What makes OG strains potent

Spawned

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Hey guys I've grown out a few different stains and am pretty decent but nothing ever compares to the og strains that I have smoked. Some of them have been from Cali and its straight knockout. I was wondering what makes it so potent other than thc being in the 20%. Is it high in cbn or other cannabinoids?
 

foreverflyhi

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Hey guys I've grown out a few different stains and am pretty decent but nothing ever compares to the og strains that I have smoked. Some of them have been from Cali and its straight knockout. I was wondering what makes it so potent other than thc being in the 20%. Is it high in cbn or other cannabinoids?
Other then gentics, The grower is what makes it bomb. We here in Cali are some of the best cultivators of cannabis in the world. Mix that with dank OG, nothing compares.
no offense to other strains/growers or other places other then Cali.
 

Spawned

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Yeah I kno, my area is getting flooded with og kush and la confidential from Cali and its actually causing problems with prices in the area and creating issues with people who already grow in the area. I know 90% lies in the genetics so with that said, I've picked up a few different strains of og and plan on perfecting it. I just wasn't sure if it was higher in certain cannabinoids than other strains.
 

Jogro

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Hey guys I've grown out a few different stains and am pretty decent but nothing ever compares to the og strains that I have smoked. Some of them have been from Cali and its straight knockout. I was wondering what makes it so potent other than thc being in the 20%. Is it high in cbn or other cannabinoids?
Begging the question, the OGs are so good mostly because of their genetics. A good grower helps to realize the potential of the genetics, of course, but most of it is what they're growing, not how.

Specifically, its trichrome production that starts early in flowering and high trichrome density (ie number of trichromes per square millimeter of flower surface area). These two things together lead to high cannabinoid content per trichrome and lots of trichromes coating each bud, together adding up to high cannabinoids content per bud.

If you're asking about QUALITY of the high, that's all about cannabinoid ratios.

If you look at the numbers, most of these OG strains have about 20% THC (give or take a few points) and then about 0.5-1% CBD. Its the CBD that prolongs the high and gives the indica-characteristic "stony" quality that medical users like.

Other indica-type strains may have the same ratios, so you'll get the same effect, just with absolutely lower cannabinoid content, you'll have to smoke proportionately more bud to get there.
 

Jogro

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Yeah I kno, my area is getting flooded with og kush and la confidential from Cali and its actually causing problems with prices in the area and creating issues with people who already grow in the area.
You mean prices are going DOWN?

I can see how that might be problematic for growers who are relying on the black market to keep the prices for their flowers artificially high, but I don't see how its a problem for consumers!

Again, its the old "Baptists and Bootleggers" issue from the alcohol prohibition era. The bootleggers (who, in this case are growers) want cannabis to stay illegal. . .it helps maximize profits.
 

foreverflyhi

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Agree with jogro, however I do believe that it's how the grower grows the OG that gives it it's full potential. Once again no diss to hydro synthetic growers, but compare organic grown soil ogs with synthetic hydro OG, well HA once again no comparison. Trust me I've tried it all and seen it all, and organic soil grown OG are by far superior over any other method grown OG. Just my 99 cents.
 

Spawned

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Thanks, yeah its driving prices down for people who are locally growing, for instance a good price for an ounce of nl or ww in the area used to be around 300 which used to be a good deal, since packages of og and la con are coming in and are twice as potent are being sold around 240/ounce.

Im a coco grower and use house and garden line with cannazyme and just have started perfecting it but I truly want to unlock the potential of og to keep up with competiton. Maybe someone can point me in the right direction?
 

ounevinsmoke

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Thanks, yeah its driving prices down for people who are locally growing, for instance a good price for an ounce of nl or ww in the area used to be around 300 which used to be a good deal, since packages of og and la con are coming in and are twice as potent are being sold around 240/ounce.

Im a coco grower and use house and garden line with cannazyme and just have started perfecting it but I truly want to unlock the potential of og to keep up with competiton. Maybe someone can point me in the right direction?
Dont know about OG's being twice as potent as White Widow or Northern Lights. Those are two High Quality strains that if you get the right cut will knock you on your ass. OG's are cool but nowadays the hype has people calling anything an OG.
 

Spawned

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I deft get what your saying and I just got done growing some big bud x nl and its really good but the og kush and la con are on a different level. A lot more of a narcotic feeling, and the high lasts twice as long. Whoever grew this shit in cali has deft perfected it, its time for me to step up my game.
 

echlectica

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You mean prices are going DOWN?

I can see how that might be problematic for growers who are relying on the black market to keep the prices for their flowers artificially high, but I don't see how its a problem for consumers!

Again, its the old "Baptists and Bootleggers" issue from the alcohol prohibition era. The bootleggers (who, in this case are growers) want cannabis to stay illegal. . .it helps maximize profits.
I grow some of the best and most unique bud in my area. When pot becomes legal I will either not have to drop my prices because of quality or I'll just be able to grow more and charge less and people will still buy it because it is the best around. Pretty simple really either bring the A game or go home.
 

Jogro

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Dont know about OG's being twice as potent as White Widow or Northern Lights. Those are two High Quality strains that if you get the right cut will knock you on your ass. OG's are cool but nowadays the hype has people calling anything an OG.
Agree with both these things.

