trump was trying to play NATO for his own purposes, so transparently, so badly, that NATO basically discounted anything he said or demanded...trump is and always has been a narcissistic petulant child.
Nato members have rules they have to follow, so no, they could not have just done what they wanted to, they have to abide by the rules they helped draft, to keep them from making things exponentially worse.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/26/world/europe/nato-trump-spending.html

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56nitty

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punish him? like putin is punishing Ukraine?
you are the one too stupid to realize that sanctions are effective, and that much more damage is going to befall russia from them than ten thousand soldiers could cause? it will take decades for them to recover, if we remove the sanctions soon...the longer they stay in place, the more damage they do, and the longer it will take them to recover. China is hesitant to do business with them, they do not wantto get embroiled in a war that can have no real winners.
you sound like a petulant child, threatening people with physical violence for having an opinion that doesn't match yours...you sound like putin, thrashing about trying to look bigger than he is...
why do you care what someone else thinks of you? are you insecure in your masculinity? if you know who and what you are, the opinions of others should slide off of you.
people where you're from keep their word? you aren't a good example of "people where you're from" then...you've been making threats you have no way of carrying out...that's not what adults do, that's not what rational people do, that's what petulant children do, keyboard warrior...
I threatened him because he said homosexual shit to me. Reading is fundamental, you don’t know what I’m capable of carrying out! You do not know me! Also I’m entitled to my opinions as well! Adults don’t say disrespectful shit to ppl because of their opinions to which they are entitled rather it be wrong or right! Why does everyone stick their nose where it doesn’t belong? I wasn’t even talking to you nor have I mentioned you! I’m know keyboard warrior, I’d back what I say up! Again I have absolutely nothing against homosexuals, I just don’t get down with homosexual behavior in reference to myself. Unlike others I mind my own damn business unless addressed! Adults know how to converse without being disrespectful period, with that said re-examine yourself when you speak of others behaving like a petulant child! Those sanctions aren’t stopping the war! Last I checked it’s still going strong! Last I checked there were loopholes that will help the Russians with the sanctions.
 

printer

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Meta labeled 'extremist organization' by Russian court
A Russian court Monday determined that Meta, the newly formed parent company of Facebook, is an “extremist organization,” according to Reuters, citing Russian state-owned media.

The designation means that Facebook and Instagram, which also falls under umbrella of Meta, will continue to be blocked in the country. The designation may also mean that all commercial activity and display of symbols associated with the brand could end up outlawed.

The messaging app WhatsApp, which is hugely popular in Russia, is excluded from the decision despite also being owned by Meta.

The Russian case against Meta partially stems the company’s decision to allow some calls of violence against soldiers invading Ukraine and the leaders of Russia and Belarus.

The company clarified after the initial rule change was reported in the press that the exception only applied for people in Ukraine talking about the Russian military.

The Hill has reached out to a Meta spokesperson for comment on the decision.

Russia earlier this month passed a law criminalizing what the government deems “fake news,” including describing the invasion of Ukraine as such.

Regulators blocked access to Facebook and Instagram earlier this month, although Russian citizens have continued to use the platform through VPNs.
 

captainmorgan

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I threatened him because he said homosexual shit to me. Reading is fundamental, you don’t know what I’m capable of carrying out! You do not know me! Also I’m entitled to my opinions as well! Adults don’t say disrespectful shit to ppl because of their opinions to which they are entitled rather it be wrong or right! Why does everyone stick their nose where it doesn’t belong? I wasn’t even talking to you nor have I mentioned you! I’m know keyboard warrior, I’d back what I say up! Again I have absolutely nothing against homosexuals, I just don’t get down with homosexual behavior in reference to myself. Unlike others I mind my own damn business unless addressed! Adults know how to converse without being disrespectful period, with that said re-examine yourself when you speak of others behaving like a petulant child! Those sanctions aren’t stopping the war! Last I checked it’s still going strong! Last I checked there were loopholes that will help the Russians with the sanctions.
You're quite a special retarded snowflake.
 

BudmanTX

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zeddd

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it sure would be a shame if a few hundred fire bombs burned thousands of acres of russian crops this summer...
the Ukraines should start sending a few units into russia to commit some sabotage.
give them all a pack full of pads filled with western news and pictures of dead russian soldiers, along with murdered Ukrainian children, pregnant women, old men and women...because those are the "enemy" putin fears the most.
take out the transmitters that spread russian propaganda, take out some government offices...take the war home to the people who started it...they no longer get to sit in comfortable offices and homes, they now get to feel some of the same fear they inspire in others
We should bomb his next rally, there is no one to follow this path. Lavrov is looking f stressed, I hope it kills him
 

DIY-HP-LED

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there is no one to follow this path
Good point, Stalin used to say, "no man, no problem", it's especially true in Vlad's case and would solve many problems immediately! The same end could be achieved if they put a massive dose of LSD in his borsch, delayed action, made by the CIA to get by the food taster. Then they could drag him out of the Kremlin raving and frothing at the mouth while wearing a straight jacket. Poor Vlad went mad, there is a bit of a soviet tradition of using mental hospitals to get rid of problems.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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What ever ?
From your posts you appear to have an unstable personality, full of fear and prejudice, and no moral compass, in short, no character to speak of. I'm surprised you would have avoided prison, with your antisocial propensities.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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In Ukraine, Putin Continues To Dig Himself 'A Hole He Can Never Climb Out Of'


The Morning Joe panel discusses the Ukrainian government's refuses to surrender besieged and devastated Mariupol, the international response to Putin's invasion, and what the Ukrainian people will accept as an end to this war.
 

zeddd

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some well informed, intelligent, experienced guy, who has done a lot of homework...you don't have to watch him if you don't want to, but he's been pretty much spot on about everything, so far
Sure but I can’t watch him, it’s an American man with an opinion and advice on how to think if your parents are conservatives and you aren’t.
I m following people on the ground in Ukraine who have a more realistic picture than any of us. Eg The guy from Massachusetts born in Moscow who left the Soviet and then recently went to Ukraine to help as a medic cos he understands the mentality of Kremlin aggressors.
Or some guy in a basement in comfy old USA.
 
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