Cannarado genetics

TerrapinBlazin

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If he posted the leaves or been to that thread (many of) he should be able to tell fungus gnats on his plant. :rolleyes:
I am positive they are fungus gnats. I’ve been trying to get rid of them with nematodes but that hasn’t worked. I need to try a bacterial treatment. I could always blast the tent with spinosad but that’s never been permanent. Cloth pots are tricky in my climate. Too dry. The only thing I can think is that the root system is having trouble getting established and I think some more inert starter mix should help.
 

JewelRunner

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I am positive they are fungus gnats. I’ve been trying to get rid of them with nematodes but that hasn’t worked. I need to try a bacterial treatment. I could always blast the tent with spinosad but that’s never been permanent. Cloth pots are tricky in my climate. Too dry. The only thing I can think is that the root system is having trouble getting established and I think some more inert starter mix should help.
Maybe put landscape fabric at the bottom of your pots next time. Anything to restrict their access to the soil. They’re much easier to deal with if they’re restricted to the surface of a pot
 

ChronicWonders.

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Neem oil soil drench or bT/mosquito dunks really cut down on them as well. Nematodes are awesome too, but typically expensive and not worth it IMO just for fungus gnats. I can tell you it’s probably not the fungus gnats causing the issue. Especially if you’re in an organic soil where there’s plenty of other food material besides the root mass. Likely soil pathogen/fungus or bad/hot soil.
 

madvillian420

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I am positive they are fungus gnats. I’ve been trying to get rid of them with nematodes but that hasn’t worked. I need to try a bacterial treatment. I could always blast the tent with spinosad but that’s never been permanent. Cloth pots are tricky in my climate. Too dry. The only thing I can think is that the root system is having trouble getting established and I think some more inert starter mix should help.
im battling them as well. I bought some pot popper nematodes that only contain 1 million per packet so i used 2 per plant, a few days after applying them i hit the dirt and bottom trays with a heavy dose of diatomaceous earth and put a bunch of huge sticky traps all over, a 3 punch combo that has lowered their numbers from dozens to the point im almost gnat worry free. I let two of my plants with gnats get out of control last grow, and the leaves clawed downwards in a weird way and i think it even affected the bud structure as it was a clone from a strain ive grown before
 

Panaelous

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Neem oil soil drench or bT/mosquito dunks really cut down on them as well. Nematodes are awesome too, but typically expensive and not worth it IMO just for fungus gnats. I can tell you it’s probably not the fungus gnats causing the issue. Especially if you’re in an organic soil where there’s plenty of other food material besides the root mass. Likely soil pathogen/fungus or bad/hot soil.
Idn about not worth it go on nature’s good guys there like 15-20 $ for an application I use once a week I haven’t seen a bug only when I bring in new dirt and there gone also look up tanlin drops
 

Panaelous

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im battling them as well. I bought some pot popper nematodes that only contain 1 million per packet so i used 2 per plant, a few days after applying them i hit the dirt and bottom trays with a heavy dose of diatomaceous earth and put a bunch of huge sticky traps all over, a 3 punch combo that has lowered their numbers from dozens to the point im almost gnat worry free. I let two of my plants with gnats get out of control last grow, and the leaves clawed downwards in a weird way and i think it even affected the bud structure as it was a clone from a strain ive grown before
Yea In between watering don’t over water if you use nematodes keep moist but not saturated use tanlin drops in between watering kills gnats similar to diatomaceous earth but they eat it and die in the soil look up nature’s good guys cheap if you have under 1000 plants 15 a use and you can use as often as weekly I do it’s worth it
To me
 

ChronicWonders.

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Idn about not worth it go on nature’s good guys there like 15-20 $ for an application I use once a week I haven’t seen a bug only when I bring in new dirt and there gone also look up tanlin drops
Definitely cheaper than I remembered. Have ordered a few times from them as well. Thought they were like $80
 

madvillian420

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Yea In between watering don’t over water if you use nematodes keep moist but not saturated use tanlin drops in between watering kills gnats similar to diatomaceous earth but they eat it and die in the soil look up nature’s good guys cheap if you have under 1000 plants 15 a use and you can use as often as weekly I do it’s worth it
To me
ive always wondered how harmful they are in small numbers, My plants seem to be doing great with the few that are left
 

Panaelous

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The diatomaceous earth will kill the beneficial stuff as well unfortunately though.
Kills nematodes I don’t think so they live under the soil I’m sure it could but I always apply once a week nematodes so I don’t need diatomaceous earth applications maybe once if I upsize but I pasteurize all my medium before it goes in my rooms then I reinoculate with good guys like mycos vam nems going good
 

TerrapinBlazin

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I think I’ll start with some DE on top of the soil and around the base of the pots and a couple new sticky traps. I bought some of the nature’s good guys nematodes from the local nursery a while back but I think I might have diluted it too much.


