Which light??
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Organics101
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damn six plants in a 2x2 space i think ive been doubting how close i can grow these things, you got some real good growth goin, nice an bushy thats whatsup
Organics101
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thats my plan! two 600s runnin, cooling systems all figure out. gonna have some reeeal nice growthThe difference in price between a 400w and 600w light system is so little
if i were you, i would buy 2x600 watt systems, as it gives you more choice on what bulbs you can run
you can always run 400w bulbs in the 600w systems if you want to save power or lower heat
you can start them with 2x400w then switch to 600w when heavy budding sets in
if you get 2x400 w systems you will be limited to 400w or lower power only
although 2x400w will cover the 7ft space you have, 2x600w will be better aslong as you deal with the extra heat etc from 2x 600
one thing is certain you will need 2 lights to cover 7ft, 1 light will only cover 3-4 ft
good luck
Organics101
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damn thats a good amount of space is that the 2x2 or your new one?? i usualy start out vegging in 6" pots until they reach about ten inches or so then i can transplant into bigger pots, (usualy i do 5 gal) and the roots have a rediculous amount of space to grow into, i get some monstter plants they get an extra 30-40 inches of growth space, but thats a nice little room. i could defenetly fit more than 4 plants in a 3x8
wheels619
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yeah thats all in the 2x2. i generally dont go bigger than a 2 or 3 gallon pot tho. they say a good rule of thumb is a little over a gallon for each month of veg. i usually never veg past 8 weeks anymore cuz i run out of room if they get to big after the stretch. i try to stay below 2 ft tall before i throw it in flower cuz some strains will double if not tripple in size after they stretch. have 13 in flower now. 5 are still too small to tell sex but the rest are fem. i decided to try some 12/12 from seed stuff. sprouted 4 seeds that are chem-grapes and got 4 females. whats the odds on that. lol. also have 5 PLP's going 12/12 also unknown sex and have a skywalker thats about 3 feet tall and a cougar that was tossed in at about a foot . now its 2.25 ft tall. also a plp thats about 2.5 ft tall but super bushy indica. gonna toss the stuff in the flower shed once all the clones root so that dhould be another 4 or 5 good sized ones.
normally i start my clones in party cups for about two weeks then up them to 1 gallons for about 3 weeks to a month. then gradually go bigger if they are moms.
also u can pack them in there pretty tight. but make sure u check them daily. when leaves are touching it can hold moisture in between them and cause mildew and mold.
i can fit about 15 one gallons in there packed tight but once the 2 or three weeks is up i have to move them to the tent. they just get to bushy unless i top them then they get another week. i can also fit about 5 or six two gallons in there comfortably.
Organics101
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thats so legit dude i bet you get a lot out of that shit, i could easily fit 8 in that comfortably and get a lot out of it, with a 3x8 spacc e a lot is possible, im about to move the 6" pots into the gallon jugs and i should get some pretty good growth, i usualy transplant once i can see roots at the bottom of the 6" pots. im actualy pretty interested in that 2x2 if u can veg 15 2-3 weeks in then 8 should be no problem to have 6 weeks in, maybe more. i could easily just set it up in the room i have so i can keep shit steady, forget having to wait 3 months every harvest that shit blows. but thats legit on the chem grapes i bet thats gonna be some dank nugs, i usualy stay on northern lights since im where the northern lights are haha it just works. organically grown northern lights is the best nug ive smoked but i grow a lot of dif strains. but yah im def interested in making this shit steady ive been slackin on it for to long. id be down, also i bet cfls during veg would keep that shit a lot cooler over a 250 mh, but id probly end up using a 250 mh anyways lol. ill have my veg and flower seperate, ill be able to hold 8 in flower in a small space and 8 in the 3x8 room and be alllll goood, id just run the two 600s and get the best growth i could, two 600s would give me a straiight amount of buds on the puppies
Organics101
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i try as mch as i can to make sure i have female seeds, earlier i had a lemon blueberry sour deisle plant that ended up being a hermaphradite, i got sooooo many good seeds off that fucker and with herms all the seeds are femallee, so lately ive just been growing a lot of that shit, the plants get wider than they do tall its crazy, you godda trim them bitches real nice, i still got a bunch of those seeds so im hoping to grow a shit load of those
wheels619
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yeah in all honesty u could just get the wood from home depot to build ur own to any size and shape u want. a sheet of 8x4 plywood with the radient barier is 11 bucks a sheet that way u wont have to line the wall with reflective stuff. i built my flower shed this way so i could clean everything with a bit more easy and i dont have to worry about hanging shit everywhere. 2 sheets of that and 4 2x3s at 8 ft long at about 2 bucks a piece and u got a veg box just about any size u want. lol. just make sure ur clones arent under that big ass light in ur veg tent. i only use a single 68 watt cfl for the whole top portion of the 2x2 just for clones. could even go with a smaller bulb but if i put my cloning try in there with the bubble cloner i would run out of light. so the 68 watt had to go in. the cfls were there cuz at the time we didnt have enough lighting for it. but a 250 was what i was honestly looking to put in it. the cfls work bangin cuz they were cheap. but a 250watt mh would give me more lumens then the 300+ watts of cfls i was using. and be cheaper on power. but the draw back is the heat. i figured i wouldnt have to exhaust the 2x2 but found out wrong. so it has two 4 inch pc fans wired into it.
wheels619
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i try to stay away from fem seeds cuz they tend to hermie easier than normal. plus u can breed reg seeds to get a ton of extra seeds. but occasionally i find something i want to try. lol. im up to 6 or 7 strains i think. i like variety. lol.
