yellow and bronzing continues, help

Gdub51

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Label says 7 to 10 day intervals and if you do the math the maximum dosage in a season is the WHOLE BOTTLE!. I did my second coat after 7 days. 1 plant is still sick but all the rest are fine. All have improved. If I just lose one or it is just limited in production I will feel lucky. Temps purported to be over 100 here today. Last time the plants wilted after about 15min. at over 100'. I misted this A.M. and moved to the shadiest spots I could find. If they wilt again I have no choice but to lug them all indoors again. Wife will kill me. So I choose, which shall live....and which suffer....hmmm
 

Beachwalker

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Label says 7 to 10 day intervals and if you do the math the maximum dosage in a season is the WHOLE BOTTLE!. I did my second coat after 7 days. 1 plant is still sick but all the rest are fine. All have improved. If I just lose one or it is just limited in production I will feel lucky. Temps purported to be over 100 here today. Last time the plants wilted after about 15min. at over 100'. I misted this A.M. and moved to the shadiest spots I could find. If they wilt again I have no choice but to lug them all indoors again. Wife will kill me. So I choose, which shall live....and which suffer....hmmm
.. dude in the long run choose the wife believe me! :wall: LOL! I'm very impressed with the results it stopped it cold but am also burning sulfur twice a week as well

I also have one strain somewhat affected, but it seemed to have stopped it cold, it's an OG raskal Afghani AKA Cali Connection og la affie, it has very little resistance, sadly it's one of my very favorite smokes

The others have if any, very small amounts on one or two bottom leaves which I shall pluck forthwith!

How far into flowering are you comfortable using this product?
 

Gdub51

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.. dude in the long run choose the wife believe me! :wall: LOL! I'm very impressed with the results it stopped it cold but am also burning sulfur twice a week as well

I also have one strain somewhat affected, but it seemed to have stopped it cold, it's an OG raskal Afghani AKA Cali Connection og la affie, it has very little resistance, sadly it's one of my very favorite smokes

The others have if any, very small amounts on one or two bottom leaves which I shall pluck forthwith! DON'T REMOVE AFFECTED LEAVES UNTIL COMPLETELY WILTED...I'VE HEARD YOU WANT TO PRESERVE WHAT USEFULNESS THEY HAVE PRODUCING CHLOROPHYLL BECAUSE OF DEFOLIATION. LEAVE EM TILL THEY COME OFF EASILY WITHOUT A BLADE.

How far into flowering are you comfortable using this product?
I am stopping with the last app. today. Total 3 doses. Now 10 days into flower. So glad to hear it worked for you too. I'm also happy that we were able to decide on the fix after all the grief here over what we thought was wrong. Certainly would like to have been able to determine what exactly it was, but some fungus was amungus for sure. Just don't use the "S" word here, it really pisses some off. When flushing followed by Cal/mag supplementation did not work, the next logical choice was fungus. The plants were certainly not deficient and if locked out the flushing should have helped that. I'd quit your treatment now since it seems to be working as I'm paranoid about getting any mineral leftovers in the flowers. I'll wash off the plant next week to flush off the last of the copper oil residue and then leave them dry till harvest in Sept/Oct. The stuff also treated some powdery mildew I had on my hydrangeas. GROW ON!
 

Beachwalker

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I am stopping with the last app. today. Total 3 doses. Now 10 days into flower. So glad to hear it worked for you too. I'm also happy that we were able to decide on the fix after all the grief here over what we thought was wrong. Certainly would like to have been able to determine what exactly it was, but some fungus was amungus for sure. Just don't use the "S" word here, it really pisses some off. When flushing followed by Cal/mag supplementation did not work, the next logical choice was fungus. The plants were certainly not deficient and if locked out the flushing should have helped that. I'd quit your treatment now since it seems to be working as I'm paranoid about getting any mineral leftovers in the flowers. I'll wash off the plant next week to flush off the last of the copper oil residue and then leave them dry till harvest in Sept/Oct. The stuff also treated some powdery mildew I had on my hydrangeas. GROW ON!
Yeah but like everywhere else there's a lot of people can't find their ass with both hands so forget about it, that's all..

Took me a long time chasing this bullshit, just like you, before figuring out what it was, eventually got rid of it but this year, man! Humidity has been piqued for days, it's been raining on and off every day and right now it's sunny now upper 80s & the humidity is higher than the temperature! ..this is a bad year on the New England coast weather wise
 

Beachwalker

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I am stopping with the last app. today. Total 3 doses. Now 10 days into flower. So glad to hear it worked for you too. I'm also happy that we were able to decide on the fix after all the grief here over what we thought was wrong. Certainly would like to have been able to determine what exactly it was, but some fungus was amungus for sure. Just don't use the "S" word here, it really pisses some off. When flushing followed by Cal/mag supplementation did not work, the next logical choice was fungus. The plants were certainly not deficient and if locked out the flushing should have helped that. I'd quit your treatment now since it seems to be working as I'm paranoid about getting any mineral leftovers in the flowers. I'll wash off the plant next week to flush off the last of the copper oil residue and then leave them dry till harvest in Sept/Oct. The stuff also treated some powdery mildew I had on my hydrangeas. GROW ON!
I would recommend Bud washing at Harvest, there's a few good threads on here, you basically wash in a hydrogen peroxide solution and then rinse in Clear water, I do that anyway most of the time but if I'm going to be using this stuff I'll be doing a really intense wash too!
 

