Yesterday's Mass Shooting.

Republicans lash out against Senate gun bill and each other
GOP lawmakers in the House are tearing apart a Senate gun control package crafted by a bipartisan group of senators, lashing out at fellow Republicans who support the legislation in the process.

Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), co-chair of the Second Amendment Caucus, called the 14 Senate Republicans who voted to advance the legislation on Tuesday RINOs — Republicans in name only.

“We all know that Bernie Sanders is going to vote to take away your guns. He ran on that platform. But I do think that it’s surprising some of the other 14 Senators who ran on preserving Second Amendment rights, have decided to turn their back on their commitment,” Boebert said in a press conference Wednesday.

“I’m sure we’ll even see some in the House, unfortunately, who have touted their support of the Second Amendment and Americans to have the right to keep and bear arms and they will fold,” Boebert said.

“We did not anticipate that we will be playing defense against the Republican senators on preserving the Second Amendment,” said Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), the other co-chair of the Second Amendment Caucus.

Former President Trump also weighed in, calling Sen. John Cornyn (Texas), the lead Republican negotiator, a “RINO.” Trump also criticized Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who is backing the measure.

The red flag funding provision is evoking the most pushback from gun rights advocates.

“Red flag laws permit the preemptive seizure of firearms from Americans without due process by allowing any person to report a gunowner to law enforcement and petition for the confiscation of that individual’s firearms, even before the gunowner has an opportunity to defend themselves,” the House Freedom Caucus said while announcing its formal opposition to the bill on Tuesday.

McConnell, one of the 14 Republican senators who backed the legislation, defended the measure, calling it “a commonsense package of popular steps that will help make these horrifying incidents less likely while fully upholding the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens.”

Massie, who represents a district in McConnell’s home state, said the Senate GOP leader was acting in his capacity as minority leader rather than as a senator representing the conservative state of Kentucky.

Rep. Dan Bishop (R-N.C.) said that McConnell is playing to the ideological middle in order to build a slim majority.

“I personally don’t think that’s what America wants or needs. I think America is looking for people who will come out and explain to the people, remind them what the foundation of the Second Amendment is, why it exists, why we’re free substantially because of it,” Bishop said. “I believe that produces victories in the election far more than chasing the last vote.”

House GOP leaders will formally whip members to vote against the bill.

A House GOP whip check notice calls the legislation part of “an effort to slowly chip away at law-abiding citizens’ 2nd Amendment rights.”

The bill “transforms law-abiding citizens under the age of 21 into second class citizens by creating a de facto waiting period of up to ten business days for legal, law-abiding firearm purchases,” the whip check notice said.

Five things to know about the Supreme Court’s ruling on concealed carry
he ruling strikes down New York’s requirement for people to show ‘proper cause’ for concealed carry permits

New York had required individuals to show “proper cause” to obtain a permit for carrying a handgun outside of the home.

Otherwise, they could only receive a “restricted” license to carry in specific circumstances.

Without a statutory definition of “proper cause,” New York courts had set the standard as demonstrating “a special need for self-protection distinguishable from that of the general community.”

That standard often required people to show evidence of threats or attacks to receive a permit.

Six justices on Thursday called that burden inconsistent with Second Amendment protections.

“We know of no other constitutional right that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need,” Justice Clarence Thomas wrote in his majority opinion.

The ruling is the court’s widest expansion of gun rights in more than a decade
Thursday’s ruling marks the biggest expansion of gun rights since the Supreme Court decided District of Columbia v. Heller in 2008.

In that case, the court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to possess a firearm outside of a militia when using it for traditionally lawful purposes, like self-defense within the home.

The justices noted in Heller that the Second Amendment was “not unlimited” but left the door open to what could be deemed constitutionally permissible restrictions.

Legal experts say Thursday’s ruling overhauls a good portion of previous Second Amendment doctrine.

“The court’s decision today will have major ramifications for gun regulation across the country — effectively making it more difficult for the government to regulate firearms,” said Jared Carter, a constitutional law expert and assistant professor at Vermont Law School.

The ruling could cause challenges to the bipartisan gun deal
The court’s ruling comes as the Senate advances a bipartisan gun safety deal that appears poised to pass the upper chamber later this week.

The deal does not include any provisions related to concealed carry permits, but some legal experts are casting doubt on the package’s constitutionality under the legal framework of Thursday’s ruling.

They note how the court ruled that the government must demonstrate gun regulations are “consistent” with the country’s “historical tradition.”

“Only if a firearm regulation is consistent with this nation’s historical tradition may a court conclude that the individual’s conduct falls outside the Second Amendment’s ‘unqualified command,’” Thomas wrote in the majority opinion.

Adam Winkler, a professor at UCLA School of Law, raised doubts about the court upholding red flag laws, which allow courts to confiscate weapons from someone deemed a danger to themselves or others.

“A law like a red flag law — part of the Senate compromise — is a new modern innovation,” he said. “There is no historical tradition of taking guns away from people who are in crisis.”

He also raised alarm bells about the legislation’s closing of the so-called boyfriend loophole. The legislation would expand existing regulations that prevent abusers in certain circumstances from obtaining a firearm to abusers in romantic and dating relationships.

