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beenthere

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minimum wage = $290/week before taxes

1. shelter 31% $89.90
2. food 34.5% $100.05
3. clothes 34.5% $100.05
4. health (see doctor when sick) $75 (you would have to give up on food/clothing for that week and amount equal to prescription if "needed")

does that look about right?
Other than the $100 a week on clothes, it looks about right.

But here's where we differ.
Minimum wage jobs are for kids first getting into the workforce, not for losers that were too lazy to develop a trade or get a decent degree.
Kids working minimum wage jobs for the most part, live with their parents or are working their way through school.
So healthcare, food, shelter and clothes are provided by mommy and daddy.

I can't tell you how many people I see from my high school days that are forced into working low paying jobs because they either partied too hard or just didn't give a damn when they had the chance and could have made something of themselves.

We don't owe them shit as far as I'm concerned, they made their bed, now they can sleep in it.

Truth be told, minimum wages really screw the young kids, the higher the wage is, the more the employer is going have to hire experience workers.
 

see4

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minimum wage = $290/week before taxes

1. shelter 31% $89.90
2. food 34.5% $100.05
3. clothes 34.5% $100.05
4. health (see doctor when sick) $75 (you would have to give up on food/clothing for that week and amount equal to prescription if "needed")

does that look about right?
That's not a budget. I would say:

$290/week
Tax: 15%
$246.50/week
Shelter: 25% $61.625 or $246.50 per month for shelter.
Transportation: 10% $24.65 or $98.60 per month for transportation [train, cab, car, gas, parking, etc]
Food: 30% $73.95 or $295.80 per month for food [grocery and dine out]
Bills: 20% $49.30 or $197.20 per month for electricity, gas, cellphone, internet, cable, etc
Clothing: 2%
Savings: 3%
Other: 10%

Those are really rough, but more accurate. But you get the idea here.
 

see4

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I don't know about you all, but I've never lived in a place for as little as $250/month. Ever. Even in college.
 

UncleBuck

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the right wingers have yet to come up with even a single concrete example of minimum wage causing prices to skyrocket proportionally.

not on single example.

yet they are so sure of it and they keep repeating the lie as if it had some basis in reality.

that is the problem with righties, they are stupid. and stupid people are the most convinced that their stupidity is true.
 

yktind

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the right wingers have yet to come up with even a single concrete example of minimum wage causing prices to skyrocket proportionally.

not on single example.

yet they are so sure of it and they keep repeating the lie as if it had some basis in reality.

that is the problem with righties, they are stupid. and stupid people are the most convinced that their stupidity is true.
Maybe they're all racist? <----Thought I'd throw that out there since I know you'll yell it out at some point.

Let me ask you this, Buck...
If you were a CEO and had look out for the best interest of the share holders. Are you going to personally take a hit on your bonus? Or would you fire people and/ or raise prices?
 

tip top toker

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Maybe they're all racist? <----Thought I'd throw that out there since I know you'll yell it out at some point.

Let me ask you this, Buck...
If you were a CEO and had look out for the best interest of the share holders. Are you going to personally take a hit on your bonus? Or would you fire people and/ or raise prices?
In the UK, minimum wage went up a short while ago, suddenly there was a huge desire for apprentices to replace outgoing staff instead of straight replacement.
 

yktind

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you're entitled to your very, very stupid opinions.

i would like to see citation of my racism from you though, since anyone who is not two standard deviations below average on a WAIS-V knows that california is not communist.
Please cite where I've been racist and then we can call each other not racists. Then we can agree that we do not agree on this.
 

UncleBuck

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Please cite where I've been racist and then we can call each other not racists. Then we can agree that we do not agree on this.
you're the one who called me a "racist asshole", so it is now your job to cite your claim with evidence.
 

yktind

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you're the one who called me a "racist asshole", so it is now your job to cite your claim with evidence.
Just following in your footsteps. You blanketed Republicans as racists. I'm a republican. So I called you racist back.