Gdub51

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Yeah but like everywhere else there's a lot of people can't find their ass with both hands so forget about it, that's all..

Took me a long time chasing this bullshit, just like you, before figuring out what it was, eventually got rid of it but this year, man! Humidity has been piqued for days, it's been raining on and off every day and right now it's sunny now upper 80s & the humidity is higher than the temperature! ..this is a bad year on the New England coast weather wise
I remember humidity, I used to live in Chicago. (Now SoCal.) We've had record heat, into the 100's and had to move the plants inside as I've said. I'm interested to see what the most fungus effected plants can produce now that it's controlled. The worst look like they have been very heavily pruned, almost lollipop-ed.
 

Beachwalker

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I remember humidity, I used to live in Chicago. (Now SoCal.) We've had record heat, into the 100's and had to move the plants inside as I've said. I'm interested to see what the most fungus effected plants can produce now that it's controlled. The worst look like they have been very heavily pruned, almost lollipop-ed.
I hear that I've had some that it's totally decimated I had a remo chemo which was a sparce, lanky thing anyway and it looked like his stick!:cuss: I had to get rid of it because there was nothing left to it, I've got a cut from it and a second remo in veg that seem unaffected, going to flower them late fall when humidity is back to normal

Right now it's praying on my l a o g affi, it also liked my White Rhino Cross, however some others seem not affected at all..

I'm going to get my average three ounces per with this current batch, but the last few that were heavily affected gave me about half that..
 

Beachwalker

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I'm also going to start using mykos again because I believe that makes a big difference in not only root health (aka. Yield) but overall health including helping fend off the "S" word lol, and I'm going to start putting a little neem oil & b vitamins (superthrive) in my feeding water as well
 

Beachwalker

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I remember humidity, I used to live in Chicago. (Now SoCal.) We've had record heat, into the 100's and had to move the plants inside as I've said. I'm interested to see what the most fungus effected plants can produce now that it's controlled. The worst look like they have been very heavily pruned, almost lollipop-ed.
I used to love Southern Cal weather I lived in Glendale for a while in the 80s, lived up and down the whole Coast actually but settled in Scenic downtown Glendale LOL your current heat wave is freaky though, never had anything like that when I was living there, barely saw the 90s

So anyway the second application of copper went on Saturday, plants in veg got neem, sulfur burn coming up in the morning, all seem to be fine, and I added mykos too, should help
 

Gdub51

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Here's one example of what about 20 min. at over 100'F. did to my grow. The whole grow spent the next 48 hours indoors and bounced right back. Second image is the same plant today, now in the 80's again. Flowers are busting out! Started kelp extract and molasses treatments this week to help with heat resistance and moisture retention. I have to go away for a week and I'm getting worried about water retention. I've seen the local pro-farmers cover their soil with plastic wrap (with a hole for the stalk of course) to hold moisture down. Ever hear of such a thing for cannabis? Or any suggestions how to maintain moisture over say four days without a drop (I have one volunteer coming once during the week)? I got some peat moss for covering but it will dry in hours. By the way Beach, my mother's side came from Glendale, Mom was a stand in for Shirley Temple. Dad was in SoCal working on the war effort (one of the designers of the Northrop flying wing) when he met my Mom. I am an inventor, what do you think of water balloons, made out of a dissolving material (rice paper?) that release their water over a prescribed time...like 48 hours later...??
 

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Beachwalker

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Here's one example of what about 20 min. at over 100'F. did to my grow. The whole grow spent the next 48 hours indoors and bounced right back. Second image is the same plant today, now in the 80's again. Flowers are busting out! Started kelp extract and molasses treatments this week to help with heat resistance and moisture retention. I have to go away for a week and I'm getting worried about water retention. I've seen the local pro-farmers cover their soil with plastic wrap (with a hole for the stalk of course) to hold moisture down. Ever hear of such a thing for cannabis? Or any suggestions how to maintain moisture over say four days without a drop (I have one volunteer coming once during the week)? I got some peat moss for covering but it will dry in hours. By the way Beach, my mother's side came from Glendale, Mom was a stand in for Shirley Temple. Dad was in SoCal working on the war effort (one of the designers of the Northrop flying wing) when he met my Mom. I am an inventor, what do you think of water balloons, made out of a dissolving material (rice paper?) that release their water over a prescribed time...like 48 hours later...??[/QUOTE]

Well dissolving water balloons ..or you could try these? Screenshot_20180731-165350.png



..that plants looking much better in that picture very nice! :mrgreen:
 
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