Would you pay more in taxes to make college/university FREE?

Would you pay more in taxes to make college/university FREE?


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NoDrama

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LMFAO yup, if we don't make all college free right this second, we're going to turn into mexico or nigeria.

Are you fucking retarded or what?
Only a stupid person would believe that we all can be highly paid professionals simply due to education being subsidized. We subsidize all sorts of things and the problems only grow worse. We subsidize corn and ethanol like a mother fucker, but gas prices are near all time highs. We already subsidize Native Americans living on the rez, and if you have ever been there you would wonder which third world country you were in. Subsidies do not help the common person, only the well connected person. Be aware that people on this forum may not have more than 3 brain cells to use, a product of their "mostly Public subsidized education." If government subsidized schooling was so great, why do all the rich people send their kids to private schools? Because private schools are MUCH BETTER.
 

NLXSK1

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I agree. Show me how many people have gotten rich off welfare.

We have spent trillions upon the war on poverty and have not changed a thing.
 

bundee1

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NLSXK1 does Canna's dick taste the same as NoDramas? Cause they seem to be deep into the same shit. Its almost like you're feeding off of each other.
 

Canna Sylvan

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NLSXK1 does Canna's dick taste the same as NoDramas? Cause they seem to be deep into the same shit. Its almost like you're feeding off of each other.
You're sure jealous I get my dick sucked. How come it's so hard for you to find a twinkie of your own?
 

Grandpapy

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Just because you have a degree does not mean you cant dig ditches, collect trash or wash cars for a living.

How do we keep the uneducated from voting? Or do we just continue to let the media manipulate the emotions of millions of "Americans" driving their votes?
How is the dumbing down of citizens good for the country? It's not. It only serves Banking interests.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jan/22/local/la-me-uc22-2010jan22
 

NoDrama

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NLSXK1 does Canna's dick taste the same as NoDramas? Cause they seem to be deep into the same shit. Its almost like you're feeding off of each other.
Government intervention into personal responsibility areas doesn't help our country one bit, in fact it weakens us considerably. If governments purpose was to give you everything you need, then why work or exert any effort if you won't gain anything from it? People on generational welfare have no intention of ever getting off welfare, they will do what is necessary to stay on it. If welfare actually improved anything I might agree with you, but the percentage of people who are homeless or jobless only gets larger and more of a problem as soon as Government tries to make it all better. In fact, since "Welfare" began, there has been no improvement in the percentage of people who are considered poor. Welfare doesn't work, people having personal responsibility to work through their own problems is what improves things. Not everyone who is poor cares to ever be anything but poor.
 

bundee1

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Governments purpose is to provide for what regular citizens can't. Armed Defense, regulation of trade, protection of civil liberties. If it cant level the playing field somewhat then whats stopping me from gathering up a bunch of ex vets and raiding your house? The cops wouldn't be able to stop a surprise attack and kidnapping, because you all probably live miles away from them. This is what is happening in Colombia, Mexico, Turkey. When poverty is so entrenched and there is no hope of things getting better flip the system and get yours. Why is corporate crime any more forgivable than violent crime when corporate crime affects a hell of a lot more people?

The system is rigged for the rich except they dont need guns to steal from me. And this whole "go get a better job" bullshit doesn't dismiss the fact that the rich are changing the system from the inside to benefit themselves.
 

NLXSK1

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  • Why is corporate crime any more forgivable than violent crime when corporate crime affects a hell of a lot more people?​




Show me corporate crime... I dont see it anywhere.

The utility companies are regulated by the government. They have to ask permission to raise their rates.

The mortgage companies offer people the benefit of living in a home for 30 years while paying for it. I never saw someone forced into taking a mortgage out on a house.

The food and beverage companies compete to offer various products that people CHOOSE to buy.

People CHOOSE to work for corporations, small companies, the government, whoever they want to...

Where is the corporate theft?

I can tell you I paid over 3,000 dollars in property taxes for the privilege of owning property. I get to shell that out every year or the government will come and forcibly take the property away from me and auction it off to someone else to pay them.

I pay over 7% of what is left of my income to the state and federal government for the privilege of buying goods and services. There is no choice, I must simply fork it over at point of sale or I am out of luck.

I pay 15% of my income to the federal government which promises to pay me back at some date if I manage to live that long. I dont have a choice, I am forced to pay that money into the system and chances are the program will be modified or closed long before I get my payout. However, if I try to evade that, a government organization will simply loot my bank account, put liens against my property and seize whatever they choose to putting me in the position of guilty before proven innocent in the law.

The government gets the lion's share of profit on every gallon of gas I put in my tank. I pay over 15% tax on my phone bill to the government to subsidize other people's free phones and calls.

I can go on and on about the mandatory confiscation of my income that goes to the real criminals in society and yet you somehow think that corporations are the bad guys. You should feel kind of good that corporations are taxed at the highest rate in the world here for the privilege of earning a profit.
 

Rob Roy

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Governments purpose is to provide for what regular citizens can't. Armed Defense, regulation of trade, protection of civil liberties. If it cant level the playing field somewhat then whats stopping me from gathering up a bunch of ex vets and raiding your house? The cops wouldn't be able to stop a surprise attack and kidnapping, because you all probably live miles away from them. This is what is happening in Colombia, Mexico, Turkey. When poverty is so entrenched and there is no hope of things getting better flip the system and get yours. Why is corporate crime any more forgivable than violent crime when corporate crime affects a hell of a lot more people?

