slinger36s
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My friend veg's 18 plants in 2 gallon smart pots under 2x4ft t5's
1000 Watt MH and 2000 Watt HPS first grow
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I hadn't even considered using T5s. After reading up on them I think you are right and am going to go that route.
Time to spend another $1000
CaptainCAVEMAN
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Get a light mover.
slinger36s
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They are like 200 bucks a piece, no need to spend a 1000$I hadn't even considered using T5s. After reading up on them I think you are right and am going to go that route.
Time to spend another $1000
Yeah but I was thinking I would need two of them to really do the job right. I am only gonna have 18 clones but I want to have them as healthy and as bushy as possible so when they hit the 2000W hps they can really take off. I also need to get a cloning chamber, panda film, fans etc etc. $1000 might be a little high but last time I guessed $1400 and spent $3000 so I am trying to prepare myself this time 
You think 2 is over kill? I wanted to get a 4' X 4' flood table and move them into that after the clone chamber. Not sure what the best T5 fixture would be. Still researching
You think 2 is over kill? I wanted to get a 4' X 4' flood table and move them into that after the clone chamber. Not sure what the best T5 fixture would be. Still researching
slinger36s
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Two would be perfect, I got a 36 site aeroponic cloner off amazon for like 70 bucks that's awesome, if u want the link I'll share it with you. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B008NRQJC0/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1Yeah but I was thinking I would need two of them to really do the job right. I am only gonna have 18 clones but I want to have them as healthy and as bushy as possible so when they hit the 2000W hps they can really take off. I also need to get a cloning chamber, panda film, fans etc etc. $1000 might be a little high but last time I guessed $1400 and spent $3000 so I am trying to prepare myself this time
You think 2 is over kill? I wanted to get a 4' X 4' flood table and move them into that after the clone chamber. Not sure what the best T5 fixture would be. Still researching
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Yep I just ordered that clone machine. It seems perfect for what I need. Now if I can only bring myself to take clones from my more innocent babies...
The plants on the left I spun around so that the main stem is on the outside. I feel like this gives A TON more light to the lower brush but does drop the light that the main stem is getting. Is this the right move or should I spin them back so the main stem gets a ton of light and the lower outside brush gets a small amount.... Any input?
I had rotated my babies Thursday or so of last week. I am sooo glad I did. They have filled in very nicely. Thanks for the reinforcement BellsBudz!
I haven't put much thought into how I am going to support my babies. I have seen something at the grow store that hooks to the ceiling that then extends down and you hook the branches to those. I was thinking about using those. But I am guessing I will use a variety of things depending on the situation. Right now I am working on setting up my veg tent and getting co2 going
So I made the mistake of venting my room as I have now decided to use CO2. I guess I am going to use my existing Can-Fan and mount it directly to my Can-Filter. Then get another inline fan to vent my two lights. I only need a small inline fan to vent my two lights right? I do not need another Can-Fan type to vent a very small amount of air...
Another question i have is if my seeds are stretching too much or if the below picture is normal... I also was running out of light so spread my plants out and turned on my second 1000 watt light. I only have a HPS bulb so I am using that which doesn't make me happy but as they are only vegging for a week or 2 tops I do not think it will matter toooooo much. I don't know. Feeling a bit discouraged...
Another question i have is if my seeds are stretching too much or if the below picture is normal... I also was running out of light so spread my plants out and turned on my second 1000 watt light. I only have a HPS bulb so I am using that which doesn't make me happy but as they are only vegging for a week or 2 tops I do not think it will matter toooooo much. I don't know. Feeling a bit discouraged...
BellsBudz
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Gonna be outta control a few weeks after you flip..LOL! All looks great..even your babies. Some tend to stretch more than others..they look healthy! As for your venting..i guess it would depend on how your temps are now and where you want to be. You can have a higher room temp (about 10degree F) while running CO2 so i guess i small fan would work assuming you achieve the temps you want.
Yeah the reason for deciding to run CO2 was due to the higher temps that my second light caused. With 1 light on it got to a max of 75 degrees. With the second light on it gets to 81... Little too warm in my uneducated opinion. So I figured I could use an AC unit or CO2. AC cost more to setup and run on a monthly basis and doesn't really help with plant growth(besides ideal temp range). So I figured CO2 was the way to go... Cheaper to setup and run but also helps the plants it seems like.
I am amazed they do not have a inline duct "switch" that runs on a timer that turns on the CO2 but also closes a "flap" to only allow air in from outside the tent and through the hoods. Then when the CO2 turns off the "flap" opens and goes back to scrubbing the air through the in room carbon filter. This would only require 1 fan and seems ideal...
Thanks for the encouragement BeelsBudz, I do not know what I am worried about. There are just so so so many factors that have to be accounted for that sometimes it is a little overwhelming. In retrospect this was kind of a big undertaking for a first time grower... I should have gotten a couple seeds and some T5s and worked my way up lol
BellsBudz
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To me the fun part about this hobby is solving problems and seeing how things work out good or bad. Ive found starting small is the way to go with little experience but it looks like you know enough to keep everything alive and thriving.
Im glad I can be involved with your grow while Im out of this hobby for a little while until i can get some work done.
Sometimes it is discouraging but your attitude makes a huge difference on how things progress. Positive vibes.....
Oh and just to let you know i removed my glass in my 600hps air cooled hood and turned my fan up toward the light.
I read about the heat created from the bulbs radiate mostly from the glass in the air cooled hoods. Worth a try to remove the glass if your willing to test for temps with CO2 and no venting.
I had a top about 2" from my 600hps and it was thriving! Im sure the temps on that top were 90plus.
Im glad I can be involved with your grow while Im out of this hobby for a little while until i can get some work done.
Sometimes it is discouraging but your attitude makes a huge difference on how things progress. Positive vibes.....
Oh and just to let you know i removed my glass in my 600hps air cooled hood and turned my fan up toward the light.
I read about the heat created from the bulbs radiate mostly from the glass in the air cooled hoods. Worth a try to remove the glass if your willing to test for temps with CO2 and no venting.
I had a top about 2" from my 600hps and it was thriving! Im sure the temps on that top were 90plus.
So I have my CO2 running and converted my room to sealed room... My temps are running at 88 degrees at 1500ppm with an RH of 68. This is a little too warm isn't it? Am I in danger? I have read about 10 different artifices and 20 anecdotal reports and I am more confused than ever. It seems that 85 is ideal and even 90 is ok. Do you guys agree?
BellsBudz
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Honesty that sounds perfect for CO2 but your plants will tell you if they dont like it. So id just monitor closely now and wait to see how they respond. They will grow very fast now with all that CO2 and 2000watts. Shouldnt be long now to flip time
Yeah I was looking at them last night thinking that I better flip them soon. I am gonna run out of room otherwise. I looked back at my first pictures and they all fit in 1 seedling tray.Honesty that sounds perfect for CO2 but your plants will tell you if they dont like it. So id just monitor closely now and wait to see how they respond. They will grow very fast now with all that CO2 and 2000watts. Shouldnt be long now to flip time
Perspective.
