World Of Hempy

twistedwords

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I will give how I do it on this thread. its easy and works every time and no need to purchase medium again. Well maybe once in a while as some might get lost with the roots! Just shake them real well when cut.

seedlings: 3% vermiculite the rest perlite

The rest when transplanted: 8% vermiculite the rest perlite.

Done!
 

OJAE

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Yeah not only is that dust nasty and toxic to breathe....the sludge it creates in the bottom of a hempy isn't good for roots.
 
What is your preferred method for cleaning, rinsing, perllite to get rid of the dust? I have a giant bag and It seems like I would need a huge colander to effectley rinse all of it.
 

.Smoke

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What is your preferred method for cleaning, rinsing, perllite to get rid of the dust? I have a giant bag and It seems like I would need a huge colander to effectley rinse all of it.

Costs $5. Drill quite a few 1/4" holes in the bottom.
Wash in bathtub or outside.
Simple :)
And works
 

.Smoke

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100% Automatic feed/waste system setups

I finally took some pictures of my setup for help on another thread, so I figured I'd go ahead and share here incase it can help anyone else since I've had a few requests for info on it.

30 gallon reservoir with a vivosun 800gph pump feeding an 8-way Flora Flex bubbler with the 20gph insert installed.
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Controlled with a multi programmable timer.
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1/4" feed lines going into 1/4" quick connect by 1/4" male John Guest fittings that I chose to sillicon in place to make the buckets sub-irrigated so I never have the threat of algae growth while the plants are small and the perlite in the opening of the lid is exposed.
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Drain lines are 3/8" quick connect by 1/4" male going to a beefy Litte Giant condensate pump
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Which has an internal float switch that automatically pumps everything straight to the sewer. Connected the same way you do a discharge line from a water softener
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Anyway, that's how I do mine. 100% sealed/automatic. Please feel free to share how you guys run your feed/drainage. I'm sure folks could use the help and I always love seeing how people engineer the same things in different ways.
:peace:
 
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.Smoke

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I've had a few questions on my buckets so I figured I'd update here.
I was running 4 gallon buckets previously (about the same height as a 5 gal) and ended up root bound and too tall. So I found some 10 gallon totes and turned them into buckets. Both can be seen here....(black 4gal/blue 10gal)
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Better tote picture...
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Its day 21 from 12/12 for this white widow,
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and I'm happy to report that moving to a shorter/wider/larger tote has had no adverse effects. Everything seems to be going as normal and one great benefit is after the seed popped, I didn't have to rewater the bucket until week 3 of Veg.

So, if you're looking to go bigger/squatter with your buckets, I give it a 2 thumbs up.
:peace:
 

PissingNutes

Active Member
Hi!
I'm gonna try hempy buckets filled with coco/perlite(60/40)for the first time.
Using hydro nutes. Not using organic nutes.

My questions:
Will I benefit from tea in this medium, and should I add molasses to the tea?
How often should I add it?
Will I have a problem mixing myco blend ment for soil with coco/perlite?

The tea will be made of hydroguard, vermicompost and mycorrhizal bennies product made for soil and some molasses if its not problematic.
The tea is likely to coat your roots with sludge and your hydro nutes may not be designed to work with sludge so you need to either regularly use a certain concentration of enzyme with feedings and/or flush with enzymes and then replenish the bacteria because whatever low concentration will reduce the colony-not the stuff that they eat but the actual bacteria.
 

PissingNutes

Active Member
Also from what I read enzymes and the chemistry we are looking for creates heat and the use of them in ag involves chilling the water before adding acids(nutes)...
 

WattSaver

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Ok Hempy fans, I'm trying something I've always wanted to do. An Organic Hempy Bucket. The whole idea is to use supersoil mixed with coco and a perlite rez.
 
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.Smoke

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Ok Hempy fans, I'm trying something I've always wanted to do. An Organic Hempy Bucket. The whole idea is to use supersoil mixed with coco and a perlite rez.
Unless the microbes can live in the water shelf mixed with coco and perlite, (pretty sure they can't) I'm not to sure how exactly the roots are going to get any nutrients.

It's my understanding that the roots above the water shelf are used to absorb air, not nutrients.

Someone correct me if I'm mistaken please.
 

WattSaver

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Unless the microbes can live in the water shelf mixed with coco and perlite, (pretty sure they can't) I'm not to sure how exactly the roots are going to get any nutrients.

It's my understanding that the roots above the water shelf are used to absorb air, not nutrients.

Someone correct me if I'm mistaken please.
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I'm going to put together a Journal for this grow so you can see. But I've been using soil in hempy's for almost a decade and it works but it's always been just the core with many different mediums around the soil core.
Anyways to your point, in a bucket the water level is never above the bucket hole so all roots above will react generally as you stated. If you go back a few hundred pages I explained the hydraulic effects of the hempy bucket concerning O2 introduction.
What I'm now trying is an experiment don't have any idea if it will work but I've worked with buckets for a long time so I'll be able to tell if its worth continuing. Just something I've wanted to do for several yrs. When I get a journal started I'll post a link.
If you want to check using soil and controlled release nuits. check out my signature
 

ISK

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I'm going to put together a Journal for this grow so you can see. But I've been using soil in hempy's for almost a decade and it works but it's always been just the core with many different mediums around the soil core.
I've been using your idea of a soil cap for years now but my last grow (2020 Indoor Sunshine Grow) was the first time I used a soil core......it was my most productive grow ever, so I'm a true believer now :)
 

Nizza

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100% Automatic feed/waste system setups

I finally took some pictures of my setup for help on another thread, so I figured I'd go ahead and share here incase it can help anyone else since I've had a few requests for info on it.

30 gallon reservoir with a vivosun 800gph pump feeding an 8-way Flora Flex bubbler with the 20gph insert installed.
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Controlled with a multi programmable timer.
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1/4" feed lines going into 1/4" quick connect by 1/4" male John Guest fittings that I chose to sillicon in place to make the buckets sub-irrigated so I never have the threat of algae growth while the plants are small and the perlite in the opening of the lid is exposed.
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Drain lines are 3/8" quick connect by 1/4" male going to a beefy Litte Giant condensate pump
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Which has an internal float switch that automatically pumps everything straight to the sewer. Connected the same way you do a discharge line from a water softener
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Anyway, that's how I do mine. 100% sealed/automatic. Please feel free to share how you guys run your feed/drainage. I'm sure folks could use the help and I always love seeing how people engineer the same things in different ways.
:peace:
you may want to add a P-trap onto that to prevent sewer gases from coming back, even though the little giant pump has a check valve in it.
 

WattSaver

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I started a journal if you want to check out growing with dirt in a hempy.
I've got the buckets' s started and they are looking real good, going to flip here soon.
Now before you completely denounce the use of soil in a passive hydro system it's something I've done for more than a decade. Hell my first post on this thread is on page 4 so I've been a hempy fan for a long time because it's productive and easy. Anyways back in the late 90's I'd given up outdoor summer gorilla grows and wanted to try a closet grow instead. I found a news group feed (didn't have sites like this back then) and before the term hempy was coined we used trays that were around 8 - 10" deep and filled with gravel 1-2" up. Then from the gravel up a 50/50 mix potting soil and perlite. No hole but this was an early start to passive hydro, and I had a couple good closet grows with T-12 bulbs.
 
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