Why Do People Laugh At Creationists?

Luger187

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You cannot prove a negative. Therefore no one can prove God doesn't exist. And it's a lot easier to find evidence in support of creationism. Versus what? Darwin? I mean, that old eugenics-fool never even knew what DNA was and I'm supposed to take his views seriously? Meanwhile Holy books declared scientific facts thousands of years before their "scientific discoveries." So, who cares who's laughing? People think they're so "different" to be anti-Creator and it's more pitiful than anything. When typically people don't talk on subjects they know nothing about politics and religion seem to be the exception. Tisk.
this made me lol
Darwin may not have known about DNA. but im sure if he did, it would cement his belief in evolution. i dont have to prove god doesnt exit... u must prove that he DOES. the only thing anyone has to 'prove' that god exists is the bible, which doesnt offer ANY proof at all
 

H2grOw

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ISAIAH 40:22 It is he who sits above the circle of the earth,

This statement was made 2800 years ago. Far before anyone ever made any such claims. The next closest in history is [FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Sans-serif,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Eratosthenes.[/SIZE][/FONT]
OK, so there is proof in the bible that the earth is a sphere, yet Galileo was charged with herasy and was sentenced to life in prison. Why do this if it was stated to be so in the bible?

And as far as your quote goes, It could also apply to an astronaut. I guess I now have proof that Neil Armstrong is God. Anyone want in on my new church?
 

Tym

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ISAIAH 40:22 It is he who sits above the circle of the earth,

This statement was made 2800 years ago. Far before anyone ever made any such claims. The next closest in history is [FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Sans-serif,sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Eratosthenes.[/SIZE][/FONT]
Even Isaiah contradicts your assertion.

Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH.

A circle is not a sphere.. Why didn't he say "the earth is like an apple" or something more descriptive? Why does he talk about it having corners?
Other places it talks of the earth on pillars..

The concept of a spherical Earth dates back to ancient Greek philosophy from around the 6th century BC.

A spherical earth, not a circle... Big difference. Around the same time Isaiah made his claim of the earth like a circle. Other people were saying the earth is spherical.

I would call your argument a fail.. That and even if he said "The earth is spherical, orbits the sun, and is suspended in the vacuum of space", how would that prove a god??
 

del66666

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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, who laughs at creationists
 
You cannot prove a negative. Therefore no one can prove God doesn't exist. And it's a lot easier to find evidence in support of creationism. Versus what? Darwin? I mean, that old eugenics-fool never even knew what DNA was and I'm supposed to take his views seriously? Meanwhile Holy books declared scientific facts thousands of years before their "scientific discoveries." So, who cares who's laughing? People think they're so "different" to be anti-Creator and it's more pitiful than anything. When typically people don't talk on subjects they know nothing about politics and religion seem to be the exception. Tisk.
Darwin would have eventually found DNA.
Francis Crik and James Watson were original founders.
Just saying.
 

mindphuk

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Darwin would have eventually found DNA.
Francis Crik and James Watson were original founders.
Just saying.
Actually, Crick and Watson were the first to determine the structure of DNA, not the first to discover it.
Just saying.

Either way, his comment was complete stupidity especially since Darwin predicted there was something biological that led to inherited traits. In fact some of the early scientific criticism to Origin of Species was that Darwin did not provide a mode for this inheritance. Chromosomes and DNA fill this requirement making Darwin's theory complete. DNA could be seen as a prediction of the Darwinian theory.
 
Even Isaiah contradicts your assertion.

Isaiah 11:12
12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH.

A circle is not a sphere.. Why didn't he say "the earth is like an apple" or something more descriptive? Why does he talk about it having corners?
Other places it talks of the earth on pillars..

The concept of a spherical Earth dates back to ancient Greek philosophy from around the 6th century BC.

A spherical earth, not a circle... Big difference. Around the same time Isaiah made his claim of the earth like a circle. Other people were saying the earth is spherical.

I would call your argument a fail.. That and even if he said "The earth is spherical, orbits the sun, and is suspended in the vacuum of space", how would that prove a god??
N, S, E, W...4 corners.
 

Tym

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N, S, E, W...4 corners.
Polar coordinates are not corners.

Where would these corners be on a sphere?

But please, answer my last question..
Even if the earth was flat and had 4 corners, or even if the bible said "The earth is a sphere and revolves around the sun".. How would that prove there is a god?
 

