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VictorVIcious

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Well im really new to this and i tried hydro first but it wasnt working out the way i hoped it would, so im going to take a horticulture class :) The reason why i decided to start my own op is mainly the fact that im tired of the clubs BS prices and growing what i smoke is going to be very rewarding. Also i didnt want to go over the legal limit because im paranoid haha. Anyways, I talked to my friends pops who used to do this many years ago and he pointed me in the right direction. Its funny because hes a really roots guy who only grew outdoor so he thinks my indoor experiment is very "un natural". I have one ak and one widow that i got off mothers, these strains have a high yield and I used a cloner machine until they were rooted (obviously). i transplanted them 14 days ago into a room with 600W 18 on 6 off. Their 8 inches and they look very healthy in their 15 gallon pots. Does anyone have an opinion on the pressure mist sprayer? Ive heard they burn the plants...?
Well...ok, its not the mister that burns the plants it the light being too close to the plants when you mist them. They will grow roots to fill that pot, they will be very tall eventually. I hope you have a really tall room.

does 3.5 liters of water sound right for every other day?
No it doesn't, it sounds like a lot more water then plants that age could ever use. Do you get water running out of the pot??

Should i let the tap water sit for 24 hours before watering?
It wouldn't hurt to and it might help.

has anyone used a 15 gallon pot before?
I have seen picture of a few, most wouldn't, its not necessary for indoor growing. The difference is control of the light cycle. Growing out doors its a little hard to turn off the sun and force flowering so they just grow big plants. Its not unusual to get a pound or two off a plant that veggies for four or five months and then flowers for a couple of months and you don't have to pay extra for the sunlight. Indoors there are ceilings and lights, etc. and we can turn off the sun and force flowering before the plants grow thru the roof.

Am I blowin it at all? I have faith in myself but i want the best for the girls, so if theres anyone whos willing to give me advice i would really apriciate it.
THANK YOU!!
No, you are not blowing it all, your just doing it different than most of us do. Jorge talked about this in his book. He used to recommend nothing less than a 5 gallon size for a soil grow, he has since found that 3 1/2 gallons is the most that would be necessary because of the nutes, etc that we have available now. By controlling when they plants start flowering we grow smaller plants and harvest more often, some every two weeks.
Depending on the ceiling height you have, you may want to transplant them into smaller pots or investigate some lst and fim to make those plants 'bush out' instead of growing up. Or you will outgrow your lights. VV
 

Izzyvibes

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The water does seep through the soil and run out the bottom of the pot, into the plastic trays. i put bricks under three sides of both pots, I assumed it would be healthy for the bottom of the pot not to be flooded. Do you think that helps? Should i just give the plant two liters of water every other day, that sounds reasonable right? From the top of the pot to the 600W light its 4 feet but the room is 6.5 feet tall and 5 feet in length and width. They wont burn as long as the plant is a bit over a foot away from the light correct? At this point should i still mist it? Light misting? Im using Dynamite Premium fertilizer and its 18-6-8 which was the best i could find at Home depot. The weird thing i noticed is it doesnt mix with the water you just shake it over the plants base and in the soil. What do you think about this
 

onthedl0008

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Tribute to Widow Maker:

Cloning in a cup of water.
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Felt like I needed to expand on this subject considering other growers have begun to do this purely on my rants and raves on exactly how simple this method actually is!

First U cut the plant in the desired location.I prefer the Tops of the plants themselves(Topping).If U cut the stem be sure to leave at least one node for future growth on the stem.(Future Cloning) Or future (Bud sites)

Second Be sure to cut @ a 45 degree angle with a SHARP clean knife, shears or razor. I used a pearing knife for awhile.

Third Be sure to have a cup of water handy to place the cutting in directly upon cutting. Its Best to cut in water so air does not enter the main cutting stalk.

Fourth Scraping. This is done quickly. U want to scrape at least the bottom 1/2 inch "SKIN" off the bottom of of the main stalk of ur cutting.
THIS means removing only the OUTSIDE layer of green "SKIN".GENTLY. Just be carefull.

