3 Compassion Clubs RAIDED!!

deprave

New Member
Lets all hope to god they win their case and are pretty well within the law because if they don't it is only going to hurt everyone in the MMM community.

Sure they had some ridiculous prices but we need a win in the court systems and maybe we can get some clarifications on some grey areas
 

deprave

New Member
They are saying they wanted a "test case"

One day after an investigation that resulted in 15 arrests, the closure of two medical marijuana dispensaries and the seizure of approximately $750,000 worth of marijuana products, Oakland County Sheriff Michael Bouchard spoke about what he sees as a growing problem.

During a Thursday afternoon press conference, Bouchard touched on many topics related to the drug raid, ranging from the specifics of the law to the details regarding Wednesday night’s police activity.

“This is Michigan,” Bouchard said. “This is not a Cheech and Chong movie.”

Ferndale’s Clinical Relief medical marijuana dispensary, 362 Hilton, was among the establishments that were raided Wednesday by undercover officers with Oakland County’s Narcotics Enforcement Team.

Police action may not have come as a surprise to employees there. Bouchard said the Sheriff’s Office recently warned those at the facility that police believed they were participating in illegal activity.

Undercover officers bought marijuana at the facility without a medical marijuana card, which is required for a legal purchase of the drug. Marijuana was also being sold in the parking lot, and undercover officers witnessed hand-to-hand drug deals.

Other drugs were also confiscated, and the owner had solicited others to buy high-end marijuana to sell in the establishment, Bouchard said.

“There were many commonalties with what we regularly see in drug houses,” Bouchard said. “One place had live alligators walking around protecting the product.”

The evidence was on display for the media, ranging from jars of a wide variety of marijuana strains and marijuana plants to candy, cookies, sugar and lollipops, along with several guns

Waterford Township’s Everybody’s Cafe, was raided under similar circumstances Wednesday, after officers purchased marijuana without proper credentials there. Police also raided multiple residence, though the locations of those homes were not released.

Many arrest details are not yet available because no suspects have been arraigned. Arraignment could be as soon as today Phillips 8/26/10 (FRIDAY), Bouchard said.

“(Marijuana is) illegal to use except in certain, limited circumstances,” Oakland County Prosecutor Jessica Cooper said during the press conference. “In Michigan, it is very limited.”

Limits include a cap on plants per patient (12) and patients per caregiver (5). Patients are not able to purchase the drug legally from anyone other than their designated caregiver, and marijuana plants must be maintained in an enclosed, locked facility.

“No dispensaries are authorized,” Cooper said. “No co-ops are authorized.”

She said the state’s medical marijuana act is quite different from that of other states, like California.

“Most of the population does not understand that,” Cooper said. “Medical marijuana is an exception (that has been) carved out for people who have a debilitating disease.”

Both Bouchard and Cooper agreed that the statute needs clarification. They suggested changes that might make the law clearer.

“New Jersey has one state-run dispensary,” Cooper said. “That would eliminate the need for caregivers and eliminate the need for growers.”

Bouchard said a tamper-proof medical marijuana card with a photo ID should be required. A photo is not required on the current cards.

“There’s no way an officer or a deputy can verify that it’s a valid card,” Bouchard said.

Law enforcement officials don’t want to deal with the issue, Bouchard said, noting that enforcement can be costly and require many resources.

“We don’t want to deal with this at all if it’s within the scope of the law,” Bouchard said. “It’s going to divert a lot of precious resources from things we could and should be doing. This is not something we should be spending a lot of time and money on.”

Bouchard said in his opinion, voters decided that people who were suffering deserved to have their pain lessened when the measure passed in Nov. 2008.

“This has gone far (away) from that,” he said. Patients have received medical marijuana cards for things such as stomachaches and shoulder pain, Bouchard said, while others have taken the opportunity to “take an illegal operation and give it the air of legality.”

An investigation is ongoing and more arrests could be made. Suspects could face charges like possession of marijuana with intent to deliver and manufacturing marijuana, with penalties ranging from 90 days to 15 years imprisonment.

“This is a clear abuse of Michigan’s medical marijuana exemption,” Bouchard said. “It will get nothing but worse. There will be more problems unless the legislature does its job.”
 

deprave

New Member
It makes me wonder did this Bouchard guy/gal just skim thru the laws for 20 minutes really quick or something or is this politically motived jargon he is spitting in this statement?
 

deprave

New Member
these cops are gunna get there fucking asses handed to them in court lol maybe they should read the laws over properly instead of just skimming thru?

Sorry for all the posts it wont let me edit
 

venacular

Well-Known Member
Well, I dont mean to change the subject. I just want to let you all know. Here in Washington state the law states 15 plants for 1 patient but there is a 60 day supply that contradicts everything. The doctor who issued my medical authorization also told me that some patients may need more or less than 15 plants to get to a 60 day supply. He sated "it depends on your ability" and told me to "have as many plants as I need to produce a 60 day supply". Well if I wanted does that mean I can have 30?