Isn't this how it works in recess? Or should we go tell the teacher?
 

yktind

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i didn't blanket ALL republicans as racist, and i didn't call you a racist. but you did call me a "racist asshole".

so i will await citation and evidence from you to support your assertion.

this should be just as entertaining as watching someone try to prove that california is communist or obama raised his taxes from 20% to 30%.

dumb fucks are just so dumb.
Oh okay, my bad I misunderstood. Your just an asshole then. Sorry about that.

Also, I never said my Taxes were raised by Obama. However, my taxes have gone up from 25% to 33% in the last 4 years. I am making more money so that is probably the main contributor. My gripe is that I have made at least half way decent choices and killed myself to get where I am today. Then I get to come home to my neighbor that doesn't work and screams at her kids all day. Yeah that's fair. Oh, they cook up some mean tri-tip too. I wonder how they pay for that without a job?

Not my fault I chose to wear condoms and educate myself. Why should I be punished for your F-ups?
 

UncleBuck

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Oh okay, my bad I misunderstood. Your just an asshole then. Sorry about that.

Also, I never said my Taxes were raised by Obama. However, my taxes have gone up from 25% to 33% in the last 4 years. I am making more money so that is probably the main contributor. My gripe is that I have made at least half way decent choices and killed myself to get where I am today. Then I get to come home to my neighbor that doesn't work and screams at her kids all day. Yeah that's fair. Oh, they cook up some mean tri-tip too. I wonder how they pay for that without a job?

Not my fault I chose to wear condoms and educate myself. Why should I be punished for your F-ups?
why do all you successful, self-made, bootstrap right wingers seemingly always live next to the mythical welfare queen?

it is un-fucking-canny.
 

Red1966

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Don't play the innocent role buddy. We all know what sort of character you are, we all know what sort of character many of the knuckle draggers are around here. She did exactly what she set out to do. She got a negative reaction out of you, further proving how much of scum many of you guys are. You clearly are too blind to see it. I can refer you to a great optometrist.
You have no idea what sort of character he is, or what she set out to do. You wish that any who disagree with you to be some sort of monster and then assume they actually are. This shows you to be a starry-eyed fool fool who can't tell the difference between reality and wishful thinking. You defend your position by demonizing the opposition. This shows you have not put any thought into your beliefs, just "it sounds good, so it must be true".
 

see4

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Oh okay, my bad I misunderstood. Your just an asshole then. Sorry about that.

Also, I never said my Taxes were raised by Obama. However, my taxes have gone up from 25% to 33% in the last 4 years. I am making more money so that is probably the main contributor. My gripe is that I have made at least half way decent choices and killed myself to get where I am today. Then I get to come home to my neighbor that doesn't work and screams at her kids all day. Yeah that's fair. Oh, they cook up some mean tri-tip too. I wonder how they pay for that without a job?

Not my fault I chose to wear condoms and educate myself. Why should I be punished for your F-ups?
So it's NOT ok for Democrats to complain about wealthy people making too much money off the backs of others. But it's ok for you to complain about your mythical welfare queen who uses taxes off the backs of others? I don't get it. I thought we are supposed to not care what other people do?
 

see4

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You have no idea what sort of character he is, or what she set out to do. You wish that any who disagree with you to be some sort of monster and then assume they actually are. This shows you to be a starry-eyed fool fool who can't tell the difference between reality and wishful thinking. You defend your position by demonizing the opposition. This shows you have not put any thought into your beliefs, just "it sounds good, so it must be true".
Not at all. I disagree on things with GWN and CN, but I don't engage with shit conversations like this. Because they are civilized individuals, and I treat them with respect. As they do with me. You should try it sometime sport.
 

beenthere

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why do all you successful, self-made, bootstrap right wingers seemingly always live next to the mythical welfare queen?

it is un-fucking-canny.
This isn't some new phenomenon, where the hell do you think the old saying "there goes the neighborhood" came from?
 
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