What has Trump done to this country?

DIY-HP-LED

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Watch Donald's interview today, tell me if he intends to steal the election if he can and will fuck with the results as much as possible. Impeach Donald's brain and cock, Bill Barr, he will be helpless without him. Bill is the weak link in his plan, Bill is vulnerable and is gonna have his head chopped off before the election, count on it, you really are in this case.
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President Donald Trump Continues To Undermine Legitimacy Of 2020 Election | MTP Daily | MSNBC

President Trump undermines the legitimacy of election as unemployment insurance is set to expire and coronavirus deaths surpass 154,000. Chuck Todd says, “We're following a number of crises facing this presidency.”
 
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VILEPLUME

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speaking of which, why are they still in jail? this was brought to Attorney Barr's attention 'he moved on him; he moved on Roger Stone like a bitch'. ..it was pointed out that basically no one has been let out

rent must be due for the private prisons.
If you haven't noticed, rich people are above the law in America. Not even joking.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Another desperate criminal looking to avoid an indictment to watch out for. He has security contracts and it would be a real good idea for the house to put him on the hot seat. Perhaps some of the trouble is with one of his "sub contractors" I'm sure he carefully vettes prospective employees for things like military experience and swastika tattoos. Bill Barr's goon squad looks like an all whites club, I wonder if they were vetted too, or just selected by skin color.
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War Contractor Erik Prince Has Close Ties to White House & Report Reveals His Dirty Tricks for Trump
In Part 2 of our interview with The Intercept’s investigative reporter Matthew Cole, he examines in detail Erik Prince’s ties to the Trump administration. This comes as a new report by The New York Times reveals how Prince, the founder of the mercenary firm Blackwater and brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, helped recruit former spies to infiltrate and gather intelligence about Democratic campaigns and labor organizations, including the American Federation of Teachers.
 

bundee1

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Liberal democracy in action, here is the leader of my party and country, prime minister Trudeau on the hot seat with the opposition going at him. He has a minority government and depends on other patties to hold power, a majority of votes in parliament calls the enquiry and can turf him. I believe this was a mistake of judgement, in an effort to help people quickly, a typical road to Hell paved with good intentions, a mistake caused by being motivated by compassion, happens to me too. We will see what the facts show and if anybody lies to cover up.
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Trudeau grilled at committee investigating WE Charity controversy
Is this like George Costanza's human fund?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Is this like George Costanza's human fund?
Seems two brothers were conning people, more is coming out, everybody is on the hot seat and no one is above the law. I can forgive mistakes in judgement made in a rush to help, moral and ethical failings not so much. I will be keeping an eye on it, they have a minority government and that means accountability.
 

Fogdog

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Liberal democracy in action, here is the leader of my party and country, prime minister Trudeau on the hot seat with the opposition going at him. He has a minority government and depends on other patties to hold power, a majority of votes in parliament calls the enquiry and can turf him. I believe this was a mistake of judgement, in an effort to help people quickly, a typical road to Hell paved with good intentions, a mistake caused by being motivated by compassion, happens to me too. We will see what the facts show and if anybody lies to cover up.
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Trudeau grilled at committee investigating WE Charity controversy
So, how clean are conservatives? Is this like Republicans clutching pearls over some tempest in a teapot while they do the real damage?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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So, how clean are conservatives? Is this like Republicans clutching pearls over some tempest in a teapot while they do the real damage?
It's like if Obama had put his hand in the cookie jar with a republican house and senate. Do you think he would be that stupid? He wasn't because he knew they near fainted when he wore a tan suit out of season and who can forget his wife's toned arms...
 

Fogdog

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Trump Repub tries to lecture Dr. Fauci about hydroxychloroquine ..... fails miserably.

Well, dang.

Two minutes of good video and a talking head takes over to tell us what to think.

That said, those first two minutes were golden and the talking head does a good job of describing why that congressman -- 4-year a poly sci graduate -- would HAVE to take on a towering figure in viral epidemiology on a subject that was clearly not his strong suit.

That said, I run into this in my line of work all the time. It's common. I don't know what the answer is. All I know is, when the expert reviews the work and his results don't agree with what somebody wants to hear they try to shoot the messenger. Fauci is amazing in his ability to get hit by a pitch and not show how much it hurts.
 