Heisenberg

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People laugh at the idea of creation because it is absurd, plain and simple. The initial idea is absurd, and the arguments that follow are always absurd. The conclusions supporters come to are ALWAYS based on mistakes, and the logic with which they defend the idea is, to be redundant, absurd.
 

Padawanbater2

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People laugh at the idea of creation because it is absurd, plain and simple. The initial idea is absurd, and the arguments that follow are always absurd. The conclusions supporters come to are ALWAYS based on mistakes, and the logic with which they defend the idea is, to be redundant, absurd.
So creationism is absurd?

:D
 
I have a question...what kind of proof would be needed to change the mind of someone who does not believe God exists.

Personaly I believe

something (God) created something (the world)

I do not believe

Nothing (nothing) created something (the world)
 

guy incognito

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I have a question...what kind of proof would be needed to change the mind of someone who does not believe God exists.

Personaly I believe

something (God) created something (the world)

I do not believe

Nothing (nothing) created something (the world)
I know. The idea that the world was created by nothing at all is absolutely absurd. BTW where did god come from?
 

Padawanbater2

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I have a question...what kind of proof would be needed to change the mind of someone who does not believe God exists.

Personaly I believe

something (God) created something (the world)

I do not believe

Nothing (nothing) created something (the world)

A god would have to break the observable laws of reality for me to believe one exists.

Raise Abe Lincoln from the grave, that'd probably do it too.

But then again, maybe not, why invoke a "supreme being" into the resurrection of Abe Lincoln? If somebody's rising from the dead, I can't logically connect that to a god existing... which is what a lot of you guys do ALL THE TIME.

proposition A (something like the Earth exists) happens...

then without going through steps B, C, D, - Y, you jump ALL THE WAY TO Z (God dun it)...

then proclaim something genius like "God said it, I believe it, that settles it!".


You guys have to understand, the idea of your god existing is simply illogical and irrational and makes no goddamn sense at all when analyzed. You would come to the exact same conclusion too with a little honest criticism...


I have a question...what kind of proof would be needed to change the mind of someone who does not believe Zeus (Allah, Thor, etc.) exists.
 
I know. The idea that the world was created by nothing at all is absolutely absurd. BTW where did god come from?
Well if we are created by God (infinite being, no begining no end) We, His creation (finite being, having a earthly beginning and end), would have no way of comprehending or understanding how He could always have existed.
I would have to be God to be able to tell you where He came from and I am not, and even if I knew and could tell you you could not understand, but it is not necessary that I know where He came from just like you live on earth and it is not necessary that you know where it came from.
 
A god would have to break the observable laws of reality for me to believe one exists.

Raise Abe Lincoln from the grave, that'd probably do it too.

But then again, maybe not, why invoke a "supreme being" into the resurrection of Abe Lincoln? If somebody's rising from the dead, I can't logically connect that to a god existing... which is what a lot of you guys do ALL THE TIME.

proposition A (something like the Earth exists) happens...

then without going through steps B, C, D, - Y, you jump ALL THE WAY TO Z (God dun it)...

then proclaim something genius like "God said it, I believe it, that settles it!".


You guys have to understand, the idea of your god existing is simply illogical and irrational and makes no goddamn sense at all when analyzed. You would come to the exact same conclusion too with a little honest criticism...


I have a question...what kind of proof would be needed to change the mind of someone who does not believe Zeus (Allah, Thor, etc.) exists.
What if Abe claimed to have the power of life over death and raised himself up from the dead, would that be enough?
 

guy incognito

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Well if we are created by God (infinite being, no begining no end) We, His creation (finite being, having a earthly beginning and end), would have no way of comprehending or understanding how He could always have always existed.
I would have to be God to be able to tell you where He came from and I am not, and even if I knew and could tell you you could not understand, but it is not necessary that I know where He came from just like you live on earth and it is not necessary that you know where it came from.
Oh that's convenient. Clearly the universe and humans must have had a beginning. More than just a beginning, it MUST have been created by god, because how else could you possibly explain it? Anything short of a magical being that always has and always will exist creating the universe out of nothing would be absurd, amirite?

Also life isn't just a need to know basis. Whether I need to know it or not the earth was created at some time in the past. Same for the universe. Just because I don't need to know for survival doesn't mean it didn't happen or can't be explained.
 

guy incognito

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What if Abe claimed to have the power of life over death and raised himself up from the dead, would that be enough?
I still think you are missing a step. All that would prove is that abe has the power of life over death. Or rather it would APPEAR that he does by virtue of him raising himself from the dead.
 
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