FWIW, a good cut of either Northern lights or White Widow grown well will test in at about 20% THC (or in some cases higher), making either one potentially comparable in potency to many of the commercial OGs. Unfortunately, those two are probably THE most two faked/copied strains on the market, and most ceeds labelled as either don't live up to the potential of the strain.
 

ounevinsmoke

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I deft get what your saying and I just got done growing some big bud x nl and its really good but the og kush and la con are on a different level. A lot more of a narcotic feeling, and the high lasts twice as long. Whoever grew this shit in cali has deft perfected it, its time for me to step up my game.
Big Bud is known for High Production (fat dense buds) and low potency(characteristics)... White Widow is a very High THC potent strain on its own. A hybrid of the two is really just to produce more for you will most likely lose some potency... When you look at genetics and place of origin you can kinda get a taste of what will produce the effects you are looking for. These days commercial breeders are looking for production a little more than potency if you ask me. On the other hand OG's tend to be the opposite with not so great production (pending on how you grow it) and high potency. I still believe Northern Lights is a great strain as I have come into contact with some that will have you spaced on one or two hits. Anything that shoots stone in one hit is High Grade Marijuana if you ask me. Im actually working on a Tahoe OG in my garden...
 

horribleherk

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hey spawned im in cen-cali & am trying to add an og to my line up too superlemonhaze has been one of my top strains everyone asks for it & once again its in my room back by popular demand people bad mouth greenhouse seeds but superlemonhaze is pretty good & seeds readily available kandy kush from r/p catches my interest too good luck in your quest
 

Spawned

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Nice man I wish I could pick and choose phenos to keep for good but given where I live and the connections I have, I usually buy a bunch a seeds and grow them out, funny u brought up ghs, I use a lot of their gear but never tried their og.
 

Jogro

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I grow some of the best and most unique bud in my area. When pot becomes legal I will either not have to drop my prices because of quality or I'll just be able to grow more and charge less and people will still buy it because it is the best around. Pretty simple really either bring the A game or go home.
"Legal" covers a pretty broad ground.

Forgetting for the moment that cannabis is still illegal everywhere in the USA under Federal law, even in CO, where recreational cannabis is now "legal" you can't grow nor possess as much as you like, and sales are heavily restricted. So even "legal" cannabis is still controlled to the point where prices are artificially high.

Its doubtful that cannabis will ever become truly unregulated, say the way it was 100 years ago, like tomatoes where you can grow, buy, or sell as much as you like. People will always pay more for the best of the best, but if cannabis were truly "free" (ie not tied up by law), the stuff would cost as much as any other spice or dried flowers. . .ie tens of dollars per ounce, not hundreds of dollars.

Edit:
Lets put it this way. If cannabis were truly "legal", you'd be allowed to plant 1000 acre fields with 100,000 plants in them. . .and plenty of farmers would actually do so. Medical cannabis would be a viable legal cash crop like corn, soybeans, or cotton, with roughly comparable pricing. In fact, I think on a yield/acre basis, cannabis flowers would probably be cheaper than cotton (which currently costs under $1/lb). Under that kind of regulatory framework, high grade hash could be made in commercial quantity and could be so inexpensive that many people wouldn't even want to smoke buds at all.

Again, of course there is always room in any marketplace for the "best" and if you were growing truly top grade organic stuff, people would pay a premium for it. . .but the market ultimately determines what that premium is. If decent quality mid-grade commercial bud cost only $10-20/ounce and you can grow whatever you like in your backyard in whatever quantity, I don't think there are going to be many, if any willing to pay $150/ounce for top shelf stuff.

But all this is basically a "pipe dream". There is far too much money to be made selling and taximg weed for any powers that be to truly re-legalize it. (IE nobody thinks that the taxes on cigarettes are going to go BELOW their currently greater than 75% level). I think the best we can hope for is some sort of comprehensive decriminalization so that people who want to smoke/use it or grow it in limited quantity. can do so without fear of criminal sanction.
 

horribleherk

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hey spawned if you do this long enough youll learn the value of being able to clone then you wont have to rely on ''other people'' to keep it going on you can order seeds then clone from them it can be as simple as a cfl light,a foil casserole tray with a clear dome & some rapid-rooters & shultz root powder
 

jimdandy

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Here is my 2 cents on the subject. I have smoked pot since 1978!! On and off of course. I have encountered numerous strains over the years that had very interesting highs. In the past 20 or so years i think we can all agree that cannabis cultivation has evolved. As mans knowledge increases and the ability to store and retrieve knowledge increases, EVERTHING changes. I know this may seem like a ramble to some but hold tight you may get my point.

I have had OG and many of the hybrids that contain the same genetics. I admit it is some potent bud. But there are some who seek a different effect from cannabis and go for other varieties. Example, those who prefer the pure Sativa buzz. If this is your taste, you may actually hate the high powered indicas that plaster your ass to the couch trying to figure out who you are and how did you get here!!!

Since the medical movement and the increase of growers legal and illegal has expanded, these power strains will evolve more and more. Anyone who thinks that OG kush is the "Holy Grail" and end all of cannabis should think about what the next power strain will be when it hits the scene. Then once its hyped up and presented as the must have strain, think what people will be saying!!

Remember, I said 1978. Here are some of the must have strains I remember. Acapulco Gold, Columbian, Maui Wowie,Red Bud, Thai Stick, Northern Lights, White Widow, Now OG Kush!
20 years from now imagine what people will be saying. Imagine the hybrids that will be selectively bred and perfected. I say don't get caught up in the hype of strains and bullshit and just be glad we were blessed with this miracle plant. Enough said! If anyone gets offended, Sorry!
 
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