Carne Seca
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That doesn't sound like college. It sounds like Frat School.
what are your guys views on college?
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JustAnotherHead
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As a current UNEMPLOYED college graduate with two degress. B.S. History, B.S. Computer Science. It's a fucking scam. My brother went to M.I.T. and got a Masters at Cornell University. He's a millionaire. He regrets going to college and the associated loans. He started an online business selling products. Completely unrelated to his E.E. and N.E. degrees.
If you take liberal arts like me, you mind as well flush that money down the toilet. If you take a Engineering, or a Science/Math field you'll be alright if you are in the top 20% of your class.
All online colleges are worthless.
cph
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I'm a 34 year old IT manager that didn't go to college and transitioned from an Engineer (14 years) to IT. But you wouldn't consider me? I've seen a lot of "college educated" people come and go that were dumbfounded by what I've taught myself. Some people have to work to survive at a young age, 16 for me, and don't have a chance for college. When I'm looking to hire someone there are far more important qualities than a college degree. IMO.
Total Head
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it really depends on where you go to school and what you study. i know people with college degrees that are as dumb as a bag of sand, yet somehow they "earned" a degree. they have no critical thinking skills, no ability to clearly articulate a thought, and no desire or ability to understand the world around them. they got the degree because they showed up and did the assignments. guess who never gets promoted?
i went to a community college and can say first hand that anyone could get a degree there. a friend of mine was once very proud of himself for finally getting an A on an english writing assignment. i asked to read it and it was the most pathetic piece of shit i ever read. there was bad grammar for which no points were lost, and the paper itself was just a mess. it sounded like someone who listened to "smarty talk" and tried to replicate it without understanding it. his professor was a joke.
i, on the other hand, had a hardass english professor and got the first A he had handed out in almost 3 years. the guy had a 2 page key with size 10 print to decode the corrections he made to papers. do you think the guy doing the hiring is going to be able to distinguish between the two of us? nope. all they know is we both got As in english. try putting that other guy on the phone to talk to a big client. go on. try it.
that being said, the sick sad truth is people doing the hiring need a nice simple checklist when they hire, and a degree is at the top of that list, so it's not pointless in that regard, but not all schools are created equal, so if you want an actual education you can expect to have a stack of loans to pay that may or may not be worth it.
i went to a community college and can say first hand that anyone could get a degree there. a friend of mine was once very proud of himself for finally getting an A on an english writing assignment. i asked to read it and it was the most pathetic piece of shit i ever read. there was bad grammar for which no points were lost, and the paper itself was just a mess. it sounded like someone who listened to "smarty talk" and tried to replicate it without understanding it. his professor was a joke.
i, on the other hand, had a hardass english professor and got the first A he had handed out in almost 3 years. the guy had a 2 page key with size 10 print to decode the corrections he made to papers. do you think the guy doing the hiring is going to be able to distinguish between the two of us? nope. all they know is we both got As in english. try putting that other guy on the phone to talk to a big client. go on. try it.
that being said, the sick sad truth is people doing the hiring need a nice simple checklist when they hire, and a degree is at the top of that list, so it's not pointless in that regard, but not all schools are created equal, so if you want an actual education you can expect to have a stack of loans to pay that may or may not be worth it.
BigJon
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Depends on what you want to do with your life. College degrees mean something.
I skipped college but still lived the "college experience." In my early 20s I worked as a bouncer at a topless bar and I also did freelance gigs escorting girls to bachelor parties. When any of those girls have a birthday party, it gets 10x rowdier than a frat party. Not that I ever been to a frat party. lol ?:/
dank smoker420
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haha this is totally off subject but your name reminds me of this. this guy paid to run this ad how pathetic.
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Carne Seca
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BA142
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It depends on what type of degree you're getting. Some degrees are definitely worth it, but I think a majority of them are becoming a waste.
College was a waste for me when I went...I did two years and that was that. Got decent grades...3.5-4.0 in half of my classes and 2.0-2.5's in the classes I didn't have any interest in (British Literature can suck my balls)
It wasn't for me, but I can always go back and finish if I really want to. You don't have to be 22 to get a college degree.
