World Of Hempy

Jmerc

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The Hempy bucket is so forgiving you can run any strain with any hydro nutrients. If new to this you might find 5-5gal buckets a lot to feed for your first run though. Hauling RO water if you use it can wear your ass out too. Check your tents headroom minus the light distance and any fans filters up top versus that strain's typical height. Step down in bucket size for a smaller plant. I've had my 2 gal buckets grow monsters and had to perform bending and super cropping to keep them out of the lights. Just for example, here's a shot of a 2gal bucket grow I did. This tent was 4.5' wide.View attachment 4769254
Nice!!!!! I will keep that in mind... so how much veg time did you have there? And what did you get out of them if you don’t mind?
 

Billytheluther

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Nice!!!!! I will keep that in mind... so how much veg time did you have there? And what did you get out of them if you don’t mind?
Here a pic I took today of my 4 plants one is in a 5gallons bucket the other 3 are in 2.7 gallon pots filled to about 3/4s. They are all big but the 5 gallon is a bit bigger not that much though.
They are clones, vegged them for abouta month or a bit more till they were about 22 inches from medium before I flipped the lights. They stretched to a little over 4 feet from medium so a little over 5ft total height. I raised my light all I could and my ceiling is almost 8 ft high and I still got light bleaching
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Jmerc

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Here a pic I took today of my 4 plants one is in a 5gallons bucket the other 3 are in 2.7 gallon pots filled to about 3/4s. They are all big but the 5 gallon is a bit bigger not that much though.
They are clones, vegged them for abouta month or a bit more till they were about 22 inches from medium before I flipped the lights. They stretched to a little over 4 feet from medium so a little over 5ft total height. I raised my light all I could and my ceiling is almost 8 ft high and I still got light bleaching
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They look dope man!!! Can’t wait to have mines up to that point lol... mines won’t grow as much I hope, I have big bud from sensi seeds... I was hoping to veg for a month as well... Clíp at 3 weeks and then another week to recover before switching... hopefully it won’t be too much for my tent which is 6’7...
 

Jmerc

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A few root shots of my last three bucket Hempy's.
One WW mainlined to 14 on far right and two Ice one @ 8 mains on far left and washed the roots and one @ 6 mains middle.



There were grown in 3 gallon Hempy's. They were cut on 4/20 and just removed the stem and roots today, very little discoloration, these were some happy roots.

One thing I was not pleased with was the mix, I went with 75/25 Perlite/Vermiculite. When removing the root system from the buckets the Vermiculite was very dominate. Next grow my be 100% Perlite. I believe the additional O2 to the roots with the lighter material will be better.

Any comments welcome.

GR
Did you try the 100% perlite and how long was the veg time/dry yield? Going for mine very soon
 

Billytheluther

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Hey guys I just finished up my first hempy grow, it went real well other than the fact that I got a bit of mold. Atm I’m starting another grow but I have my current keeper wilting on me in veg ( I know idk if she’s gonna be a keeper yet but she reeks to high heaven ) anyways, I was thinking maybe I should transplant or something before taking clones. I really don’t want to lose her. But maybe I’m doing something wgrong. I think I may have had too much vermiculite in the mix..
 

Destroyer of chairs

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What minerals/salts powder do you guys use with Ur hempys? What I need, is a full list of salts and shit u might need(fulvic? Humic?) recently found out that silica is also something missing from the base? Obviously any help is appreciated! :'D

I grow in hempy coco perlite 30/70 ish, and use hydro liquid nutrient. Recently had/have some problems with magnesium def and possible calcium.
This made me wanna get in control more and at the same time save some money by going the dry powder mineral way.

Here they are! Not the happiest unfortunately :(
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jela10

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Chopped my single 2 gallon Hempy girl on the 2nd (Northern Lights). After drying and some cure I got the same old 4.75oz I always get. At least I'm repeatable. Most notable; this is the strongest strain I've ever grown. I thought I knew my Indica's as they are my fav but this one is over the top. 3 hits on on a vape reminds me of doing a couple of Quaalude's back in the 70's. I'm sure I got a unique pheno but Kudo's to Nirvana!
 

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jela10

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What minerals/salts powder do you guys use with Ur hempys? What I need, is a full list of salts and shit u might need(fulvic? Humic?) recently found out that silica is also something missing from the base? Obviously any help is appreciated! :'D

I grow in hempy coco perlite 30/70 ish, and use hydro liquid nutrient. Recently had/have some problems with magnesium def and possible calcium.
This made me wanna get in control more and at the same time save some money by going the dry powder mineral way.

