Will You Take The Vaccine?

Are you going to take the corona virus vaccine?

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nuskool89

nuskool89

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mooray said:
Giving it to someone else.
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DIY-HP-LED said:
Food for thought and something for the vaccine "hesitant" to consider, also perhaps some of the reason for the panic on the right about vaccines and a sudden change in attitude. This also makes me wonder abut the CDC's guidance on masks.
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Delta variant is one of the most infectious respiratory diseases known, CDC director says

Delta variant is one of the most infectious respiratory diseases known, CDC director says (cnbc.com)


KEY POINTS
  • The delta Covid variant is one of the most infectious respiratory diseases seen by experts.
  • Currently, the more infectious variant makes up more than 83% of sequenced cases in the U.S.
  • 97% of people admitted to hospitals with Covid symptoms are unvaccinated.
The delta Covid variant is one of the most infectious respiratory diseases ever seen by scientists, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Thursday.
The variant is highly contagious, largely because people infected with the delta strain can carry up to 1,000 times more virus in their nasal passages than those infected with the original strain, according to new data.

“The delta variant is more aggressive and much more transmissible than previously circulating strains,” CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky told reporters at a briefing Thursday. “It is one of the most infectious respiratory viruses we know of, and that I have seen in my 20 year career.”

The delta variant has spread quickly through the U.S., accounting for more than 83% of sequenced cases in the U.S. right now, up from 50% the week of July 3.

The seven-day average of new cases is up about 53% from last week, currently at 37,674 new cases per day. Hospitalizations are up 32% from last week at about 3,500 per day and deaths have also increased 19% in the same time frame to about 240 per day.

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“This virus has no incentive to let up, and it remains in search of the next vulnerable person to infect,” Walensky said.

The virus is ripping through U.S. counties with low vaccination rates, while counties with high vaccination rates are seeing lower rates of new cases.
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Wow I read this same article just before responding earlier. It prompted me to look over at the UK. Delta has been dominant over there for months. This article

www.imperial.ac.uk

Coronavirus infections rising exponentially in England - REACT study | Imperial News | Imperial College London

The number of people infected with the coronavirus is increasing rapidly in England, doubling every 11 days.
www.imperial.ac.uk www.imperial.ac.uk

shares a study done on 100,000 British that determined between May and June, Delta was already 90% dominant. Sure enough, if you look at the daily deaths on google they have in fact ticked up since May. In a positive light though, the percentile increase compared to prior upward swings is now exponentially lower. Children, who are unvaccinated, fortunately didn’t die or become hospitalized with the new variant:

www.google.com

Covid: Children's extremely low risk confirmed by study

The overall risk of death is around two in a million children, scientists looking at England's data estimate.
www.google.com www.google.com

So that’s why the consideration of “who” is infected at this point matters too, and should provide a sense of optimism. If our elderly population is vaccinated, our at risk population is vaccinated or continuing to adhere to their personal safety requirements, the return to normal doesn’t necessarily hang solely on the “unvaccinated.”
 
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nuskool89 said:
Great response and all valid points. I remember reading about several isolated incidents in US cities with at-capacity ERs for periods of time; was it Boston? Also stories of elderly Italians over a certain age being turned away/told to stay at home when Italy was really getting hammered. You seem skilled at finding it, is there data that hospitals kept showing what capacity the ER was at week over week? Itd be interesting to see a nationwide graph showing what percentage of ERs were near or at capacity through the worst times to see how close we were to passing/failing stress tests in the whole syste

That same subject about patients with other needs (knee replacement or heart procedures not getting treatment) directly affected me last summer. But not because the hospitals were at capacity, rather the one I needed was intentionally kept empty as possible through restrictions on procedures allowed. Though, I don’t really fault state or local officials for mandating certain restrictions or being “too safe” in the first part of covid, as we lacked data.

I also wonder how many people died because they didn’t seek treatment/testing for whatever ailed them, over fear of being exposed if they went to the hospital.
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There is a site that kept track of covid that I liked but they quit collecting data as it looked like covid was beat. Or at least it seemed.

