What Cured Weed Looks Like

Kalebaiden

Kalebaiden

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getogrow said:
My hears tend to open more to certain folks on here....
What do we got here ? Why do you think its better ? Thanks.

What the world has been doing for years gets rid of all the chlorophyll. Fermenting it will work but it gets rid of too much good stuff, mainly terps. So like i said a while back ....hes saying things that work but he has NO CLUE what or why he is saying the shit so we gotta call him out.

If its brown , there is a VERY good chance its got spores all over it....dont smoke that crap. "fermenting" has to be very controlled to keep the mold out and i dont advice it for anyone ever,
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I mention that it gets rid of more than chlorophyll and you are right about losing Terps. Fermenting does change the flavor profile significantly.

Brown ganja doesn't indicate more or less chance of anything except less chlorophyll. While fermenting isn't something that I do (I use an extended slow curing method) it does remove chlorophyll rapidly (among other things).

For the length of time Bob ferments (his curing stage) spores wouldn't be an issue.

While I wouldn't advise anyone that's very new to the fermentation process to try it without guidance, his method does have scientific merit.

As for his method being the only way, I would disagree whole heartedly. It is one valid method of post harvest treatments among dozens.
 
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Lockedin

Lockedin

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Kalebaiden said:
I mention that it gets rid of more than chlorophyll and you are right about losing Terps. Fermenting does change the flavor profile significantly.

Brown ganja doesn't indicate more or less chance of anything except less chlorophyll. While fermenting isn't something that I do (I use an extended slow curing method) it does remove chlorophyll rapidly (among other things).

For the length of time Bob ferments (his curing stage) spores wouldn't be an issue.

While I wouldn't advise anyone that's very new to the fermentation process to try it without guidance, his method does have scientific merit.

As for his method being the only way, I would disagree whole heartedly. It is one valid method of post harvest treatments among dozens.
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I've had brown weed that was very potent and tasted great, but after smoking I had about 10 minutes to get comfortable - it was a sleep bomb.
In my case, I think it was just old and oxidized.

Is your method similar to usual? - hang / jar - just for an extended period?
Curious because I can see where I'll have opportunity to play with curing after my next harvest.
 
Kalebaiden

Kalebaiden

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Lockedin said:
I've had brown weed that was very potent and tasted great, but after smoking I had about 10 minutes to get comfortable - it was a sleep bomb.
In my case, I think it was just old and oxidized.

Is your method similar to usual? - hang / jar - just for an extended period?
Curious because I can see where I'll have opportunity to play with curing after my next harvest.
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I do a slow hang dry with zero light for 7+ days, depending on how long it takes for the stems to get almost snapable. To much snap and it's too dry.

Then I jar and burp daily in a lightless environment for months.

Zero light allowed because I don't even want the slightest chance of reactivating the chlorophyll.

By the end of the process my ganja is a beautiful browner green, the pistils have contracted and withered forming a cocoon.

I leave some sugar leaf on to help wrap the bud.

This round I might buy some of those humidity packs to see how they work and try on a few jars.
 
DoubleAtotheRON

DoubleAtotheRON

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Kalebaiden said:
I do a slow hang dry with zero light for 7+ days, depending on how long it takes for the stems to get almost snapable. To much snap and it's too dry.

Then I jar and burp daily in a lightless environment for months.

Zero light allowed because I don't even want the slightest chance of reactivating the chlorophyll.

By the end of the process my ganja is a beautiful browner green, the pistils have contracted and withered forming a cocoon.

I leave some sugar leaf on to help wrap the bud.

This round I might buy some of those humidity packs to see how they work and try on a few jars.
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We do a similar process. Chop, bust the fans off, trim the tips of any material without trichs, hang in a dark dry room for 10-12 days at 65 degrees/60%rh (dropping the rh to 50 after a week), then buck and place in CureTubes for another week. Bust out the GreenBroz and run the product. Hand finish, and then back in the tubes to be burped as required. We do use Bovida packs. Fill orders and collect. But, we are just selling Dispensary weed after all.
 
