Light Quantity vs Light Quality Evidence ... Just for 4 u gg lol!

[Yodaweed]

i bet you wanna fondle my nugz,cup them gently please,or ya might knock off the trichs.you need to lose the attitude and pay attention around here.these led guys could teach you some trichs lmao,made me bust out my keeper wifi #4 or maybe you like all those pretty colors in #5.? you might wanna up yer camera game once you dial in that ice shanty haha
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3rd pic from the end,notice the gnats cant even survive my fosty goodness

Sweet buds ,those look better quality. Not very impressed with those other pics tho, barely any frost and i am smoking and growing buds like these you posted on the regular. I even got pics of you'd like. I got two different wifi phenos both are super frosty and great yielders , love that strain.

 

[sixstring2112]

well just so you know pretty looking trichs aint the end all to good pot.i grow for 12 people and every one of them will pick the masterkush in the first set of pics over that frosted out wifi.and your wrong about the quality of the mk lol

 

[sixstring2112]

maybe theres a reason i have been growing this cut since late 2009 ?

 

[thenotsoesoteric]

How much better does it really get?

 

[Yodaweed]

well just so you know pretty looking trichs aint the end all to good pot.i grow for 12 people and every one of them will pick the masterkush in the first set of pics over that frosted out wifi.and your wrong about the quality of the mk lol

I know that , entourage effect , still wouldnt mess with that plant not enough frost for me even if it tastes great i would move on from it. I just moved on from a great smoking plant (banana sherb x tangie x romulan ) that just didnt make my cut.

 

[sixstring2112]

I know that , entourage effect , still wouldnt mess with that plant not enough frost for me even if it tastes great i would move on from it.

further proving your very low experience level in growing.im sorry man but you just dig yourself deeper and deeper into the bullshit hole every time you post.you keep on trying to bs your way around inverse square law and that silly word you use"penetration" and then show me one lil nug that looks like you used a dirty polaroid from 1989 to take the pics .nobodys buying your web of lies.that kind of talk may work in the newbie section but these led guys are a pretty bright group lol.i been growing for going on 30 years,worked in and around 800 acre farms with greenhouses yet in the past year just reading this one section of this site i have learned more than i could have imagined.you need to open your mind if you want to take it to the next level.that means your grow,your knowledge of lighting,and your picture taking skillz.peace im done with you,we all know its like talkin to a brick wall and your just not very credible.and you still havent answered one simple question about growing under double ended lamps lol.i can say i have exp in every type of lighting except plasma and induction,including many years of outdoor way before it was legal anywhere in this country

 

[Yodaweed]

further proving your very low experience level in growing.im sorry man but you just dig yourself deeper and deeper into the bullshit hole every time you post.you keep on trying to bs your way around inverse square law and that silly word you use"penetration" and then show me one lil nug that looks like you used a dirty polaroid from 1989 to take the pics .nobodys buying your web of lies.that kind of talk may work in the newbie section but these led guys are a pretty bright group lol.i been growing for going on 30 years,worked in and around 800 acre farms with greenhouses yet in the past year just reading this one section of this site i have learned more than i could have imagined.you need to open your mind if you want to take it to the next level.that means your grow,your knowledge of lighting,and your picture taking skillz.peace im done with you,we all know its like talkin to a brick wall and your just not very credible.and you still havent answered one simple question about growing under double ended lamps lol.i can say i have exp in every type of lighting except plasma and induction,including many years of outdoor way before it was legal anywhere in this country

You are just another dumb ass hater enjoy growing your B quality.

http://www.leafscience.com/2014/09/11/medical-marijuana-entourage-effect/
BTW what i said is based on fact.

 

[sixstring2112]

lol again,you cant even argue on your own,nice work on the vast bank of bookmarks you pretent to know something about haha.yes the entourage effect,effectively makes my mk cut more effective than your chuff.now shut up and learn.

 

[MeGaKiLlErMaN]

I cant do it. The best I've done was 2.25 vended units off 1000 watts of Phillips DE bulb with 31 days veg. Sorry to disappoint you. Im doing my best to become a better gardener.

Doesn't have to be you anyone will do that has grown that much with HPS, I've seen a few people get slightly over 1g/w but nothing near 1.6

 

[MeGaKiLlErMaN]

You are just another dumb ass hater enjoy growing your B quality.

http://www.leafscience.com/2014/09/11/medical-marijuana-entourage-effect/
BTW what i said is based on fact.