Here they are! Not the happiest unfortunately :(
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I depend on hydro nutrients that are coco specific...but I went for a period in time when I fed the buckets without care for ample run-off out the hempy-hole when feeding. That period was when I saw deficiencies mid to late flower. I think I suffered salt buildups in the bucket rez that contributed to lockout simply because I wasn't watering with ample run-off. Not saying that's your problem as there are many contributing factors but it is one of the fundamentals in growing hempy....and it haunted me for a couple of grows before I returned to that process. Run-off is something to deal with and I was cuttin corners there.
 

1212ham

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What minerals/salts powder do you guys use with Ur hempys? What I need, is a full list of salts and shit u might need(fulvic? Humic?) recently found out that silica is also something missing from the base? Obviously any help is appreciated! :'D

I grow in hempy coco perlite 30/70 ish, and use hydro liquid nutrient. Recently had/have some problems with magnesium def and possible calcium.
This made me wanna get in control more and at the same time save some money by going the dry powder mineral way.

Here they are! Not the happiest unfortunately :(
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I haven't used Jacks, but a lot of people are very happy with it and it's not expensive. I use Mega Crop.

@jonnynobody runs perlite hempys.
 
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jela10

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My little Gorilla 2x2.5 is filling up again....all because of a little 2 gal bucket. This time a Nirvana Chrystal start of week 5F. This has been the most low-odor plant I've ever grown. Didn't connect my filter to the exhaust fan till week 3 of flower. However the low-order odors (say that out loud) I'm getting suggest something really fuel-like and grapefruity is coming. In all my hempy years I never trusted molasses and sugar additives because I make beer as a hobby too and always thought something might start fermenting in the rez. I've really never seen this discussed here on WOH so pioneering again! So....I started using some AN Bud Candy this time round....will see how it goes! It should feed the Beneficial's I have established in the root zone. If flavor and terps are better, that's where it would come from (like soil). Oh yeah, the funnel you ask? Just a back hurtin -SOB here that would rather pour nutes in from a standing position. That funnel is the the only one on earth with 1/2" slip fit connection on it....great for hydro tubing.IMG_1210.JPG
 

1212ham

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Oh yeah, the funnel you ask? Just a back hurtin -SOB here that would rather pour nutes in from a standing position. That funnel is the the only one on earth with 1/2" slip fit connection on it....great for hydro tubing.
Yes, I do ask. ;-)
Where can I buy one? Nice touch with the quick coupler.
 
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yankeetransplant

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What minerals/salts powder do you guys use with Ur hempys? What I need, is a full list of salts and shit u might need(fulvic? Humic?) recently found out that silica is also something missing from the base? Obviously any help is appreciated! :'D

I grow in hempy coco perlite 30/70 ish, and use hydro liquid nutrient. Recently had/have some problems with magnesium def and possible calcium.
This made me wanna get in control more and at the same time save some money by going the dry powder mineral way.

