NietzscheKeen
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LOL Zaehet... Does she know she's a porno star?
What do you know about aliens?
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NietzscheKeen
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Most "critical thinkers" would suspend judgment until they get further evidence. It's ok to say that you don't know what you saw.
PinkFloyd426
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I just ran across this thread. I have never posted this on the internet but what the hell....
I am going to answer the question stated here "What do you know about aliens".
I feel like an idiot telling it here (of all places), when only a few in my life know this, but again, what the hell...and I'm curious as to the reactions, etc.
I will try to keep it short mainly since I will always think the ones that I have told this to in the past probably think I'm crazy, so whats the use.
1962, I think the starting of summer. I am 7 years old. My parents just bought a house, and it was the first night there (I think).
I had no idea what our yard looked like yet. Never went outside in the first days we were there.
I have 2 younger brothers and a sister. Us boys had to share a room till years later an addition was built on the house.
The head of my bed was directly under a window that looked out into our back yard. My brothers had to use a bunk bed elsewhere in the room.
Something woke me up, or I woke up for whatever reason, and the room was bright. For some reason I popped my head up and immediately looked out the window. I remember this so clear to this day. Our whole yard was bright. Like it was daylight. We had a tree line at the end of our yard separating someone else back yard from ours. I cant remember if the other back yard was bright/lit up, but I do remember seeing the trees. I also remember seeing a tower looking thing on the right side of our yard. This later I find out is an antenna tower for a Ham radio operator who's yard also butted ours. A little to the left of the tower there was 3 small things, creatures, aliens, whatever you want to call them. I remember the one in the middle was a little shorter than the other two. I remember they looked white'ish like gray to me. They didnt have clothes for sure...it was just all white like. Cant recall ears of nose on any of these things. If they did have them I don't remember it. These looked like something I have never seen before.
Then my memory of this gets sketchy/iffy. I think I was told...or heard, "not to worry". And that was it. I went back to sleep (or don't remember any more than that) Cant say if one of them told me this or not. I don't remember seeing anything that looked like a mouth...or see them say it with gestures or anything...they just stood there the whole time, and I think never moved while my head was up looking out the window. I do know they saw me and was looking at me. Either way I think I did hear it. It just isn't clear in my brain like the rest of the incident is to this day.
Years go by...like 26-30 some years roughly. I am at a family get together. The subject of UFO's and stuff is brought up. I tell my family for the first time what I saw, or dreamed.
I mentioned everything I told here, and the fact that once I realized what our back yard looked like, that it was exactly as I recall it the night I was awakened (keeping in mind I had never seen the yard at that point or been out in it) The tower was there, the tree line, and later my father realized there was a big indentation in the ground close to where the 3 things were standing. (he said he heard from a neighbor that a horse was buried there prior to us moving there.
One of my brothers says he saw the same thing, and remembers it well, and said there was 3 of them before I mentioned there was 3. I dont know if he is telling the truth or not. I don't remember him awake with me looking out the window but who knows.
Anyway that's pretty much my story. I know I wasn't dreaming. I was 7 years old...how the hell did I know what "beings" look like at my age?
The things I saw is exactly what all the drawings are of aliens that you see everywhere now...exactly!
It's weird and sometimes when I think about it...and that isnt often...I wonder if I was dreaming. But how? I saw my yard for the first time. We ended up living there for 28 years, and the yard I saw was my yard indeed. The "beings" I saw is what the typical drawing of an alien is. And I don't know how I would have conjured that up in my 7 year old brain.
So there you have it. Thats my story and I'm sticking with it. (my brother swears to his story, but I don't recall him being awake...but maybe he was?)
Call me weird, BS'er, or whatever. I feel lucky this happened along with feeling strange about it. I think it was real, but it might have been a dream to...I don't know. But I knew what my yard and surrounding looked like before I ever stepped foot on it
Its weird, but I feel lucky that this happened to me whether a dream or not.
I am going to answer the question stated here "What do you know about aliens".
I feel like an idiot telling it here (of all places), when only a few in my life know this, but again, what the hell...and I'm curious as to the reactions, etc.
I will try to keep it short mainly since I will always think the ones that I have told this to in the past probably think I'm crazy, so whats the use.