The system is rigged for the rich except they dont need guns to steal from me. And this whole "go get a better job" bullshit doesn't dismiss the fact that the rich are changing the system from the inside to benefit themselves.

Governments purpose is to provide for what regular citizens can't ? Where does government get the money to make these provisions? Where do they get the moral authority to make people do anything but to cease harming others? WHO the fuck appointed anybody the right to control others without their consent?

The rich aren't the only ones that benefit from a shitty system. Anybody that thinks that government can take from others and give to them and it is morally acceptable, seems to be deep in rationalization mode.

Nice avatar, by the way.
 

april

Pickle Queen
It's all very simple....an education empowers u to be the person u pick to be, smart people are problem solvers. They create the environment they want to flourish in and their future is what they make of it. We as a society follow past generations mistakes and allow ourselves to live unhappy dept filled lives working jobs we hate to pay for things we're told we should have.

It's not right that only the wealthy can buy an education, a happy life ;) this should be a free right we all have the option to take.

I'm 2 high and unable to properly express myself... i'll try later lol
 

Canna Sylvan

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It's all very simple....an education empowers u to be the person u pick to be, smart people are problem solvers. They create the environment they want to flourish in and their future is what they make of it. We as a society follow past generations mistakes and allow ourselves to live unhappy dept filled lives working jobs we hate to pay for things we're told we should have.

It's not right that only the wealthy can buy an education, a happy life ;) this should be a free right we all have the option to take.

I'm 2 high and unable to properly express myself... i'll try later lol
The Hooked On Phonics program worked wonders for you.
 

fb360

Active Member
It's all very simple....an education empowers u to be the person u pick to be, smart people are problem solvers. They create the environment they want to flourish in and their future is what they make of it. We as a society follow past generations mistakes and allow ourselves to live unhappy dept filled lives working jobs we hate to pay for things we're told we should have.

It's not right that only the wealthy can buy an education, a happy life ;) this should be a free right we all have the option to take.

I'm 2 high and unable to properly express myself... i'll try later lol
Simple huh.. lol

Sounds like you are for playing Robin Hood, tights too tight.
Nothing is free. If you want a free extended education, read.
 

NoDrama

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Governments purpose is to provide for what regular citizens can't. .
No. Government's purpose is to defend people's constitutional rights, enforce legal contracts and provide for the DEFENSE of the NATION. That's it, everything else belongs to the people or the states.

Government's purpose is NOT to provide you with whatever you and the majority can vote for. This is not a democracy, if it were we would be DOOMED.

The system IS rigged for the rich, they are the ones who own 80% of everything. They got that way because they are smarter than the rest of us, because they weren't taught all that stupid false shit you learn in public school. Public school has an agenda of socialization and adherence to authority, education is the secondary function of public schools, not the primary. Private school's ONLY function is education. Give government all the control over Colleges and Universities and you guarantee mediocrity at the best and absolute failure as the mean, just like all other government meddling in the affairs of men.
 

Doer

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All very true.

There is a certain power that exists called the middle class. So, you have the very rich, an important source of protein. And you have the very poor, very much in need of food.

The stability of a triangle is the only thing that has worked. 3 branches of govt and 3 amorphous, economic classes. A middle class is necessary, and it must be preserved. You look up the econ-math on it.

Think of what's been tried. Warlordism, High Priests, Human Dieties...endless ways of rule.

Rule basically is to keep the irrigation canal free of mud without "not mine, not mine" It's to say when the hunt is over, though no game. Rule is to pass the buck and blame the gods so we don't kill and eat each other.

It's to acknowledge and so Not have to kick everyones ass over and over, but to go as a group to kick some ass.

Some rules so we don't fuck with the other guy because we ARE certainly that stupid. And that other guy will go medieval on your ass, so the rules protect you, also.

So, we have self rule. Very shitty for all. But, I sleep well and the road are paved. I have power and indoor plumbing and the shit just disappears. I can take it easy and be stealthy with my meds and be un-disturbed.

The very word, should, never enters my mind.

What? Me worry? My dentist said the other day, maybe we know too much? Could be?
 

bundee1

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That cocoon of smugness gets you through a lot doesn't it? Too bad it doesn't make you any friends. So retreat to the inner walls of your castle and take comfort in the warmth of the flames surrounding you.

The knock will come soon enough. Whether its on your door or on your head is up to you.
 

Doer

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So, this seems smug? And you are staking, like a poker pot, my friends?...(that I don't have)

And you are predicting a doom of some kind? And that I am just a, completely tuned out, source of future protein?

I'm not sure what the message is. Is it that you read in your own fears and rejections into what I write? Am I tickling some pet peeve?

If so, you can just say what you mean without trying to craft some half-ass, passive/aggressive insult.
 

bundee1

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From your posts you seem to be very happy with what you have and to hell with everyone else. You dont live in a dome and society's problems will catch up to you, not only in your wallet. Next time you get jacked (car, weed, or just robbed) please turn to the person and tell them "You aren't trying hard enough son" Im sure they will respect everything you've done in your life and consider your advice.

People
 

bundee1

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People escape poverty despite all the apathy and sometimes roadblocks put in place by people like you.
 
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