Fogdog

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Seems two brothers were conning people, more is coming out, everybody is on the hot seat and no one is above the law. I can forgive mistakes in judgement made in a rush to help, moral and ethical failings not so much. I will be keeping an eye on it, they have a minority government and that means accountability.
Burisma?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Kinda like that, only in this case emergency pandemic help was distributed by a "charity" (read the law carefully) to students to assist them. Money was skimmed of the top, as I recall the government was scrambling with a pandemic response trying to meet many needs, mistakes and errors of judgement happen in such circumstances. This is my understanding thus far, though I'm not looking closely yet, if any one is guilty of a moral, ethical or legal issue, let the chips fall where they may. The Tory government was far more corrupt and illiberal than this one, lots of those fuckers were busted, I worked to remove them from office and put the liberals in. Justin has a good heart or can fake it very well, he is his father's son in many ways, he has guts and Donald senses it, he never fucked with him much, he didn't smell any weakness to exploit, a good sign.
 

Fogdog

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Kinda like that, only in this case emergency pandemic help was distributed by a "charity" (read the law carefully) to students to assist them. Money was skimmed of the top, as I recall the government was scrambling with a pandemic response trying to meet many needs, mistakes and errors of judgement happen in such circumstances. This is my understanding thus far, though I'm not looking closely yet, if any one is guilty of a moral, ethical or legal issue, let the chips fall where they may. The Tory government was far more corrupt and illiberal than this one, lots of those fuckers were busted, I worked to remove them from office and put the liberals in. Justin has a good heart or can fake it very well, he is his father's son in many ways, he has guts and Donald senses it, he never fucked with him much, he didn't smell any weakness to exploit, a good sign.
Ohhh, so you mean like what happened right in front of all of us in the US only ten times worse? When most of the money intended for small businesses went to big ones and we didn't say squat because Trump's administration did not provide transparency until the crimes were properly covered up? You mean like that?

Yeah, I hope everybody who steals money meant to keep people going in these hard times gets what's coming to them. Every time a scandal like that hits a Democrat I say the same thing. If they did something wrong, I hope they fry. Why don't conservatives feel the same way?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Why don't conservatives feel the same way?
You need to ask? Every country has them, in most places the overt racism and bigotry has been attenuated or removed. Economic policy is always a left vs right issue a poor/ middle class issue vs rich/connected in a liberal democracy, in America this battle will be fought out with in the democratic party. It is also linked to social services and healthcare, there was a reason the image of the "black welfare queen was used", because conservatives are against social services, they attract a lot of racists everywhere. Immigrants are alway getting a free ride and more benefits than Canadians etc, in America black folks might get some, these "feelings" drive rationalisations about the value of public healthcare. The greed driven like their employer plans even though they would get a truly sweet deal under a public system Like i did while working with extra benefits layered on top.

Economic policy, bigotry and racism are all bound up and impediments to forming a community where we care about other people's outcomes and care for the less fortunate properly. Priorities become distorted and the will of the people thwarted by racism, bigotry, corruption and greed, that's why they are vices.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Yer Lawyer called again about Donald's call to "delay" the election.
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Trump Floats Election Delay--Constitution and Federal Law Sink the Idea

Donald Trump has suggested he might try to delay the presidential election date of November 3. He has also suggested he might not accept the results of the election in the event he loses. The problem is both the federal law and the Constitution are not on his side. Even more surprisingly, the Republican leadership in the Senate has pushed back in a rare break from Trump. Of course, folks like Mike Pompeo and Bill Barr seem all too ready to fall in line with Trump's illegal/unconstitutional proposals.

Here's why 1. Trump's election delay scheme will fail; 2. his threat to reject the election results and remain in the White House is purse folly; and 3. No one will ever accuse Bill Barr of ever being law-abiding or Mike Pompeo of being courageous.
 

Fogdog

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Yer Lawyer called again about Donald's call to "delay" the election.
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Trump Floats Election Delay--Constitution and Federal Law Sink the Idea

Donald Trump has suggested he might try to delay the presidential election date of November 3. He has also suggested he might not accept the results of the election in the event he loses. The problem is both the federal law and the Constitution are not on his side. Even more surprisingly, the Republican leadership in the Senate has pushed back in a rare break from Trump. Of course, folks like Mike Pompeo and Bill Barr seem all too ready to fall in line with Trump's illegal/unconstitutional proposals.

Here's why 1. Trump's election delay scheme will fail; 2. his threat to reject the election results and remain in the White House is purse folly; and 3. No one will ever accuse Bill Barr of ever being law-abiding or Mike Pompeo of being courageous.
the game is to discredit the election in an attempt to overturn it. He's releasing chaff like the election delay while the main target --a target he hit, by the way-- is mail in ballots, which really are important to this election.
 
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