Kills nematodes I don’t think so they live under the soil I’m sure it could but I always apply once a week nematodes so I don’t need diatomaceous earth applications maybe once if I upsize but I pasteurize all my medium before it goes in my rooms then I reinoculate with good guys like mycos vam nems going good
Nice to see a fellow mycology enthusiast in here. I noticed your name a while back. I would love to do it this way but I just don’t have the space to run a big pasteurization setup. I guess if the DE and sticky traps don’t bring them down to a manageable number (they’re just bad in one tent) I’ll buy more nematodes. I don’t see why DE would harm them.
 

Panaelous

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I think I’ll start with some DE on top of the soil and around the base of the pots and a couple new sticky traps. I bought some of the nature’s good guys nematodes from the local nursery a while back but I think I might have diluted it too much.




Nice to see a fellow mycology enthusiast in here. I noticed your name a while back. I would love to do it this way but I just don’t have the space to run a big pasteurization setup. I guess if the DE and sticky traps don’t bring them down to a manageable number (they’re just bad in one tent) I’ll buy more nematodes. I don’t see why DE would harm them.
Yea I have no bugs important to stay ordering them they last a month I order once a month when my last one is getting used worth it 60 I water every plant in the house incoming stuff everything gets hit
 

Panaelous

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I am positive they are fungus gnats. I’ve been trying to get rid of them with nematodes but that hasn’t worked. I need to try a bacterial treatment. I could always blast the tent with spinosad but that’s never been permanent. Cloth pots are tricky in my climate. Too dry. The only thing I can think is that the root system is having trouble getting established and I think some more inert starter mix should help.
Start watering with sns 209 and also order tanlin drops last forever and works amazing and nematode all organic too apply diatomaceous earth once a week they will be gone by end of the week just water house plants to when you start this treatment there’s no where to go you will see random ones around house watch then they are gone
 

Panaelous

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Yea I have no bugs important to stay ordering them they last a month I order once a month when my last one is getting used worth it 60 I water every plant in the house incoming stuff everything gets hit
I use this 4 times a month 5 million maybe overkill but that’s how I like my fungus gnats

The three pack specifically can’t be to safe you can get it even cheaper maybe if you buy one seperate but you could get away with using once a month with other stuff or twice a month with a little stuff or every week and not have to use chemicals also get that sns in there blood nothing will want them and it’s just Rosmaric acid
 
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TerrapinBlazin

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I use this 4 times a month 5 million maybe overkill but that’s how I like my fungus gnats

The three pack specifically can’t be to safe you can get it even cheaper maybe if you buy one seperate but you could get away with using once a month with other stuff or twice a month with a little stuff or every week and not have to use chemicals also get that sns in there blood nothing will want them and it’s just Rosmaric acid
That’s the exact one I bought from the nursery. I only used it once and maybe I should order a case.


The website is restocked btw with Grumpz Xs
Grumpz cross now and wait for the new MacBook, or the other way around? Tough call. I was going to drop like $1500 for the better GPU and RAM upgrade. I guess another 108 for a pack of blinker fluid won’t stretch me too thin. I stuck one of those in my cart just now.
 

TerrapinBlazin

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I’m a fan of bt, since it’s indoor and it will knock off other baddies in the soil. Same for the nematodes. Biological treatment FTW!
I’ve looked into using it outdoors for caterpillars but never tried it inside. If these fungus gnats stay at their current levels I’ll have to try something else, although the DE I sprinkled on the floor of the tent last night seems to have gotten a bunch of them. I’ll buy a couple new sticky traps too when I get the jiffy mix for the grumpz.
 

colocowboy

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I’ve looked into using it outdoors for caterpillars but never tried it inside. If these fungus gnats stay at their current levels I’ll have to try something else, although the DE I sprinkled on the floor of the tent last night seems to have gotten a bunch of them. I’ll buy a couple new sticky traps too when I get the jiffy mix for the grumpz.
Off topic on a side note, I love your username and avatar! Awesome!
 
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