I didn't say these things to muck up your thread, only to show how the law is being used in my state. Even talking to a layer can produce conflicting reports. I just continue as though my actions are illegal, like they were prior to my medical authorization. I tell NO one, do everything privately, and I don't try to make any money form it. Why cant we all just be happy that we get a low cost, self sufficient, and no side affect medication. If you think about it medical marijuana has been needed for years. There is no pharmacy bought drug that can boast the same pro's besides acetaminophen. Which doesn't even cover the many uses that marijuana does.
 

deprave

New Member
I have come to the prediction that they are trying to challenge all the medical marijuana laws basically because they dont like them or for political motive....

They will be challenging at the least:
1) Patient to Patient transfers
2) If paperwork constitutes being valid when it is easily faked
3) Co-Ops
4) Dispensaries


Its interesting to note that it doesnt seem they stand much of a chance to me..
 

rzza

Well-Known Member
them challenging it only means its gonna be defined better so its a good thing imo.
 

puffntuff

Well-Known Member
Those fucking idiots deserve that shit. Selling overpriced swag to undercover cops. WTF it's morons like that that make the states stay away from mmj.
 
you guys need to google affirmative action defense if you are worried over quznities and 60 days supply.

I am glad anyone that acts outside of the law is being busted, this isnt the wild wild west, we have laws given to us by the people of Michigan and I am glad they voted for it.
Stay within the law and you have NOTHING to fear and my patients expect me to stay within the law and as their caregiver I pledged I would.
 

axl

Well-Known Member
do u guys really think they will come knocking on the doors of every name found in their records?
 

Smokey Bandit1

Well-Known Member
I have called that number and left my opinion on this heinous act that directly effects sick people that require there daily needs for there medication.Michigan needs to open there eyes and see the bigger picture which is the economics of this industry.Just this week the Gov of Colorado tapped into the Marijuana Registry to the tune of 9 million dollars to help cover Colorado government services and cover the deficit.



Smokey
 

Serapis

Well-Known Member
I think it's funny how many are knocking the cops on this one when they have proof people are selling dope to others that have no valid MMJ card. Also, according to him, dispensaries and co-ops are not within the law. You have to buy your meds from your caregiver and no one else... Whats so hard to understand?

The actions of a few may very well cause the laws to get repealed, not move forward.
 

rzza

Well-Known Member
here is whats so hard to understand...
(e) A registered primary caregiver may receive compensation for costs associated with assisting a registered qualifying patient in the medical use of marihuana. Any such compensation shall not constitute the sale of controlled substances.
that doesnt say it needs to be your patient.
(g) A person shall not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including but not limited to civil penalty or disciplinary action by a business or occupational or professional licensing board or bureau, for providing a registered qualifying patient or a registered primary caregiver with marihuana paraphernalia for purposes of a qualifying patient's medical use of marihuana.
neither does that^^^
(k) Any registered qualifying patient or registered primary caregiver who sells marihuana to someone who is not allowed to use marihuana for medical purposes under this act shall have his or her registry identification card revoked and is guilty of a felony punishable by imprisonment for not more than 2 years or a fine of not more than $2,000.00, or both, in addition to any other penalties for the distribution of marihuana.
this also says its ok.
 

rzza

Well-Known Member
oh and also, all we know is that the undercovers didnt present them with proper credentials im assuming that means the card, they probably had fake paperwork. read the fine print, the media has to make it look like the raid was indeed warranted.
 

baddfrog0221

Active Member
I was wondering how they went about purchasing from the dispensary without the proper credentials. Any place I have been makes sure to check you information and make a photocopy. I want to see some police reports and charges that are being filed. I think they had someone who was legal go in and purchase. They had a ringer waiting outside to purchase from the legal patient. When the swap was made the cops bust in and take down the patient then go into the dispensary. Just an idea but I really don't understand why a dispensary would just risk selling to someone without ID.
 

Unclejoe51

Member
My understanding is that they were selling to people without cards. If they were, then thats against the law & is not helping our cause here in Michigan. We are trying to establish something thats LEGAL !! Yeah I know, growing is fun & a lot of us
have been soing it for a long time, but... Thats not the issue here. The issue is, until this all gets sorted out & there are no longer any gray areas, we all have to watch our asses to make sure that we aren't the giunea pig. Personally, I have 2 patients & one of them was taking almost 200 Norco's a month until, I started making oil & GIVING not selling it to him. He's down to about 50 a month now & actually gets some sleep. His wife tells me that this is the most sleep he's gotten at one time in years. Makes me feel good.
 
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