HaroldRocks
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dude i dont care if you ignore me - there's no point in talking to you anyway - youre just mad about somewhere around 40% of the population not wanting to get the shot
what do you want me to tell ya?
Will You Take The Vaccine?
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dude i dont care if you ignore me - there's no point in talking to you anyway - youre just mad about somewhere around 40% of the population not wanting to get the shot
what do you want me to tell ya?
No need to apologize, I was just explaining why there was a misinterpretation.
Good point bro, I fed you that one LOL ccguns
captainmorgan
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There's a handful of deplorable trolls that go from sock to sock, I usually try to ignore their Qtard BS.
DIY-HP-LED
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Hey, I just though there were mandatory military inoculations already, there will be and I'm pretty sure that to serve on a ship in the Navy they will need a vaccination. Yeah, try suing the US military, good luck, even if you had a case, which you do not based on the available evidence they wouldn't have a bases for a lawsuit, emergency usage will come to an end, the accumulating real world data will be used to do it.
Now let's deal with some of the many lies you've been spouting here, the vaccine is a vaccine, period
I think you will find the courts on the side of public safety, intentional or recklessly caused harm must be proved to even get into court much less win a lawsuit.
All drug companies were not involved in the opioid crises, guilt by association, more bullshit.
I could go through your other posts too and find plenty of lies and outright stupidity, but I've wasted enough time on an idiot like you.
I don't hope for mandatory vaccinations, I'm perfectly willing to let people like you die, just like most folks with brains. I am in favor of social pressure and ridicule for pro pandemic types like you who are just trolling and have no real concerns or issues. Soon everybody with a brain will be protected and we will see the fools go down or develop immunity the old fashioned way along with mental issues and physical maiming
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HaroldRocks
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i am finding it humorous that some of you guys are calling me names, calling me a troll, saying im somebody else who im not, trying to bait me into saying something to you to cause me to be banned
its like you guys have the vaccine to say whatever you want, no matter how vulgar it is, but i better be careful
and im still not biting
its like you guys have the vaccine to say whatever you want, no matter how vulgar it is, but i better be careful
and im still not biting
DIY-HP-LED
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You are proving our point about the danger of variants and the danger people like you represent to society by being potential mutant factories. Everybody knows emerging variants are a threat, that's why you wear a mask even if vaccinated fool.youre wrong dude
COVID research: a year of scientific milestones
Nature waded through the literature on the coronavirus — and summarized key papers as they appeared.www.nature.com
DIY-HP-LED
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That just proves you have none yourself.
DIY-HP-LED
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Read more than the title, they are designed to get attention, the actual article explains things.but look at this:
Coronavirus more intelligent than humans, says medical journal
Lockdown violation by people led to spurt in Covid-19 cases, finds studywww.deccanchronicle.com
i guess there's some scientists who are smarter than you that are saying it's more intelligent than humans
crazy isn't it
HaroldRocks
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i did read it...i just thought it was funny that he asked me if i thought the virus was intelligent and then i found that article
HaroldRocks
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HaroldRocks
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Right....because why? because you're not immune with these covid shots...they're just so you might not get as sick and end up in the hospital and die...you still catch it tho
but you're not sure if 100% of ppl had these shots, that it still wouldn't mutate and possibly cause the shots to be less effective
right? because nobody knows that still....except for maybe you and the fogdog guy because you guys are really super smart
DIY-HP-LED
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Nobody said these vaccines are not effective against the arising variants, just not as effective in some cases. The longer you've been immunized the more broad spectrum the immune response as you own immune system is subject to mutations too and don't just end up producing the exact antibody copies to fight the original strain either, it's an evolutionary adaptation that helps give us protection against viral variants and why there are many billions of different antibodies in circulation. I posted an article about his from a scientific journal awhile back on another thread.
Hey by all means don't get vaccinated yourself for whatever reasons, just STFU and keep it to yourself, because when you spout about it on here you look like a fool who can't think straight. If you and your kind become an issue it will be dealt with one way or another, but for now with a planet unvaccinated, you are low down on the priority list and most will end up infected and thus immunized. Either way yer immunized, though one way has several orders of magnitude more risk than the other.
Spewing disinformation only causes correct information to be posted here in large volumes. Also we haven't had many Trumpers for amusement lately, none that stick around for the fun.
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TacoMac
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@HaroldRocks will be another in an already very long line who will catch covid, wind up in the hospital, and just before he goes on a ventilator will make a post telling everyone not to be like him, to get vaccinated and take covid seriously.
HaroldRocks
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I'm not a Trumper so I guess that's why I'm still here... Voted against him twice...I don't know what else to tell you about that
You're just trying to squash the other view by screaming louder and louder but it's just not working... There's still a ton that won't get the shot.
Evolution would be to let it go do it's thing and then let humans adapt WITHOUT bypassing my liver with a shot that may or may not be safe to begin with... Some ppl will have a reaction to the shot, some ppl die, and you're ok with that too
You're just trying to squash the other view by screaming louder and louder but it's just not working... There's still a ton that won't get the shot.