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the veg tent and flower box.
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the veg tent and flower box.
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Organics101
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yahhh thats what i did with the floring in my room, i just went over to home depot an picked up a couple of floor boards an clean up is a breeze, thats a damn good idea on headin over there for the veg grow box i could make somethin real nice, wood is cheap to so like you said it would be cheap as hell, id most likely just run the 250 mh in there since i already got it, ill work on gettin some more fans and ducts so i can get that goin nicely, do u think one 250 can accomidate 8 plants in veg? caus im sure the 3x8 could accomidate 8 plants if im running the two 600s, id pretty much double my progress
Organics101
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those are some beauties you got goin on, ill try an get some pics of mine there only about ten inches tall but there lookin good
Monkeyfloss
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not in my experience ive done hundreds of fems from different companies, never seen a hermie yet. Please don't pass on more myths.
wheels619
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i never said fem seeds are bad. its just been my experience to stay away from them becuz of the tendency to hermie more so than reg seeds. its in the genetics of the seed thats how they make them fem. with hermied true female plants. if the seeds arent done right when being made they will most likely hermie. read the forums. peeps complain all the time from fem seeds turning gaga on them. organic had some go gaga on him too recently if im correct not to mention i had two half pound plants go gaga on me cuz the genes werent stable enough. thats all im saying. and its personal prefference. i just have to much shit in flower to risk fem seeds unless they have been tried and tested first.
and yeah a box is cheep to build compared to buying a tent and u can build it to any size u really want and it will last u longer if u build it right. a 250 will cover about a 3x4 area comfortably. u can veg 8 under it as long as they arent super huge. lol. but once u start going bigger than the 3x4 ur available light footprint will have to grow too and the 250 wouldnt cover much more than the 3x4 and give u decent growth. a 2x2 would be ballin or even a 3x3 would be perfect.
and yeah a box is cheep to build compared to buying a tent and u can build it to any size u really want and it will last u longer if u build it right. a 250 will cover about a 3x4 area comfortably. u can veg 8 under it as long as they arent super huge. lol. but once u start going bigger than the 3x4 ur available light footprint will have to grow too and the 250 wouldnt cover much more than the 3x4 and give u decent growth. a 2x2 would be ballin or even a 3x3 would be perfect.
Organics101
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im def gonna hop on that 3x3 that would fit perfectly with the space im workin with, ill just run that 250 on those an have 8 of em goin, the breed of seed im using producer pretty wide plants tho so ill figure out different strains an shit along the way, either way ill make it work nicely. i found out if i wanted to get two brand new 600s bulbs, ballast, cooling hood an all it would cost close to 300 per system, 600 bucks on two 600s would suck lol but im sure i could get the people at the store to gimme some sort of discount they usualy do. ill check out craigslist for it but i normaly never use craigslist or ebay or anything along those lines idk why i just never got to know it, but all an all i got my lights figured out, imma grab some wood an build me a nice 3x3 an start that veg goin, an grab them 600s to get some nice buds growin. ill have my 3x8 room for flower an my 3x3 for veg ill be able to produce a baller amount of nugs, ill have a nice little set up goin on ill never run out of quality smoking buds, mission accomplished lol
wheels619
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oh and before u buy7 ur wood and stuff plan it out. lol. draw the dimensions on paper. cuz having to go back to home depot for another sheet of plywood cuz u screwed the plans up in ur head cuz u were high. lmao. it might have happened to me.
also. 2 120cfm pc fans help and work amazing for my 2x2 box. cost me about 10 bucks a piece at radioshack.
also. 2 120cfm pc fans help and work amazing for my 2x2 box. cost me about 10 bucks a piece at radioshack.
Organics101
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i got a quick question about stretching, i know if the light is to far away the plant will began to stretch, however i havent had my light far away like thats its stayed about 13 inches or so away, caus out of my four plants, for some reason one of them is stretching tal but the inner nodes are having a big trouble growing out, ive done the same to that plant as i did with the other three and the other three are fine, its just that one guy doesnt seem to be producing its inner nodes as nice as the rest, any thoughts on what mite be causing this?
Organics101
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ill check that out rite now an see what i can find
Organics101
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haha i know all to well about those seconds trips to home depot believe me theres nothin worse than that. ill have it all planned out nicely an make sure everythings gonna flow, pc fans is a good idea i never really thought about those ive always been stuck on the huge inline fans but the pcs just sound like they would work nicely with what my plan is, its gonna take some time to get it all flowin but once it is flowin its gonna be smooth sailing from there