I got the full 'college experience' though...lots of partying, girls and drugs. That's the best part about college
College was a waste for me when I went...I did two years and that was that. Got decent grades...3.5-4.0 in half of my classes and 2.0-2.5's in the classes I didn't have any interest in (British Literature can suck my balls)
It wasn't for me, but I can always go back and finish if I really want to. You don't have to be 22 to get a college degree.
I got the full 'college experience' though...lots of partying, girls and drugs. That's the best part about college
RyanTheRhino
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Well that's not a good way to view it. First off you don't get to do what you like until at least junior year. You just need to take all the prerequisites before you get to your field of interest.
what major, & associate or bachelor
BigJon
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dank smoker420
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to get a Ph.D. it should take 6 years if you do all your pre req classes in the first 2 years. but that is alot of classes. i didnt mean i want to exactly be a pharmacist i should of said i want to work in the pharacology industry.
Shannon Alexander
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A guy that doesn't care for a girl that he has to teach...You're rightWhat guy would like a girl who loves to be taught new things and is eager for positive reinforcement? Hmmm....
RyanTheRhino
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Edit : become a chemical engineer and make pills in the pharmaceutical industry
bud nugbong
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i went for a few days and didnt like it...i had no idea what i wanted to do, so i didnt waste my time/money. Im doing alright for myself right now but i think i am a more responsible person now (6 years later) I think i could get an education to advance my career. But i still dont know what i would want to do. maybe one day ill figure it out.
RyanTheRhino
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well i would think everyone on this site has some sort of interest in : Biology, Horticulture or agricultural engineering
dank smoker420
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ryan thanks for the chemical engineer suggestion. read about that for a little bit and that is very interesting. i was planning on taking classes in the summer but now idk. im starting to like the idea of a chemical engineer. seems like alot more and more broad options for a career.
RightyMcquick
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being responsible and not giving up, being able to follow through with something you start says a lot about a person. even if your going for lib arts, get the paper, it'll prove to any prospective employer that you can accomplish some hard tasks and that you'll see it through to the end.
also, i believe that college teaches you the balance of being able to party and get your shit done vs. partying too hard and failing at life. imo...
also, i believe that college teaches you the balance of being able to party and get your shit done vs. partying too hard and failing at life. imo...
silasraven
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have as much fun as you possibly can!!! i cant wait to start hitting these books, once that starts i can start smoking again.
smok3h
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College is definitely not pointless. Personally I can't stand that attitude. Not saying that you are like this, but many of the people who think that its pointless are so damn arrogant and are not usually as smart as they think they are. Guess I've just been soured by people who think school is pointless or a waste of time because a few of my extended family members are like that, and sometimes I want to strangle them when they talk about college (or school and teachers in general).
But I digress; I'm a junior now at a university, getting my degree in Journalism with a minor in Creative Writing. I've been to like 5 different schools, and have switched majors about three times. My first few years of college did not go well. I spent way too much time partying and just didn't go to class. My very first semester of school (first time living away from home) I think I literally went to class for two weeks and then stopped going. After trying a few more semesters I eventually dropped out of college because I kept falling into my old bad habits. I then got a job working full-time on the graveyard shift at a casino. I did this for about two years and it really made me realize how much my life would suck if I had to keep doing that for the rest of it. So I decided to go back to school, and have since maintained at least a 3.5 GPA. So yeah, it took me a while to figure things out, but once I did, its been smooth sailing and I can't imagine myself doing anything else.
But I digress; I'm a junior now at a university, getting my degree in Journalism with a minor in Creative Writing. I've been to like 5 different schools, and have switched majors about three times. My first few years of college did not go well. I spent way too much time partying and just didn't go to class. My very first semester of school (first time living away from home) I think I literally went to class for two weeks and then stopped going. After trying a few more semesters I eventually dropped out of college because I kept falling into my old bad habits. I then got a job working full-time on the graveyard shift at a casino. I did this for about two years and it really made me realize how much my life would suck if I had to keep doing that for the rest of it. So I decided to go back to school, and have since maintained at least a 3.5 GPA. So yeah, it took me a while to figure things out, but once I did, its been smooth sailing and I can't imagine myself doing anything else.
^ Also this. Doing well in college is about doing what you're supposed to do. It's about jumping through hoops and following strict guidelines. Employers know this, and when they see you have a college degree, it makes them more inclined to consider you for the job. It tells employers you'll put up with bullshit and dedicate yourself to seeing something through to the end.