Week 4 nanners on a feminized seed?

Quintana

Quintana

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Just discovered what looks like nanners on a Blue Dream plant in week 4 bloom, grown from feminized seeds. Is it dunzo or can I save it? Also, at week 4 is it possible this thing has already pollinated my other plants?

I’m reading about “false bananas” but I don’t know if that’s a thing or if it’s just people trying to save their plants.

Anyone have experience with a feminized plant having bananas?

If it’s toast, is harvesting at week 4 (out of 10) even worth the effort?
 

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Budzbuddha

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Nanners can result from a variety of reasons …. Everything from strain self preserving itself to stress / environment / feedings etc.

It will pollinate the buds that express it , seeds will need about 6 weeks to mature. .

IMO keep going , you will still get some smoke out of it. Maybe next time run one without heavy training and see if that played in to issue.
And the breeder quality might be the culprit as well.
 
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jondamon

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Quintana said:
Just discovered what looks like nanners on a Blue Dream plant in week 4 bloom, grown from feminized seeds. Is it dunzo or can I save it? Also, at week 4 is it possible this thing has already pollinated my other plants?

I’m reading about “false bananas” but I don’t know if that’s a thing or if it’s just people trying to save their plants.

Anyone have experience with a feminized plant having bananas?

If it’s toast, is harvesting at week 4 (out of 10) even worth the effort?
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Couple of grows ago I had an eleven roses that threw out bananas everywhere around week 5 of 12/12.

didn’t pollenate any of my crop (4plants)

Personally I don’t freak too much about bananas.
 
OldMedUser

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Any plant that throws 'nanners that early in flowering is going to produce seeds that will also throw 'nanners early in flowering when grown so to me it's a dead plant growing. That is a hermie trait that will be passed on to about half it's offspring. If it's an important strain then it's seeds can be grown out so you can select ones that don't throw 'nanners early and breed out the trait but otherwise I'd toss it. Or at least quarantine it so it doesn't knock up your other girls while it grows out.

Plants that are near finished when 'nanners show especially if they are grown past their due date to force 'nanners are good candidates for making fem seeds with but not when it's that early in the cycle.

:peace:
 
fskitch

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You’ll have quality female seeds if your plants self pollenated due to some type of stress like a light leak. Your seeds will not be prone to nanners.
 
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inth3shadowz

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Budzbuddha said:
Nanners can result from a variety of reasons …. Everything from strain self preserving itself to stress / environment / feedings etc.

It will pollinate the buds that express it , seeds will need about 6 weeks to mature. However one bright spot is you will get fem seeds at end.

IMO keep going , you will still get some smoke out of it. Maybe next time run one without heavy training and see if that played in to issue.
And the breeder quality might be the culprit as well.
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Agreed. Could be coincidence, but on runs that I top/fim too much, I end up with a few herms.
 
Quintana

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Nixs said:
If you can move it out and finish it, will get more feminized seeds that will have nanners too.
Or you can try and pick em off, risk pollinating other plants.
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That’s what I did. I moved it to another floor of the house with its own light. And picked off as many as I can fine. If it throws seeds, I guess I’ll have some for growing in the garden next year. Ha
 
Quintana

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inth3shadowz said:
Agreed. Could be coincidence, but on runs that I top/fim too much, I end up with a few herms.
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I’m trying to main line method with these. It’s my first time so it’s possible I could’ve stressed it. I suspect however that it’s at the sea level because I have four other plants that are doing just great.
 
Quintana

Quintana

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fskitch said:
You’ll have quality female seeds if your plants self pollenated due to some type of stress like a light leak. Your seeds will not be prone to nanners.
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I suspect this might be genetic. I have a pretty solid nutrient regiment and automated room set up, but who knows. I did give them a few feedings without realizing my PH was off a bit. Luckily the others are still good. He/She is now in a different room and I’ll finish it off to see how it goes. Thanks for the help!
 
Quintana

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OldMedUser said:
Any plant that throws 'nanners that early in flowering is going to produce seeds that will also throw 'nanners early in flowering when grown so to me it's a dead plant growing. That is a hermie trait that will be passed on to about half it's offspring. If it's an important strain then it's seeds can be grown out so you can select ones that don't throw 'nanners early and breed out the trait but otherwise I'd toss it. Or at least quarantine it so it doesn't knock up your other girls while it grows out.

Plants that are near finished when 'nanners show especially if they are grown past their due date to force 'nanners are good candidates for making fem seeds with but not when it's that early in the cycle.

:peace:
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Thanks for the thoughtful info! I have an extra MH light so I just stuck her in a closed room on a different floor. I’ll keep feeding and see what I get. If it’s all seeds then I’ll just throw them in the garden this coming spring and see what I get for some outdoor crop.

like I mentioned in another response, I did have a couple feedings early in bloom where the ph was off. I caught it, but could haven been the culprit. The room is sealed up right from light leaks and I manage the air, RH, and nutrients pretty closely (except for ph apparently). Ha!
 
Quintana

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jondamon said:
Couple of grows ago I had an eleven roses that threw out bananas everywhere around week 5 of 12/12.

didn’t pollenate any of my crop (4plants)

Personally I don’t freak too much about bananas.
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Great info, thanks! Yeah, I’m hoping that I caught it early enough that it didn’t manage to pollinate.
 
NanoGadget

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waterproof808 said:
Disagree. Unless you have no access to better genetics or the plant is extremely special, it better to not select plants that can’t handle the slightest bit of stress.
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mainlining, particularly when performed by someone whose never tried it before, is definitely not 'the slightest bit of stress'. we'd all need more information before actually knowing for sure how much of the blame is on genetics and how much is on plant stress. that being said, bitchy genetics get the boot in my space unless it's a unicorn pheno, so I get your point of view.
 
Quintana

Quintana

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NanoGadget said:
mainlining, particularly when performed by someone whose never tried it before, is definitely not 'the slightest bit of stress'. we'd all need more information before actually knowing for sure how much of the blame is on genetics and how much is on plant stress. that being said, bitchy genetics get the boot in my space unless it's a unicorn pheno, so I get your point of view.
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You’re definitely right. I have not done this mainlining process before. I’m sure there are some things I could do better for sure like maybe spread my defoliation out a little bit more. I’m sure that could have certainly been a stressor.

i’ve grown before in the past and done a great job with my trimming, but this method certainly calls for a bit more defoliation than I’m used to.
 
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