Our Data | The COVID Tracking Project

"In the past few months, our teams spent extra time researching federal datasets that cover the metrics we have been tracking for a year in the various wings of our project, and have assembled a series of guides to the data produced by federal public health agencies. Our data summary page will soon link to a directory of comparable federal datasets and dashboards. We have also collected links to all our posts about federal data, along with recordings and slides for six training sessions on various federal datasets, to help our data users make the transition to federal data. For everyday users, we’ve written a short primer on easy-to-use federal COVID-19 datasets and interpretations that can take the place of our daily tweets and weekly updates."

covidtracking.com

Analysis & updates | Federal COVID Data 101: How to Find Data

covidtracking.com covidtracking.com

I haven't checked out the link they give, this is the first time I noticed it. As the site says, it is not easy to get all the information as some states do not collect or publish some data. Another site that used to have ICU capacity and other data is now reporting on vaccinations and risk level.

https://covidactnow.org/?s=20911012

Articles on covid here, I wonder about some of their advertising but I guess you have to pay the bills.

www.thailandmedical.news

Home - Thailand Medical News

Thailand Medical News
www.thailandmedical.news www.thailandmedical.news
 
nuskool89

nuskool89

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Yep you found it. Within that COVID tracker site was this:

protect-public.hhs.gov

HHS Protect Public Data Hub

Discover, analyze and download data from HHS Protect Public Data Hub. Download in CSV, KML, Zip, GeoJSON, GeoTIFF or PNG. Find API links for GeoServices, WMS, and WFS. Analyze with charts and thematic maps. Take the next step and create StoryMaps and Web Maps.
protect-public.hhs.gov

but it looks like it’s not active either? Unless it just won’t load for me
 
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nuskool89 said:
Yep you found it. Within that COVID tracker site was this:

protect-public.hhs.gov

HHS Protect Public Data Hub

Discover, analyze and download data from HHS Protect Public Data Hub. Download in CSV, KML, Zip, GeoJSON, GeoTIFF or PNG. Find API links for GeoServices, WMS, and WFS. Analyze with charts and thematic maps. Take the next step and create StoryMaps and Web Maps.
protect-public.hhs.gov

but it looks like it’s not active either? Unless it just won’t load for me
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Tried it and it would not finish its thing, but then again my desktop is on its last legs with Win 10 and the virus software.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Fox News Backtracks As Covid-19 Surges

The Biden administration and experts are sounding the alarm about how media misinformation is contributing to the recent rise in cases of the coronavirus. Experts argue politicizing the vaccine and discouraging its use undermines this key safety method at the very same time the nation could have put the virus on its back for good. MSNBC’s Ari Melber breaks down Fox News’ mixed messaging on the virus and the cost of this kind of false rhetoric.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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nuskool89 said:
Yep you found it. Within that COVID tracker site was this:

protect-public.hhs.gov

HHS Protect Public Data Hub

Discover, analyze and download data from HHS Protect Public Data Hub. Download in CSV, KML, Zip, GeoJSON, GeoTIFF or PNG. Find API links for GeoServices, WMS, and WFS. Analyze with charts and thematic maps. Take the next step and create StoryMaps and Web Maps.
protect-public.hhs.gov

but it looks like it’s not active either? Unless it just won’t load for me
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You seem to understand this information as badly as some of your kind undemand reports from Israel's heath services.

You guys are a death cult.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Fox News Backtracks As Covid-19 Surges

The Biden administration and experts are sounding the alarm about how media misinformation is contributing to the recent rise in cases of the coronavirus. Experts argue politicizing the vaccine and discouraging its use undermines this key safety method at the very same time the nation could have put the virus on its back for good. MSNBC’s Ari Melber breaks down Fox News’ mixed messaging on the virus and the cost of this kind of false rhetoric.
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"switch off news and the epidemic just goes away"
 
CunningCanuk

CunningCanuk

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nuskool89 said:
Because that’s not how our immune systems work. You don’t go through life living in a bubble. You are constantly exposed to viruses, bacteria, and fungi and your immune system is the sum of the response to that exposure.

I understand your point, I’m not advocating the dismissal of taking precautions with personal health choices. I have nothing against vaccines and look forward to the further development of even more effective implementations.

My point in any of this is not signing on to alarmism and conspiracy, from either political spectrum.

I am not a Republican, I am not a democrat. Too far either way results in foolish world views and blinds people with vitriol toward the “other side.” How easy it is to manipulate populations into a “us vs them” mentality is far more concerning to me than Covid ever will be. I cannot sign on to the wide brush painting of individuals who vote a certain way.

I bring up Delta deaths and hospitalization rates because it’s important to keep real numbers in perspective when going about our daily lives. I am not a pessimist
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Dumb.

You don’t have to die from covid to have it ruin your life.

globalnews.ca

Montreal study to examine long-term effects of COVID-19 - Montreal | Globalnews.ca

Over a year, researchers will follow 200 people who were sick with the virus, to better understand why they continue to experience certain symptoms long after being first infected.
globalnews.ca globalnews.ca

I’m sure you’ll be ok though…
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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Budley Doright said:
Ya I mentioned that earlier re polio......I just don’t get it :(. I’m getting the shingles shot next month as well just to be safe.
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i've been kinda waiting for this covid to let up a bit but the shingles vax is on my to do list as well. i htink it's a 2 shot series ??
 
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