Kalebaiden

Kalebaiden

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DoubleAtotheRON said:
We do a similar process. Chop, bust the fans off, trim the tips of any material without trichs, hang in a dark dry room for 10-12 days at 65 degrees/60%rh (dropping the rh to 50 after a week), then buck and place in CureTubes for another week. Bust out the GreenBroz and run the product. Hand finish, and then back in the tubes to be burped as required. We do use Bovida packs. Fill orders and collect. But, we are just selling Dispensary weed after all.
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I think our biggest difference is the chlorophyll content. I do my best to breakdown all chlorophyll and will spend extra months to do it.
 
Lockedin

Lockedin

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Kalebaiden said:
I do a slow hang dry with zero light for 7+ days, depending on how long it takes for the stems to get almost snapable. To much snap and it's too dry.

Then I jar and burp daily in a lightless environment for months.

Zero light allowed because I don't even want the slightest chance of reactivating the chlorophyll.

By the end of the process my ganja is a beautiful browner green, the pistils have contracted and withered forming a cocoon.

I leave some sugar leaf on to help wrap the bud.

This round I might buy some of those humidity packs to see how they work and try on a few jars.
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Asking because I unintentionally took 8 days to dry - lightless 4x4 tent fans on, lights off - unstable rh.
I'm a noob, so I'm not sure if that is part of why - but I really like my weed! :bigjoint:

I snipped fans (anything w/ a stem) while hanging, but left sugar leaves.
rh kept bouncing - down to 65% in the late afternoon, up to 76% in the morning - I was waiting for 62%, but it wasn't happening. *yes, I know, dehu.
Finally trimmed & jarred on the lowest rh of the 8th day - 65% -- Jars stored in a light proof cabinet - burp-sniff-shuffle-&-feel is only interruption.
The first few days I opened the jars when I woke up, and closed them 4-6 hours later, or more - until they felt drier than on opening.
Every morning was a bit alarming at first - the buds were damp again. Then I read here that when I let the dry air in, the moisture from the core of the bud was being expressed to the exterior until the rh inside the jar was equalized.
My buds we jarred at higher rh - so it took more attention & longer openings at first.
A month later, I burp every few days (uhh, last day was...?) - getting less as I detect less change - but wow, what a difference from "Dry enough to smoke" to jarred for a month.
 
Kalebaiden

Kalebaiden

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Lockedin said:
Asking because I unintentionally took 8 days to dry - lightless 4x4 tent fans on, lights off - unstable rh.
I'm a noob, so I'm not sure if that is part of why - but I really like my weed! :bigjoint:

I snipped fans (anything w/ a stem) while hanging, but left sugar leaves.
rh kept bouncing - down to 65% in the late afternoon, up to 76% in the morning - I was waiting for 62%, but it wasn't happening. *yes, I know, dehu.
Finally trimmed & jarred on the lowest rh of the 8th day - 65% -- Jars stored in a light proof cabinet - burp-sniff-shuffle-&-feel is only interruption.
The first few days I opened the jars when I woke up, and closed them 4-6 hours later, or more - until they felt drier than on opening.
Every morning was a bit alarming at first - the buds were damp again. Then I read here that when I let the dry air in, the moisture from the core of the bud was being expressed to the exterior until the rh inside the jar was equalized.
My buds we jarred at higher rh - so it took more attention & longer openings at first.
A month later, I burp every few days (uhh, last day was...?) - getting less as I detect less change - but wow, what a difference from "Dry enough to smoke" to jarred for a month.
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When you get to cured for 3 months, try a nug and marvel at its magnificence.
 
Kalebaiden

Kalebaiden

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waterproof808 said:
I'd love to hear you explain how chlorophyll is reactivated in dead and dried plant material. Do you have to infect it with zombie blood first?
Imagine all the brown mexi bricks that could have been made greener by just exposing them to the sun for a few hours.
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Does no one understand sarcasm anymore? I've been growing a decade and that pic/post was a spoof on people asking is their plants are done.

