the united states is no longer respected by the rest of the world

ttystikk

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Funny thing is, people including freakshow Buck, don't realize this country morphs as quick as it needs to. There are too many moving parts and a lot of umpredictabliltiy. Kindalike the stock market.
There will be great resistance and foot dragging until there's no way to deny it any longer, then the change will happen quickly.

The strategy is to hasten that day.
 

buzzardbreath

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There will be great resistance and foot dragging until there's no way to deny it any longer, then the change will happen quickly.

The strategy is to hasten that day.
Sounds like the definition of a revolution. Our system is setup not to let that happen. Well, ...maybe it is.
 

ttystikk

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Sounds like the definition of a revolution. Our system is setup not to let that happen. Well, ...maybe it is.
I'm not talking about armed revolt. I'm talking about changing the political leadership so as to get rid of Citizens United, on the way to doing much more.

If we don't, our country will continue to get worse for the 90% even while the 10% wonder why they aren't doing as well as they once were.
 

see4

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The Left needs a real agenda that resonates with voters, otherwise it will just be a repeat of '16.

Rolling back neoliberalism and focusing on reversing income and wealth inequities would be a great start.
3 million more leftists voted for their candidate than did Republicans and the morons who thought Hillary was "icky".

What we need is do away with gerrymandering, electoral college, citizens united and only allow individuals with IQs over, say... 90, vote.

People need to stop being lazy and go look up information for themselves. People also need to stop thinking politics is a game. It's not. You can thank shitty 24 hour news channels for that. Someone needs to shoot Ted Turner in the dick.

Ok, done, I'll get off my soap box now.
 

Rob Roy

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3 million more leftists voted for their candidate than did Republicans and the morons who thought Hillary was "icky".

What we need is do away with gerrymandering, electoral college, citizens united and only allow individuals with IQs over, say... 90, vote.

People need to stop being lazy and go look up information for themselves. People also need to stop thinking politics is a game. It's not. You can thank shitty 24 hour news channels for that. Someone needs to shoot Ted Turner in the dick.

Ok, done, I'll get off my soap box now.

If a persons I.Q. is 180 can they vote twice?
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
3 million more leftists voted for their candidate than did Republicans and the morons who thought Hillary was "icky".

What we need is do away with gerrymandering, electoral college, citizens united and only allow individuals with IQs over, say... 90, vote.

People need to stop being lazy and go look up information for themselves. People also need to stop thinking politics is a game. It's not. You can thank shitty 24 hour news channels for that. Someone needs to shoot Ted Turner in the dick.

Ok, done, I'll get off my soap box now.
Good shit. I approve!
 

Bear420

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Bill Maher used some numbers that forced a Republican operative to question the current state of GOP policies eventually. Watching her, in this excerpted video, in effect throw her hands up in the air and concede was unexpected but inevitable. Funny.

Bill Maher put S.E. Cupp on the spot, and she eventually ran out of the ability to defend the inconsistencies of the Republican base. The discussion started with Maher asking a rhetorical question about the Republican's being stupid. Rep. Seth Moulton (D-MA) pointed out that his Republican colleagues are not stupid but that they lacked courage.

Maher read a couple of results from a recent Pew Poll that gave a distinctly different impression about the GOP base. It made it quite obvious that the GOP voter is hyper-partisan, so much so that it clouds their ability to think objectively. It is that reality that allows them to be so easily deceived by their politicians.

Bill Maher pointed out that even though the economy has not changed in any meaningful way under Trump, Republicans magically believe it is doing much better. When Obama wanted to bomb Syria, only 22% of Republicans approved. Now 88% approve of Trump bombing Syria. The income tax has not changed under Trump. Yet, Republicans went from it being 39% fair to 56% fair. Democrats answers remained statistically the same.

"They are more tribal," Bill Maher said of Republicans. "I am sorry. And they are less concerned with observable reality. That seems like, there are facts in there that say that."

S.E. Cupp tried to pass those numbers on as hypocrisy apparent in both parties. Maher would have none of it. He decried the false equivalence that permeates the traditional mainstream media.

S.E. Cupp had no choice but to concede
S.E. Cupp finally got real.

"There is hypocrisy to go around," S.E. Cupp said. "But the hypocrisy on the Right has been incredibly disturbing and obvious. I don't have amnesia as a Republican."

She then said she remember when they said it was wrong to do executive orders. Cupp said she remembered when they thought that expanding the debt was no good."

Even with that, she was resistant to moving past the false equivalence. But Maher forced the issue about Republicans being more partisan and tribal. She finally did.

"Certainly right this moment it definitely feels that way," Cupp said.
 
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