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Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
no one can make you own and operate a store, robbyboy.
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Actually if somebody or something can make you buy insurance or be penalized....anything is possible.

However, even if nobody makes you engage in a given business, instructing you how and with whom you will interact, and on which terms, price setting, licensing etc. if you do engage in that business, are limitations that involve force or threats of force.

How many things that you like from your super daddy coercive government occur without force or the threat of it?
Can you name one thing that doesn't ?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
Because your whole capitalist religion revolves around property rights, you think that human rights are derived from "self ownership". Your entire faith was crafted by neofeudalists who want to "justly acquire property" and they have fooled you into accepting the axiom of "self ownership" in order to turn you into property.

You have it all wrong, because you are an acolyte of the cult of Rawn Pawl. People are not property.

Now, since you are simply going to keep suggesting that we're saying the same thing, I am just going to promise you that I won't swear an oath at your holy imperial feudal altar of fealty to the property gawds. Here it is again nice and slow so that you don't compare this post to rape.

People
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Okay, again, I think we agree... people are not property in the sense that they are dissimilar from other non human property. I've always maintained that. I don't think you or I can own others, nor can anyone own us.

People are a kind of property in the sense that the individual has the right of dispositioning himself, just as he / she has the right to disposition their own justly acquired property, but not that of others. In that sense each individual has a right of "property" in themself.

So I'm not seeing much of a distinction in how we view people and their rights pertaining to themselves.

It seems like our differences arise in how we view non human property. You consistently avoid describing what that kind of property is and how it is made, acquired, traded etc.

So, which things can be property ? Which things cannot?

Do you own anything at all?
 
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Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
I'm flying to Manila in 10 days and I would thank you for the tax dollars, but you get even more welfare than I do, so I'll thank UncleBuck, since he does pay taxes.
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Welfare? Nice try.

However a good illustration of defining how one entity, your government, treats other humans like property. So, yes, do thank Slave Uncle Buck for picking your cotton while you stay on the porch and sip mint juleps on his dime talking anarchism.


If you'd like to have an opportunity to teach me or possibly learn from me... How about telling me what property is, how it can be made, acquired or owned?
 
UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
Actually if somebody or something can make you buy insurance or be penalized....anything is possible.

However, even if nobody makes you engage in a given business, instructing you how and with whom you will interact, and on which terms, price setting, licensing etc. if you do engage in that business, are limitations that involve force or threats of force.

How many things that you like from your super daddy coercive government occur without force or the threat of it?
Can you name one thing that doesn't ?
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thanks for admitting that i am right. no one can make you own or operate a store and thus interact with those blacks you hate so much, robbyboy.

can you really even own a gun if you're not allowed to shoot black kids with it?
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
thanks for admitting that i am right. no one can make you own or operate a store and thus interact with those blacks you hate so much, robbyboy.

can you really even own a gun if you're not allowed to shoot black kids with it?
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I give you a D- for creativity. You're losing it...Meathead.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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NoDrama said:
How could the earth possibly withstand all that animal shit? Animals have been shitting on the earth for millions of years, how come the earth isn't just a giant shit ball by now?
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Perhaps you aren't paying attention. The earth is a giant shit ball
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
I don't know why you would eat there, disgusting.
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So, we agree that people can't own other people despite the varying ways we have described it.

Do we agree that individual people can own things? Things they have made, use or acquired via consensual human interactions?

Can you describe what property is and isn't ?



If the questions get too hard, I could stupid them up a bit for you.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Rob Roy said:
So, we agree that people can't own other people despite the varying ways we have described it.
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No, I'm the one saying people can not be property, you're the one saying that human rights are derived from the fact that people are property. Property and rights don't mean the same thing bro. Your retarded neofeudalist cult of Rawn Pawl is fucking up your head.

Inb4 some fedora wearing neckbearded brony with cheeto residue on his fingers compares this post to rape.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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abandonconflict said:
No, I'm the one saying people can not be property, you're the one saying that human rights are derived from the fact that people are property. Property and rights don't mean the same thing bro. Your retarded neofeudalist cult of Rawn Pawl is fucking up your head.

Inb4 some fedora wearing neckbearded brony with cheeto residue on his fingers compares this post to rape.
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Nice sidestep. I notice you want to focus on this moot point rather the questions you run from regarding what property is or isn't.

Also, I think I made it clear people can't own other people (in a just world anyway), but they can and should "own" themselves and they can own other things can't they?
 
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