“Closing the boyfriend loophole is now called into question by this opinion, because there’s no historical regulation of prohibiting boyfriends who engage in domestic violence from possessing firearms,” Winkler said.

Trump: McConnell's 'Push' for 'Gun Control' Is 'Final Straw'
As the Supreme Court overturned New York's restriction on conceal carry permits, former President Donald Trump weighed in on Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's "push" for gun control, calling it the last straw Thursday.

"Mitch McConnell's push for Republican senators to vote for gun control will be the final straw," Trump posted on Truth Social after the Supreme Court decision was delivered, protecting New Yorkers' Second Amendment right to bear arms.

Trump noted McConnell has been giving "away" things in negotiations with Democrats and getting "nothing in return" that supports the Republican ideals.

"Just like he gave away the debt ceiling and got nothing in return, or handed the Dems a great sound bite and victory with the infrastructure bill, which is actually all about the Green New Deal, he is now forcing approval of the first step in taking away your guns!" Trump's statement continued.

"Republican senators should not vote for this career-ending bill!" Trump's statement concluded.

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Trump: McConnell's 'Push' for 'Gun Control' Is 'Final Straw'
As the Supreme Court overturned New York's restriction on conceal carry permits, former President Donald Trump weighed in on Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's "push" for gun control, calling it the last straw Thursday.

"Mitch McConnell's push for Republican senators to vote for gun control will be the final straw," Trump posted on Truth Social after the Supreme Court decision was delivered, protecting New Yorkers' Second Amendment right to bear arms.

Trump noted McConnell has been giving "away" things in negotiations with Democrats and getting "nothing in return" that supports the Republican ideals.

"Just like he gave away the debt ceiling and got nothing in return, or handed the Dems a great sound bite and victory with the infrastructure bill, which is actually all about the Green New Deal, he is now forcing approval of the first step in taking away your guns!" Trump's statement continued.

"Republican senators should not vote for this career-ending bill!" Trump's statement concluded.

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more sage words from alito..."well the law didn't stop a shooting in new york"...really? this silly ass fucking argument from the supreme court? that's just sad and disappointing...but of course, so is everyone on it except for sotomayor...

Lawrence: ‘The Texas Coverup Is Collapsing’
170,035 views Jun 23, 2022 MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell explains how the attempt to cover up what happened inside Robb Elementary School in Uvalde is falling apart after Texas officials point the blame at each other.

Police arrest San Antonio man who said he planned to commit mass shooting
Texas authorities said they have arrested a man who said he planned to commit a mass shooting.

San Antonio Police Department (SAPD) said an Amazon factory worker informed authorities about the threats her colleague, Rodolfo Valdivia Aceves, made in recent days, according to San Antonio affiliate KSAT.

The worker told authorities that after a fire alarm went off at the San Antonio-based facility, the 19-year-old Aceves, who worked as a subcontractor, told her that it would be a good idea to pull the fire alarm to have employees exit the building so an individual can commit a mass shooting, KSAT reported.

Aceves then expressed his interest to commit a massacre, the female employee reportedly said.

The employee also told police that Aceves thought the Uvalde, Texas elementary school shooter, Salvador Ramos, was an “idol” to him, adding that he is going to school where her children attended and shoot it up after she told him about it, according to KSAT.

The employee added that she decided to tell her bosses about the situation even though she feared retaliation from Aceves, noting that she thought he could follow through with his repeated threats, police said.

Aceves was taken into custody by police on Monday and was charged with making a terroristic threat, which is a third-degree felony, KSAT reported.

President Biden signed the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act on Saturday, marking the first legislation to address gun violence in nearly 30 years.

A Bipartisan group of Senators drafted the legislation in response to the recent string of mass shootings that happened in Uvalde and Buffalo, N.Y.

SAPD said that Aceves’ father told authorities that his son had a series of mental health problems and was placed in a mental health facility twice at the age of 16, adding that family members were concerned when he purchased an assault rifle due to his past behavioral problems.

Aceves is booked and remains in custody at the Bexar County Jail where he is being held on a $50,000 bond, KSAT noted.

"placed in a mental health facility twice at the age of 16, adding that family members were concerned when he purchased an assault rifle due to his past behavioral problems"

And I am sure some would say he should be able to buy a gun.

Looks like the cops beat the shit out him, he surrendered after negotiations. No burger for this guy.
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Three law enforcement officers were killed and five others wounded in eastern Kentucky when a man with a rifle opened fire on police attempting to serve a warrant, authorities said.

An emergency management official was also injured and a police dog was killed during the confrontation at a home in Allen, a small town in the hills of Appalachia.

Police took 49-year-old Lance Storz into custody late Thursday night after an hours-long standoff.

The responding officers encountered “pure hell” when they arrived on the scene, the sheriff of Floyd county, John Hunt, told reporters Friday afternoon.

“They had no chance,” said Hunt, whose jurisdiction includes Allen.