1962, I think the starting of summer. I am 7 years old. My parents just bought a house, and it was the first night there (I think).
I had no idea what our yard looked like yet. Never went outside in the first days we were there.
I have 2 younger brothers and a sister. Us boys had to share a room till years later an addition was built on the house.
The head of my bed was directly under a window that looked out into our back yard. My brothers had to use a bunk bed elsewhere in the room.
Something woke me up, or I woke up for whatever reason, and the room was bright. For some reason I popped my head up and immediately looked out the window. I remember this so clear to this day. Our whole yard was bright. Like it was daylight. We had a tree line at the end of our yard separating someone else back yard from ours. I cant remember if the other back yard was bright/lit up, but I do remember seeing the trees. I also remember seeing a tower looking thing on the right side of our yard. This later I find out is an antenna tower for a Ham radio operator who's yard also butted ours. A little to the left of the tower there was 3 small things, creatures, aliens, whatever you want to call them. I remember the one in the middle was a little shorter than the other two. I remember they looked white'ish like gray to me. They didnt have clothes for sure...it was just all white like. Cant recall ears of nose on any of these things. If they did have them I don't remember it. These looked like something I have never seen before.
Then my memory of this gets sketchy/iffy. I think I was told...or heard, "not to worry". And that was it. I went back to sleep (or don't remember any more than that) Cant say if one of them told me this or not. I don't remember seeing anything that looked like a mouth...or see them say it with gestures or anything...they just stood there the whole time, and I think never moved while my head was up looking out the window. I do know they saw me and was looking at me. Either way I think I did hear it. It just isn't clear in my brain like the rest of the incident is to this day.
Years go by...like 26-30 some years roughly. I am at a family get together. The subject of UFO's and stuff is brought up. I tell my family for the first time what I saw, or dreamed.
I mentioned everything I told here, and the fact that once I realized what our back yard looked like, that it was exactly as I recall it the night I was awakened (keeping in mind I had never seen the yard at that point or been out in it) The tower was there, the tree line, and later my father realized there was a big indentation in the ground close to where the 3 things were standing. (he said he heard from a neighbor that a horse was buried there prior to us moving there.
One of my brothers says he saw the same thing, and remembers it well, and said there was 3 of them before I mentioned there was 3. I dont know if he is telling the truth or not. I don't remember him awake with me looking out the window but who knows.
Anyway that's pretty much my story. I know I wasn't dreaming. I was 7 years old...how the hell did I know what "beings" look like at my age?
The things I saw is exactly what all the drawings are of aliens that you see everywhere now...exactly!
It's weird and sometimes when I think about it...and that isnt often...I wonder if I was dreaming. But how? I saw my yard for the first time. We ended up living there for 28 years, and the yard I saw was my yard indeed. The "beings" I saw is what the typical drawing of an alien is. And I don't know how I would have conjured that up in my 7 year old brain.
So there you have it. Thats my story and I'm sticking with it. (my brother swears to his story, but I don't recall him being awake...but maybe he was?)
Call me weird, BS'er, or whatever. I feel lucky this happened along with feeling strange about it. I think it was real, but it might have been a dream to...I don't know. But I knew what my yard and surrounding looked like before I ever stepped foot on it
Its weird, but I feel lucky that this happened to me whether a dream or not.
Padawanbater2
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A 2 decade old + memory is hardly enough to conclude anything, the only logical conclusion you can come to is "I don't know"
tyler.durden
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^^ Was the it the night of October 31st? J/K. The mind doesn't have a place where memories are stored, that have to be recreated each time we remember something, and yours wasn't even fully developed at that age. My sister has a mind that frequently just makes up memories in great detail. We'll be sitting around the table at holidays, and she'll say, 'Do you remember that time when we...', and proceeds to recall something that no one else remembers at all. In some of these instances she'll insist certain people were there when they weren't even in the Country during that time. Some people's minds have gone so far as to make up false memories of sexual abuse as children, when none had ever taken place. When unsure about the reality of a situation, Occam's razor is a powerful tool. It states that the explanation that makes the fewest assumptions is probably the correct one. So, is it more likely that aliens travelled billions of miles to get to our planet to congregate in your back yard (making no attempt to hide their presence even with advanced technology), or that a seven year old (and maybe his brother) are remembering events inaccurately? None of us know, but my money's on the latter...