Just read that and thought everyone knew it. But this has nothing to do with light quality/quantity. I looked through your grows and you can grow, but if you hit 1g/w with HPS you can hit way more with cobs. You need the newer tech not the CXA. Those work but there's no reason to say people live in a Fanticy land until you see what people are doing. I linked a grow that got 1.6g/W and it wasn't a large area but it can be applied over one.

 

[Olive Drab Green]

Here's last night, 5 weeks in. Still 5 weeks or so left. Does this look like 241w of LED? Pretty sure I'm going to achieve well over 1 GPW.



Legitimately asking what you guys think.

 

[RM3]

Doesn't have to be you anyone will do that has grown that much with HPS, I've seen a few people get slightly over 1g/w but nothing near 1.6

I have a friend that hits 1.7~1.9 regularly with 600's in a vert garden

 

[Olive Drab Green]

I have a friend that hits 1.7~1.9 regularly with 600's in a vert garden

You should show them what your tanning booth does.

 

[Dr.Nick Riviera]

@Yodaweed i bet you wanna fondle my nugz,cup them gently please,or ya might knock off the trichs.you need to lose the attitude and pay attention around here.these led guys could teach you some trichs lmao,made me bust out my keeper wifi #4 or maybe you like all those pretty colors in #5.? you might wanna up yer camera game once you dial in that ice shanty haha
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3rd pic from the end,notice the gnats cant even survive my fosty goodness

don't mean to butt in, but those are HPS lights I see in your pic, You're not trying to pull a fast one are you?

 

[wietefras]

Please don't drag me into the kind of argument you are having about this. I linked this particular paper because it shows the answer lies in the middle.

It usually does.

It doesn't. At best it shows that both quantity and quality have an effect. Which is obviously so. No one ever stated the opposite and that's never what the discussion was about.

The point is that what topicstarter claims is complete bullshit. He claims that:
- reducing the light quantity by almost half gives you the same yield
- with similar light intensity, HPS yields substantially less than LED

Both are complete nonsense and only demonstrate that his experiment was a complete bust.

 

[wietefras]

try again. reflectors in a good fixture reflect over 95% of the light that hits them. re strike loss is also a myth.perhaps you should study wave mechanics, antenna theory and the effect of standing waves on a generator.LEDs to experience loss from secondary lenses of 5 to 10%

The material reflects 95% of the light on a single bounce. That doesn't mean the reflector as a whole emits 95% of the total light from the tube. Some light will reflect upwards and reflect back into the bulb. Or it will need multiple bounces.

Sphere tests have shown that even the Pro Gavita reflectors lose around 18% of the light emitted from a HPS bulb. And those are even more reflective material than used for a simpel TL reflector

 

[Olive Drab Green]

It doesn't. At best it shows that both quantity and quality have an effect. Which is obviously so. No one ever stated the opposite and that's never what the discussion was about.

The point is that what topicstarter claims is complete bullshit. He claims that:
- reducing the light quantity by almost half gives you the same yield
- with similar light intensity, HPS yields substantially less than LED

Both are complete nonsense and only demonstrate that his experiment was a complete bust.

1. Ethylene (The flowering hormone) is released at night, and light causes it to dissipate. I run my lights 10/14 in flower because of this.

2. Watts are a measurement of consumption, not output intensity. And COBs, watt for watt, are more intense than HPS, as far as produced light, photosynthesis, respiration, and metabolism are concerned. HPS is old school incandescent HID, and uses its watts to excite and heat gas particles to create light whereas COBs are solid state and use electroluminescence which doesn't utilize heat to create light.

 

[sixstring2112]

don't mean to butt in, but those are HPS lights I see in your pic, You're not trying to pull a fast one are you?View attachment 3864169

yeah was trying to prove a point about frost/trichomes vs good pic/bad pic .kinda got drug into a retard exchange with the resident tard lol

 

[ttystikk]

don't mean to butt in, but those are HPS lights I see in your pic, You're not trying to pull a fast one are you?View attachment 3864169

Lol the one is still glowing!

 

[MeGaKiLlErMaN]

I have a friend that hits 1.7~1.9 regularly with 600's in a vert garden

Oh well dont use LED then, Use that lol

Unless the veg Time is like 3 months then youre still loosing over the course of a year.

Can you link to his grow?