Hunt said four deputies initially responded, and they called for backup when they were shot at. Storz surrendered after negotiations that included his family members, the sheriff said.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Looks like the cops beat the shit out him, he surrendered after negotiations. No burger for this guy.
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Three police die in Kentucky shooting while serving domestic violence warrant

Officers encountered ‘pure hell’ at scene, sheriff says, before man taken into custody after hours-long standoff

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Three law enforcement officers were killed and five others wounded in eastern Kentucky when a man with a rifle opened fire on police attempting to serve a warrant, authorities said.

An emergency management official was also injured and a police dog was killed during the confrontation at a home in Allen, a small town in the hills of Appalachia.

Police took 49-year-old Lance Storz into custody late Thursday night after an hours-long standoff.

The responding officers encountered “pure hell” when they arrived on the scene, the sheriff of Floyd county, John Hunt, told reporters Friday afternoon.

“They had no chance,” said Hunt, whose jurisdiction includes Allen.

Hunt said four deputies initially responded, and they called for backup when they were shot at. Storz surrendered after negotiations that included his family members, the sheriff said.

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well, a redneck with a rifle resisted arrest? WHO GIVES A FUCK? he has a right to that rifle, and anyone who tries to take it away from him deserves what they get

Roger A. Shrubber said:

well, a redneck with a rifle resisted arrest? WHO GIVES A FUCK? he has a right to that rifle, and anyone who tries to take it away from him deserves what they get

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Vote republican for more of the same, how many of those cops were republicans? Republican cops are another example of people who fuck themselves by voting against their own self interests. Yeah, like guns everywhere and AR15s on the street make their jobs safer and less stressful.

I was just commenting that after his negotiated surrender, the cops appear to have laid a beating on him for killing their buddies. I never said they should do anything about it, but his lawyer probably will.

He stood his ground according to state law and defended his 2nd amendment rights from big gubberment. I expect he will be the new hero of the right, why not, they worship Trump.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Vote republican for more of the same, how many of those cops were republicans? Republican cops are another example of people who fuck themselves by voting against their own self interests. Yeah, like guns everywhere and AR15s on the street make their jobs safer and less stressful.

I was just commenting that after his negotiated surrender, the cops appear to have laid a beating on him for killing their buddies. I never said they should do anything about it, but his lawyer probably will.

He stood his ground according to state law and defended his 2nd amendment rights from big gubberment. I expect he will be the new hero of the right, why not, they worship Trump.

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it may be one of those mind bending conundrums for republicans..."He's a good, wife beating, gun loving suburban white guy.
We should probably run him as vice president...Except he didn't kill innocent people at a protest, he killed three cops, right when it looks really bad for us, with all the mass shootings our incredibly stupid gun laws have allowed to happen."

Roger A. Shrubber said:

it may be one of those mind bending conundrums for republicans..."He's a good, wife beating, gun loving suburban white guy.
We should probably run him as vice president...Except he didn't kill innocent people at a protest, he killed three cops, right when it looks really bad for us, with all the mass shootings our incredibly stupid gun laws have allowed to happen."

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Well at least this one got a beating and not a burger on the way to jail like Dylan Roof

Here's today's 4th of July murderer at a Trump rally, who isn't surprised?
Who wants to bet he is taken into custody without a scratch on him?
The GOP will make a hero out him in some demented way.

captainmorgan said:

Here's today's 4th of July murderer at a Trump rally, who isn't surprised?
Who wants to bet he is taken into custody without a scratch on him?
The GOP will make a hero out him in some demented way.



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captainmorgan said:

Here's today's 4th of July murderer at a Trump rally, who isn't surprised?
Who wants to bet he is taken into custody without a scratch on him?
The GOP will make a hero out him in some demented way.



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He's too white for 50 slugs, depending on the color of his victims, he could have got treated to a burger on the way to jail.

On the radio today they mentioned that this guy had phoned a Mental Health line or something just previous to the act.

Dorian2 said:

On the radio today they mentioned that this guy had phoned a Mental Health line or something just previous to the act.

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Whodathunkit?

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Whodathunkit?
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They don't all look like that. My Mom worked at a Mental Hospital and took me to her Ward when I was a teen. While we walked a Doctor started asking how I was etc. Mom told me after that it wasn't a Doc. Was one of her patients.

Dorian2 said:

They don't all look like that. My Mom worked at a Mental Hospital and took me to her Ward when I was a teen. While we walked a Doctor started asking how I was etc. Mom told me after that it wasn't a Doc. Was one of her patients.

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i got caught with a QP in highschool, back in 81. sent for "evaluation" at a drug rehab clinic, which was attached to the Fergus Falls state mental hospital...we were in a separate building, but had to go through the main building for meals, school, to see a doctor...that was an interesting 90 days, eating in a huge cafeteria, that would seat something like 300 people, and 90 percent of them were lifers...

He's in custody, the cops probably took him through a McDonald's for dinner, killing people will work up a appetite.

captainmorgan said:

Here's today's 4th of July murderer at a Trump rally, who isn't surprised?
Who wants to bet he is taken into custody without a scratch on him?
The GOP will make a hero out him in some demented way.



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He looks a lot like a liberal to me. Scoping out the joint. Maybe they should have had vets as security for the parade? It works for schools.