Here they are! Not the happiest unfortunately :(
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Hey there D.O.C. (lol)....I want to add this comment BEFORE you throw more, or different nutes at your plants....I grow hempy too...40+ years of hydro growing and DTW rules ALL OTHER METHODS.... Hempy is a DTW, it just keeps some extra water to reduce watering frequencies...With that being said, that 2inch reservoir DOES HAVE THE ABILITY to build up nutes and ALSO have considerable pH fluctuations....Unless your using a pH perfect type nutrient Its VERY POSSIBLE your ppms have creeped up and/ your pH....I have holes drilled in the bottom edge of my buckets with rubber stoppers in them....It enables me to pull a small sample of whats sitting in that 2inch reservoir at any given time....MORE TIMES THAN NOT, the second I see a change in growth pattern, or leaf color, my ppms are a little high (not out of control), but the pH is approaching OUT OF CONTROL HIGH....I water with ~ 20% runoff too....You would think that kind of runoff would keep #'s in check, but you would be surprised.....Its NEVER too late to drill a hole in each bucket and plug it with a rubber stopper....ALWAYS check your numbers (pH and ppm's) before assuming deficiencies....Just adding more nutes to a high ppm or out of range pH, can equal disaster...WITHOUT a way to check what is sitting in the 2 inch reservoirs, FLUSHING is the only sure way of resetting #'s....Hempy needs to be fed EVERY WATERING regardless of what you hear....The feed, feed, flush puts plants on a rollercoaster ride...Feed every watering and in moderation....As they grow, so dont there requirements....ANOTHER WAY, to avoid all possibilities of build up and pH fluctuations in the reservoirs, is to switch to STRAIGHT DTW...Drill some holes down on the bottom edge....DOES THE SAME THING, you will just have to water more frequently...If your growing in buckets, and not growing ENORMOUS plants, you wont have to water that much more...a 2ft by 2ft by 2ft tall plant in a 3-5 gal bucket would only need watering once a day at the most...Hempy style just buys you an extra day...
I've been growing too long, including being back to hempy style DTW, to NOT BE FOOLED by the fact that those little 2 inch reservoirs CAN cause fluctuations enuf to cause issues....
With a small plugged hole, you can sample it at any time...Great time is 6 hours after a watering....There is still standing water and its WHAT THEY ARE USING.....I seem to never have to exceed feeding 900ppm MAX during full veg and full flower, WHEN my pH is tuned...With those sample plugs, you will quickly learn how your plants drink, feed, and how YOUR system behaves....Everyones is different even if they're still hempy style...Different lights, nutes, medium, temps, CO2 levels, etc...what works for me MIGHT F yours up....LEARN YOUR SYSTEM...
Pic of my hempy sys...if you look at front left bucket (low on the front side) you will see the rubber stopper that plugs my sample hole...ITS THERE FOR A REASON, cause hempy can and will have fluctuations, even with decent runoff....The Verticle mounted PVC goes right to the bottom...In the event of a build up or pH fluctuation, I water straight down that to flush that 2 inch rez....I ALSO use 2 inch bed of lava rock or hydroton in each bucket.....I dont like 2inches of 'MUD' In the bottom of the buckets, WITHOUT using such a porous grow rock...it flushes real nice too...20200403_131713.jpg15375588684322981970464058876864~2.jpg20210103_162818_(1)_(1)_Signature.jpg20210103_170258_(1)_Signature.jpg20210108_214613_(1)_Signature.jpg20210108_214807_(1)_Signature.jpg20210106_232208_(1)_(1)_Signature.jpgt5qW3Ca_Signature.jpgScreenshot_2020-06-16-17-00-38.png20201009_152011(1).jpgGood AIR gets sucks in my buckets pvc drains (and verticle pvc pipe) as the water is used up....A LOT OF AIR is all around the grow rock bed when the water is nearly depleted...Now I'm rambling on...LOL....all good info, I ASSURE YOU...plenty of pics to back it up....YT
 

Destroyer of chairs

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Hey there D.O.C. (lol)....I want to add this comment BEFORE you throw more, or different nutes at your plants....I grow hempy too...40+ years of hydro growing and DTW rules ALL OTHER METHODS.... Hempy is a DTW, it just keeps some extra water to reduce watering frequencies...With that being said, that 2inch reservoir DOES HAVE THE ABILITY to build up nutes and ALSO have considerable pH fluctuations....Unless your using a pH perfect type nutrient Its VERY POSSIBLE your ppms have creeped up and/ your pH....I have holes drilled in the bottom edge of my buckets with rubber stoppers in them....It enables me to pull a small sample of whats sitting in that 2inch reservoir at any given time....MORE TIMES THAN NOT, the second I see a change in growth pattern, or leaf color, my ppms are a little high (not out of control), but the pH is approaching OUT OF CONTROL HIGH....I water with ~ 20% runoff too....You would think that kind of runoff would keep #'s in check, but you would be surprised.....Its NEVER too late to drill a hole in each bucket and plug it with a rubber stopper....ALWAYS check your numbers (pH and ppm's) before assuming deficiencies....Just adding more nutes to a high ppm or out of range pH, can equal disaster...WITHOUT a way to check what is sitting in the 2 inch reservoirs, FLUSHING is the only sure way of resetting #'s....Hempy needs to be fed EVERY WATERING regardless of what you hear....The feed, feed, flush puts plants on a rollercoaster ride...Feed every watering and in moderation....As they grow, so dont there requirements....ANOTHER WAY, to avoid all possibilities of build up and pH fluctuations in the reservoirs, is to switch to STRAIGHT DTW...Drill some holes down on the bottom edge....DOES THE SAME THING, you will just have to water more frequently...If your growing in buckets, and not growing ENORMOUS plants, you wont have to water that much more...a 2ft by 2ft by 2ft tall plant in a 3-5 gal bucket would only need watering once a day at the most...Hempy style just buys you an extra day...
I've been growing too long, including being back to hempy style DTW, to NOT BE FOOLED by the fact that those little 2 inch reservoirs CAN cause fluctuations enuf to cause issues....
With a small plugged hole, you can sample it at any time...Great time is 6 hours after a watering....There is still standing water and its WHAT THEY ARE USING.....I seem to never have to exceed feeding 900ppm MAX during full veg and full flower, WHEN my pH is tuned...With those sample plugs, you will quickly learn how your plants drink, feed, and how YOUR system behaves....Everyones is different even if they're still hempy style...Different lights, nutes, medium, temps, CO2 levels, etc...what works for me MIGHT F yours up....LEARN YOUR SYSTEM...
Pic of my hempy sys...if you look at front left bucket (low on the front side) you will see the rubber stopper that plugs my sample hole...ITS THERE FOR A REASON, cause hempy can and will have fluctuations, even with decent runoff....The Verticle mounted PVC goes right to the bottom...In the event of a build up or pH fluctuation, I water straight down that to flush that 2 inch rez....I ALSO use 2 inch bed of lava rock or hydroton in each bucket.....I dont like 2inches of 'MUD' In the bottom of the buckets, WITHOUT using such a porous grow rock...it flushes real nice too...View attachment 4826248View attachment 4826249View attachment 4826250View attachment 4826251View attachment 4826252View attachment 4826253View attachment 4826254View attachment 4826255View attachment 4826256View attachment 4826257Good AIR gets sucks in my buckets pvc drains (and verticle pvc pipe) as the water is used up....A LOT OF AIR is all around the grow rock bed when the water is nearly depleted...Now I'm rambling on...LOL....all good info, I ASSURE YOU...plenty of pics to back it up....YT
Ur telling the truth indeed and I must say what a simple way of checking runoff, I like it! Like having control and easy troubleshooting. If this is the way so be it thx.
And "never to late to drill", I've been wondering if its possible to drill holes at this point(need it for better drainage).
Got a auto watering system I made ready to go, just need calibration. So a more frequent watering schedule is no problem. If I find out hempy is a problem with my nutes I'll go straight DTW(opening plug). Do enjoy the safety net of it though.