Anyone that believes otherwise is a fool.

As for chlorophyll reactivating, I was trying to drive home the point of how dark I keep it when I'm drying and curing.

You act like someone that needs constant approval and the accolades of others. I don't need that or understand why you do.
 
bgmike8

bgmike8

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Lockedin said:
Curiosity is still piqued. Maybe it's because I just opened a new jar from a different pheno of my last harvest - very heady lol.

Anyway, is this cure related at all to brick weed?
Growing up in SoCal, I'm one of those who has fond memories of the better brick weed I got - very stony couchlock, the best didn't look that great - hard brown nuggets that break into chunks, the taste was a melange of spices & weed funk - not NorCal Skunk funk, but still a funk.
Really an appearance, taste and stone of it's own, if it's what I'm thinking of.

edit - the flipside was bad brick weed - stinky, lumber (not stems), huge black seeds & ammonia - probably toxic.

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Chances are you've heard of the infamous brick weed. While it's not as common anymore, it was once one of the most popular types of cannabis around.
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I used to move 20 a week of mexican brick weed...
 
getogrow

getogrow

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Kalebaiden said:
Brown ganja doesn't indicate more or less chance of anything except less chlorophyll. While fermenting isn't something that I do (I use an extended slow curing method) it does remove chlorophyll rapidly (among other things).

For the length of time Bob ferments (his curing stage) spores wouldn't be an issue.
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I meant overall....not just bobs trash. If weed is brown , its suspect. If you know the grower who can explain it is one thing but to just say brown is not an indicator is a pretty bold statement. Brown is a great indicator of a shitty cure , a shitty dry , mold spores , ammonia smells and this is a lot more common then just ripping the chlorophyll out in one day. (like most folks , thuis is the only time they will ever hear of this horrible way of drying.) Most growers read a lot more about getting rid of chlorophyll then they do about "aging tobacco" so hes going backwards here. (getting rid of the chlorophyll is the same in every plant for the most part so no need in learning backwards... )

Has science changed in the last 10 years ? i wouldnt doubt it as we dont know much about the plant yet....were still learning. 10 years ago , a "cure" had a lot more to it then just getting rid of chlorophyll. As i recall , a lot of things changed within the flower as it was curing. I also recall reading something that said once the flower is down to 60 rh or whatever the number is ..... its done and cannot be changed anymore (for the good) Which is why we take so long to cure ? Chlorophyll cannot be the only factor or we would be smoking within a week. (i am not talking about terps either cause we already covered that one)
you also mentioned some old weed being better and i wondered what the professor told you that confirmed it was better?
Thanks for your time.
 
Lockedin

Lockedin

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getogrow said:
I meant overall....
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Gotta agree there, for most part - if it's brown, put it down.

Brown "Standard"
But I still gotta say that I've had "standard cured" (for lack of a better term) weed that was the color of medium tobacco, but structurally what we look for - a dense, sparkly spear - but from stem to calyx it was that same tone of brown. No scent that I remember - but both myself and the room were very cloudy at the time. Very stony, nothing TOO exotic or potent, but that brown was very strange.

Bob's
And, as I've said before, I've had weed that appeared identical to Bob's that was the heaviest couchlock I've ever had, but not sleepy, with a serious case of the giggles. Yes, compared to today, the "aroma" was off, but thankfully faint. The taste was a lot of eastern spices on top of FUNK - it left a taste in your mouth...like a nasty blunt found under the bed wrapped in 3x used hiking socks... :spew:
But that stone is pretty amazing on the well cured nuggets.

By no means am I saying that brick weed is superior, but in a Budweiser world, the occasional Rauchbier (Smoke Beer) is a fun diversion.*
I might try it next harvest, but I'd be more likely to try the corn cob curing thing - In that video, I could hear that first rip hit his frontal lobe. :D
And - ever since discovering that Full melt hash, RSO & FSCO actually do ease my back - I'm open to trying different ways to medicate.

*Ironic analogy - Alcohol & I parted ways years ago. :bigjoint:
 
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