ineverveg
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I myself have always thought aliens to be total horseshit until i smoked DMT LMAO,
Once anyone smokes dmt they will ALL realize what the fuck is going down! aliens are real man, they are mostly very nice encounters whilst on DMT and i feel like david icke telling folk but i challenge anyone to purchase some DMT and smoke it then judge for yourself that there's no such thing as aliens
''One of the most remarkable features of the DMT experience is the frequency with which users encounter non-human intelligences, often resembling aliens. Even more remarkably, some users come away from these encounters convinced that these entities are somehow real (Strassman, 2001). The psychological aspects of such experiences have not yet been adequately explored by scientific researchers''
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Once anyone smokes dmt they will ALL realize what the fuck is going down! aliens are real man, they are mostly very nice encounters whilst on DMT and i feel like david icke telling folk but i challenge anyone to purchase some DMT and smoke it then judge for yourself that there's no such thing as aliens
''One of the most remarkable features of the DMT experience is the frequency with which users encounter non-human intelligences, often resembling aliens. Even more remarkably, some users come away from these encounters convinced that these entities are somehow real (Strassman, 2001). The psychological aspects of such experiences have not yet been adequately explored by scientific researchers''
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http://youtu.be/pI5P2n3XFtA
Sand4x105
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The 'Here After'... After life... the Universe is forever expanding... And this is what I think is really happening, and it is completely as plausible as God, Heaven, and The Bible...
We are living in an Alien Ant Farm...
Think about it... The Aliens [god] built this huge [huge for us, microscopic to the Aliens...]
Bio-Sphere type [similar to a sand box] somewhere in their world, for the young aliens to play with...
Sometimes the aliens mess with us [sending in invisible orbs to fly around]..Ghosts, Spirits are added to our mix for the enjoyment of the aliens.
Think about some ants, living in the Sahara Desert. For these ants, the other side of their world, would be out of reach,
just like the other side of our galaxy is out of reach for us. Since our universe is purported to be EXPANDING... well it is.
Our universe is expanding because the Alien [god] wants us here on Earth to seek out the further points of our reality...
We will never reach the end of space, because the Aliens, will just add on to our outer limits...
Remember if you had an ant farm as a kid, you might drop some bad stuff on the ants just to see how they might react.
The Aliens drop bad stuff on Earth, to see if us humans [ants] will be able to handle it [Earth Quakes/Nukes/Famine/Floods/Title Waves...etc]
God is a big Alien, watching over us... God's Sons are all seeing of our actions [it's their ant farm], they see us all... through the worm hole...
When the Aliens get bored with everyday life on Earth, they mess with us [Crazy nuke dictators]...
We are not in control of our own lives, the Alien's watch over us, and cause good to come to the good [karma], and bad always happens to those of us that do bad...
All religion's have a god like father that watches over us... Some of us may have even been 'abducted' by the aliens, to be operated on us, to 'fix' us...
The Alien 'Gods' are basically good... and they want us to be good also...
Everything in life is predestined... Your subconscious mind has already lived this life, it was programed into your DNA by the Alien 'god'.
That's why we all feel a deja vu...We have already lived this life... The Aliens are allowing us to get it right... If we get it right, we get another life to live again...
If we get it wrong.... There is no tomorrow... Which for the Aliens is a nano second... For us, it could be a Ten Thousand years....
If we the Ants, go bad, and try to destroy our Earth, then that would already be in the Master Aliens plan. They will just rebuild a better Earth....
Don't worry... Give up control to the Aliens to stay in control of your life... It's really that simple...
Word: Forever..... and ever... Happy ever after...
We are living in an Alien Ant Farm...
Think about it... The Aliens [god] built this huge [huge for us, microscopic to the Aliens...]
Bio-Sphere type [similar to a sand box] somewhere in their world, for the young aliens to play with...
Sometimes the aliens mess with us [sending in invisible orbs to fly around]..Ghosts, Spirits are added to our mix for the enjoyment of the aliens.
Think about some ants, living in the Sahara Desert. For these ants, the other side of their world, would be out of reach,
just like the other side of our galaxy is out of reach for us. Since our universe is purported to be EXPANDING... well it is.
