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Nugachino said:

Okay. So males are a waste of time unless I want pollen. Or to knock up my girls, right?

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Yep males are only good in the same area if you plan on breeding. Its all good man. We all get spaced sometimes. Btw I wish you a successful grow and hope it exceeds your expectations.

Cheers @VenomGrower6990. All the same to you too. I'll keep you all posted. Even the fails.

Nugachino said:

Cheers @VenomGrower6990. All the same to you too. I'll keep you all posted. Even the fails.

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Awesome im subbed up.

Nugachino said:

Cheers @VenomGrower6990. All the same to you too. I'll keep you all posted. Even the fails.

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the fails is how we all learn to grow

Yes. Well. My previous attempts have taught me that one caterpillar can usually mean there's more around. Water needs to be used sparingly. Heat isn't your friend. And my dog is an asshole.

Here's hoping these ones survive.

As per usual. I'm fucking shit up.

I put 200ml of runoff from my bacterial composter into 500ml of water then sprayed the entire contents into my 11 litre bucket.

A day later I noticed one has what looks like nute burn. And the other now has purpling through its new growth.

I flushed a litre of rain water through it. And tested the runoff from that. pH 8.5 again. So. Yeah. Once again I've got to try and bring the pH back between 6-7... gah!

The distance from my 90w GrowSmart is about 40cm @ 80% power. And the cab Temps have been 19-30°c.


She's not looking too good. What's the prognosis Dr. Riu?

I went and checked on my plants later in the day to find that the yellowing one, even more so than before. The other plant seems relatively normal still. Despite the little purple tinge on new leaves.

I decided to reread the instructions on the pH tester box again. Turns out I'd been doing it wrong. Took the readings way too soon. Which I'm guessing is where my problems began.

After checking both the bag soil and the bucket soil. I found out I'd pushed the bucket alkalinity right up. And the bag soil was pretty much close to neutral.

So. Not only have I been over watering. I've also been overdoing everything else too.

I took out most of the bucket soil and mixed it with the bag soil. Taking extra care not to damage the roots of both plants as I dug around them.

The healthier of the two seedlings was moved into a smaller bucket. And the sicker of the two stayed in the larger bucket. Which is now under the back porch with a glass dome over the top to protect against temperature fluctuations and bugs. Also to offer less intense light while it recovers.

Starting to think I should have done more reading prior to starting this grow. Aaaand. Maybe have a bit more patience.

Sorry about the long post.

too much love is how most of us killed our plants in the beginning,

I suggest you stop checking PH, stop feeding and just let them grow....

water them when they start too droop and not before, feed them when the start going pale green.

let's be honest, u have already hurt the seedlings so this round will not be your best.

Instead take the time to learn to read ur plants and learn to clone.

in anycase I'm sure you will impress yourself if you just take your foot off the gas for a bit and the the engine idle

Yeah man. I'll be going easier on them from now on. As for the healthier seedling. It was a bit more limp after the transplant. However. It has its spring back now.

I also modified the small bucket before the transplant. So that it more resembles an air pot. And have added about 10 holes to the bottom for drainage.

I waited til the soil felt dry a good inch below the surface. Before watering. Now the leaves are looking funny... what the fuck? I'm only using rain water.

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I waited til the soil felt dry a good inch below the surface. Before watering. Now the leaves are looking funny... what the fuck? I'm only using rain water.

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If you mean the older leaves still look funny, don't worry about them. They aren't going to heal. It's the new growth that you have to watch, and those little guys (thus far) look perky and green as far as I can see. I'm with @weed-whacker on this one. Keep with the water until they show signs of needing a feed.

Hmmm. Okay. So it's a case of the plant has decided they're too damaged and is only focused on the new growth?
Guess I should only worry if the yellowing progresses up the plant.

For the most part, yes. The main thing is that the new growth doesn't follow the same curve. New, green growth usually means that the plant is regulating properly and fixing itself. Just keep an eye out for more yellowing/mutated/clawed leaves.

That's what I was worried about. And largely because I don't quite know whether the pH test is being read accurately. So I can't tell if my soil is where I think it is pH wise.

Do you pH your rain water? I would say that you pH your water to 5.8-6.0 roundabouts and do a good flush after they have dried up. Really try to get your soil back to square one before feeding them anything. See where they sit after a couple days and go from there. If you are questioning your pH meter, I would get a good new one. Also keep in mind, I'm new to this as well, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Do some googling. Usually straightens me out anyway!

Also, one thing you might want to look in to getting is an EC meter to look at the parts per million of your rain water or tap water or what have you. This will tell you just how clean the water you're feeding your plants really is. Depending on your location, city or well water can have all sorts of dissolved solids in there that are best avoided in relation to your plants like chlorine or sulfur. This isn't totally necessary but I know that some people are very technical and find that it helps. Just a thought!

I've got this two part pH tester that uses some green staining liquid and barium powder for readings. I swear the shit doesn't work. I've tried to figure out the pH with it.

I've been looking into getting a 4-6 in 1 digital ppm, temp, ec... blah blah blah meter to figure it out that way.

Thing is. I don't know at what price range they go from junk to decent. Because I've never even used one.


Thanks for the help. I'm gonna need it.

Essentials do a good ph meter at a reasonable price. You don't anything for temps but worth spending on PH meter and EC meter.

There ya go! But hey. @coreywebster you could use the temp meter to make your water/nute mix consistent at the same temp? I read somewhere that it makes a difference. You know anything about that?

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There ya go! But hey. @coreywebster you could use the temp meter to make your water/nute mix consistent at the same temp? I read somewhere that it makes a difference. You know anything about that?

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You are right there, I apologise, I very rarely think about water temp these days. I grow in coco and let my water each room temp by leaving it 24 hours, only ever did a few DWC and NFT systems. But yes it is very important in any hydro system. Probably to a lesser degree in soil or soilless too.