BTW, they are still having issues though I'm not sure why. Pots only 5 liters so I'm watering by hand every 12 hours for some time now. Ur doing perlite and clay balls only?
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1212ham

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Ur telling the truth indeed and I must say what a simple way of checking runoff, I like it! Like having control and easy troubleshooting. If this is the way so be it thx.
And "never to late to drill", I've been wondering if its possible to drill holes at this point(need it for better drainage).
Got a auto watering system I made ready to go, just need calibration. So a more frequent watering schedule is no problem. If I find out hempy is a problem with my nutes I'll go straight DTW(opening plug). Do enjoy the safety net of it though.

BTW, they are still having issues though I'm not sure why. Pots only 5 liters so I'm watering by hand every 12 hours for some time now. Ur doing perlite and clay balls only?
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Did you make any progress on the mag deficiency? I also have it for the first time and not sure why. I wasn't surprised at first since I tried running Mega Crop without Calimagic and Epsom in 70/30 Perlite/coco. It seemed ok after I started adding them and did an Epsom spray. Three weeks ago I changed to Jack's 321 with calmag and Epsom but have mag def again.
 

yankeetransplant

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Foot notes...I use a 4:1 perlite to vermiculite mix for a medium....I use the Dyna Gro line of nutes....THE BEST SINGLE USE NUTES ON THE MARKET, and VERY affordable....YT
 

yankeetransplant

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Your crops BUDS look ok....Although ANY deficiency will show in your leaves 1st....any imbalance will effect the outcome, even if minor.....yeah, a 5L pot supports about a large plantlet....I grew in pots that size once, but each sat in a cutout in a foiled foam board, which covered a plastic lined 2x4 frame that ALWAYS had 2 inches of water in it..the water was HIGHLY circulated by pumps I added...I dubbed it, shallow water culture sys..(SWC)..since they always had access to water, a decent size plant could grow in that size container....With a DTW thats pushing the limits, and isn't why your watering Twice a day....BUT, that frequent of waterings SHOULD keep your #'s more stable than if using 3-5 gallon and watering every 2-3 days....are you using tap water?...I never use RO water....Tap works better for me.... Municipal tap in this region runs about 180ppm, which is fine and contains calcium already...Calmag issue are uncommon is your starting with a quality nute....I HAVE NEVER had a calmag issue using DynaGro (or their bloom formula)..They make some but is targeted toward RO water users....Back in the day, when nutes were not nearly as well balanced, a tbsp of epsom salts fixed it every time (magnesium sulfate)....make sure your ppms are supporting mature plants...If so, most quality nutes will give your plants everything they need....I run my pH at 5.7...PERFECT # for DTW soilless mixes....When that pH is tuned, your plants WILL gobble up the nutes, and show it with lush, green, blemish free leaves...
If you are using RO water, add the calmag....Your RIGHT THERE cause they are far from hurting....A little tuning is all thats needed...YT...
 
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