Our universe is expanding because the Alien [god] wants us here on Earth to seek out the further points of our reality...
We will never reach the end of space, because the Aliens, will just add on to our outer limits...
Remember if you had an ant farm as a kid, you might drop some bad stuff on the ants just to see how they might react.
The Aliens drop bad stuff on Earth, to see if us humans [ants] will be able to handle it [Earth Quakes/Nukes/Famine/Floods/Title Waves...etc]
God is a big Alien, watching over us... God's Sons are all seeing of our actions [it's their ant farm], they see us all... through the worm hole...
When the Aliens get bored with everyday life on Earth, they mess with us [Crazy nuke dictators]...
We are not in control of our own lives, the Alien's watch over us, and cause good to come to the good [karma], and bad always happens to those of us that do bad...
All religion's have a god like father that watches over us... Some of us may have even been 'abducted' by the aliens, to be operated on us, to 'fix' us...
The Alien 'Gods' are basically good... and they want us to be good also...
Everything in life is predestined... Your subconscious mind has already lived this life, it was programed into your DNA by the Alien 'god'.
That's why we all feel a deja vu...We have already lived this life... The Aliens are allowing us to get it right... If we get it right, we get another life to live again...
If we get it wrong.... There is no tomorrow... Which for the Aliens is a nano second... For us, it could be a Ten Thousand years....
If we the Ants, go bad, and try to destroy our Earth, then that would already be in the Master Aliens plan. They will just rebuild a better Earth....
Don't worry... Give up control to the Aliens to stay in control of your life... It's really that simple...
Word: Forever..... and ever... Happy ever after...
Beefbisquit
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Chief Walkin Eagle
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Im the king ant of my sand castle, thank you very much! Was kinda cool to think about though.
tyler.durden
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DMT is a psychedelic, and psychedelics produce hallucinations. Hallucinations are, by definition, experiences that don't take place in objective reality. IOW, they are not real -I myself have always thought aliens to be total horseshit until i smoked DMT LMAO,
Once anyone smokes dmt they will ALL realize what the fuck is going down! aliens are real man, they are mostly very nice encounters whilst on DMT and i feel like david icke telling folk but i challenge anyone to purchase some DMT and smoke it then judge for yourself that there's no such thing as aliens
''One of the most remarkable features of the DMT experience is the frequency with which users encounter non-human intelligences, often resembling aliens. Even more remarkably, some users come away from these encounters convinced that these entities are somehow real (Strassman, 2001). The psychological aspects of such experiences have not yet been adequately explored by scientific researchers''
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http://youtu.be/pI5P2n3XFtA
hal·lu·ci·na·tion (h
b. The objects or events so perceived.
2. A false or mistaken idea; a delusion.
Beefbisquit
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Great point, T.D.DMT is a psychedelic, and psychedelics produce hallucinations. Hallucinations are, by definition, experiences that don't take place in objective reality. IOW, they are not real -
hal·lu·ci·na·tion (h-ls-nshn)n.1. a. Perception of visual, auditory, tactile, olfactory, or gustatory experiences without an external stimulus and with a compelling sense of their reality, usually resulting from a mental disorder or as a response to a drug.
b. The objects or events so perceived.
2. A false or mistaken idea; a delusion.
I've read this responses like Ineverveg's, and it always did make me chuckle.
How much useful knowledge about reality can you draw from a hallucination that only exists inside your head? Zero, it's called imagination.
If people think that their imagination is going to give them testable information that pertains to reality, they are sadly mistaken.
Padawanbater2
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They touch on that idea in this podcast, I don't know exactly where, but basically the argument is that even if you have some kind of experience that takes place inside your mind, whatever knowledge you may or may not have gained or been exposed to because of that experience is valuable in the same kind of way it would be valuable if you gained it through some other means
They touch on that idea in this podcast, I don't know exactly where, but basically the argument is that even if you have some kind of experience that takes place inside your mind, whatever knowledge you may or may not have gained or been exposed to because of that experience is valuable in the same kind of way it would be valuable if you gained it through some other means
Chief Walkin Eagle
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He mentions that in a couple podcasts. I dont think DMT should be completely associated with the term hallucination, nah, its definitely above that. I wish there were more studies on DMT and that Dr. Strassman didnt get freaked out from the results of his findings. Two people talking to the same godly being at the same time, alien beings saying "We're so glad you've discovered this technology!", that stuff shouldnt of scared him away.