Evolution would be to let it go do it's thing and then let humans adapt WITHOUT bypassing my liver with a shot that may or may not be safe to begin with... Some ppl will have a reaction to the shot, some ppl die, and you're ok with that too
HaroldRocks
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That's what you hope... That's terrible dude... But whatever man, I would never wish anybody got sick... But you go right ahead
CunningCanuk
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You know what? Harry rocks has convinced me. I’m canceling my Tuesday vaccine appointment in the morning.
DIY-HP-LED
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I'd say the longer you've been immunized by vaccine or infection the more protection against variants you will probably have, to a point. This might also be the mechanism by which immunity is degraded over time too, it could simply be an evolutionary trade off.
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Your Immune System Evolves to Fight Coronavirus Variants - Scientific American
Your Immune System Evolves to Fight Coronavirus Variants
Antibodies can change to counter new forms of the shape-shifting virus, research hints
A lot of worry has been triggered by discoveries that variants of the pandemic-causing coronavirus can be more infectious than the original. But now scientists are starting to find some signs of hope on the human side of this microbe-host interaction. By studying the blood of COVID survivors and people who have been vaccinated, immunologists are learning that some of our immune system cells—which remember past infections and react to them—might have their own abilities to change, countering mutations in the virus. What this means, scientists think, is that the immune system might have evolved its own way of dealing with variants.
“Essentially, the immune system is trying to get ahead of the virus,” says Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at the Rockefeller University, who conducted some recent studies that tracked this phenomenon. The emerging idea is that the body maintains reserve armies of antibody-producing cells in addition to the original cells that responded to the initial invasion by SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID. Over time some reserve cells mutate and produce antibodies that are better able to recognize new viral versions. “It’s really elegant mechanism that that we’ve evolved, basically, to be able to handle things like variants,” says Marion Pepper, an immunologist at the University of Washington, who was not involved in Nussenzweig’s research. Whether there are enough of these cells, and their antibodies, to confer protection against a shape-shifting SARS-CoV-2 is still being figured out.
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Your Immune System Evolves to Fight Coronavirus Variants - Scientific American
Your Immune System Evolves to Fight Coronavirus Variants
Antibodies can change to counter new forms of the shape-shifting virus, research hints
A lot of worry has been triggered by discoveries that variants of the pandemic-causing coronavirus can be more infectious than the original. But now scientists are starting to find some signs of hope on the human side of this microbe-host interaction. By studying the blood of COVID survivors and people who have been vaccinated, immunologists are learning that some of our immune system cells—which remember past infections and react to them—might have their own abilities to change, countering mutations in the virus. What this means, scientists think, is that the immune system might have evolved its own way of dealing with variants.
“Essentially, the immune system is trying to get ahead of the virus,” says Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at the Rockefeller University, who conducted some recent studies that tracked this phenomenon. The emerging idea is that the body maintains reserve armies of antibody-producing cells in addition to the original cells that responded to the initial invasion by SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID. Over time some reserve cells mutate and produce antibodies that are better able to recognize new viral versions. “It’s really elegant mechanism that that we’ve evolved, basically, to be able to handle things like variants,” says Marion Pepper, an immunologist at the University of Washington, who was not involved in Nussenzweig’s research. Whether there are enough of these cells, and their antibodies, to confer protection against a shape-shifting SARS-CoV-2 is still being figured out.
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HaroldRocks
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the only person i know that actually died from it was my step-brother's father-in-law - and that was really early into it - like last May - he was in his late 60s and im not sure if he had any under-lying issues - not that im aware of anyway
everybody else, they had it, it was mild, and it was gone in a few days - no lasting remnants sticking around or long-term issues either
so it's worse than the flu but only a little bit - and that's my own personal assessment - so again, im not too overly concerned about it where i think i should gamble on an adverse reaction from a new mRNA shot that's still in the experimental phase - obviously, as i stated earlier, some additives have caused me issues before, and im not doing it again - plus i still think the jury is out on these shots overall
you can hate me for that, wish ill will on me, call me trumper/republican all you want, even tho its got zero to do with politics, call me an idiot, brainless, whatever - none of it matters, i just still don't care what you think of me for that - and i never will care what anybody thinks - im not gonna be pressured into anything i dont feel comfortable with....and thats that
now go get your shots if you want - or don't - just don't be mad at me for it - i won't call you any names for your view and your decision either way
everybody else, they had it, it was mild, and it was gone in a few days - no lasting remnants sticking around or long-term issues either
so it's worse than the flu but only a little bit - and that's my own personal assessment - so again, im not too overly concerned about it where i think i should gamble on an adverse reaction from a new mRNA shot that's still in the experimental phase - obviously, as i stated earlier, some additives have caused me issues before, and im not doing it again - plus i still think the jury is out on these shots overall
you can hate me for that, wish ill will on me, call me trumper/republican all you want, even tho its got zero to do with politics, call me an idiot, brainless, whatever - none of it matters, i just still don't care what you think of me for that - and i never will care what anybody thinks - im not gonna be pressured into anything i dont feel comfortable with....and thats that
now go get your shots if you want - or don't - just don't be mad at me for it - i won't call you any names for your view and your decision either way