I've always wondered, what is it you like about Joe, Pad? He seems like the perfect person for you to hate on. He believes in souls, gods, aliens, ancient aliens and another advanced ancient culture, Sumarians discovered Pluto, bigfoot, he believes in conspiracy theories, hes a "GMO truther" and a whole bunch of other crazy stuff. Sure he says things like "I could be wrong" but you can tell hes almost certain of these things because of his passion for them. According to your world view, Joe is doing a major disservice to humanity by letting this information spread across millions of people, I'm a result of that lol.
I've always wondered, what is it you like about Joe, Pad? He seems like the perfect person for you to hate on. He believes in souls, gods, aliens, ancient aliens and another advanced ancient culture, Sumarians discovered Pluto, bigfoot, he believes in conspiracy theories, hes a "GMO truther" and a whole bunch of other crazy stuff. Sure he says things like "I could be wrong" but you can tell hes almost certain of these things because of his passion for them. According to your world view, Joe is doing a major disservice to humanity by letting this information spread across millions of people, I'm a result of that lol.
Chronic Masterbator
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I love science and spirituality equally. I always do that with those two. Edison and Einstein. I wonder what kind of weed they could have bred.Even more amazing still, since it was Edison, not Einstein, that is credited with inventing the incandescent light bulb. You love that science, huh?
tyler.durden
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He may have been freaked out by the lack of evidence for his hypotheses...
Gotta agree with most of that, I don't really get his appeal...
tyler.durden
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It seems that these people believe humans possess some sort of inate, deep knowledge in our minds without spending the effort to achieve that knowledge from objective reality, and all we need are the right things (spirituality, dmt, aliens, ninjitsu, etc.) to access it. I'm not sure why they want this to be true; are they too lazy to gain knowledge through effort? Do they not like what objective reality shows them? Do these ideas just seem cooler than real life? I'm trying to understand...
Heisenberg
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Joe has some really insightful and occasionally profound things to say about personal motivation and taking control of life. I think the reason many skeptics do not get huffy about Joe is because he is simply curious and looking for answers. He has none of the attitude that science is biased and he does not presume to know more than the experts about scientific subjects. IOW he doesn't take cheap shots at science to help elevate his views. He doesn't dismiss doubt as militant atheism, or claim scientists are scared to shake up their world view, ect.
Chief Walkin Eagle
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I dont think he made a hypotheses, I could be wrong. He just wanted to see the medical benefits of DMT and this stuff just freaked him out too much. I THINK it turned him from atheist to agnostic, I cant remember though.
ineverveg
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pedantic cut and paste btw, however if you ever take DMT by any means of administration you will see aliens,i'm assuming you never have though judging by the misinformed research you present into the discussion.DMT is a psychedelic, and psychedelics produce hallucinations. Hallucinations are, by definition, experiences that don't take place in objective reality. IOW, they are not real -
hal·lu·ci·na·tion (h-ls-nshn)n.1. a. Perception of visual, auditory, tactile, olfactory, or gustatory experiences without an external stimulus and with a compelling sense of their reality, usually resulting from a mental disorder or as a response to a drug.
b. The objects or events so perceived.
2. A false or mistaken idea; a delusion.
lsd,mushrooms,salvia,mescaline ect ect ect are not well known for seeing aliens nor does EVERYBODY whom takes these psychedelics report the same thing.
to me its very strange that a huge percentage of DMT experiences involve a presence of some kind, there are a few different perceptions of what the presence is but even if they are elves, that's still aliens, i have taken most psychedelics in my time and never seen any actual hal·lu·ci·na·tions, just distortions of what is actually there! hallucinations are not really there at all,total fabrications made by the mind but you have to ask the question of why does this molecule that is inside all of us , when smoked/ingested/injected,or analized, makes EVERYONE (not just a few oddballs ) ,see the same exact thing
could you explain that to me with a science cut and paste please?
ineverveg
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yes but have you tried it? dont think you have, but yet still able to discount it!
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