Fifth U can place these cuttings directly in the cup of water. Although ive been experimenting with dipping them in rooting hormone and superthrive ive had awesome results in just placing them in plain water.TAP WATER.

Sixth Cloning medium. This consists of the cup and the water. I cut my cups.( I use regular red plastic party cups found everywhere !)I cut the cups to size to be sufficient enuff to brace the tops of the cuttings (SIZE of cuttings).Meaning, the upper fan leaves dwell on the top of the cut cup.

Seventh This is the last step. WATER LEVEL IN CUP. I put enuff water in my cup to completely cover the area which I scraped. Usaully 1/2 inch to a quarter. THIS water is CHANGED AND WATCHED daily.

Reason being. Cutting drink lots of water sometimes so stay on top keep ur water level consistent. Changing ur water only enstills U are taking every action neccesary to be sure ur water will not stagnate on ur new babies.

Its that simple hope this clears up things for a few people. Its very simple.

Posted this in a thread I created but thought it would be help full here. I forgot one main factor in this technique. Lighting, all I do is place the cuttings in the cup in indirect light(shaded). On the side or near my moms in the direct light.Until root growth is aquired then U can transplant to any medium U like. THANKS RIU.
 

SayWord

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im about three days deep in my first water clones using that exact way except i filled the cup really high with water, put tin foil over the top, poked holes in the tin foil then put the clones in there. is it important to use less water? thanks
 

VictorVIcious

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The water does seep through the soil and run out the bottom of the pot, into the plastic trays. i put bricks under three sides of both pots, I assumed it would be healthy for the bottom of the pot not to be flooded. Do you think that helps? Should i just give the plant two liters of water every other day, that sounds reasonable right?
The fact that the water drains is good, the fact that you always get runoff will keep any salt build-ups flushed out, the fact that you are overwatering your plants is not good!
In nature you don't get a deluge of water every two days. Your soil never dreis out and the effect is the plant never gets the oxygen it needs for rapid growth, your drowning them, not enough to kill them, just slow them down.
What you want IS for your soil to get somewhat dry, you want the plant to have to send roots out looking for water. If you are always feeding iit more water it doesn't have too. I suspect you will need to wait at least four days before you will need to water again, a picture of them would help, right now I am guessing that they are dropping a little? This is a symptom of overwatering too.

From the top of the pot to the 600W light its 4 feet but the room is 6.5 feet tall and 5 feet in length and width. They wont burn as long as the plant is a bit over a foot away from the light correct?
Well.... ask you mentor to come and take a look at what you have, ask him if he thinks the plant may get to tall for the room. If you fix your watering schedule I think it will take about four weeks for you to need a hole in the ceiling.


At this point should i still mist it? Light misting? Im using Dynamite Premium fertilizer and its 18-6-8 which was the best i could find at Home depot. The weird thing i noticed is it doesnt mix with the water you just shake it over the plants base and in the soil. What do you think about this
I am going on a trip today, we can talk about this tommorrow, or anyone that has the time today can work on it with you. VV
 

onthedl0008

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im about three days deep in my first water clones using that exact way except i filled the cup really high with water, put tin foil over the top, poked holes in the tin foil then put the clones in there. is it important to use less water? thanks
I use barely enuff water to cover the area of the cutting stalk I scraped. REason being Ive had problems with stalk rot using this method of cloning if my water level were to high in the cup.Anyhow I started a theread on this. Check it out. Im about to post some pix of some 7 day old cuttings that are ready to be put in my bubbler.
https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/140167-cloning-cup-water.html
 

rouzario

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Let me start by saying I am new here. I'm not a pig so don't start saying shit please.
I new to the country too. and well I'm jonesin. BAD!!! And I've tryed everything from help looking for dealer posts. (Witch is the most stupidest thing to do) to waiking around looking for people who smoke. ANd well I have not had any luck. So I have desited to grow my one. And well I need all the help i can get. From start to finish. first i need to now if those computer boxes are good. Becuse I like how that is small. I don't want to make a room out of this I just want a littel box or so.
 

VictorVIcious

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alright ill just wait for your response tomorrow. thank you
The way that powdered fertilizers are supposed to work is that everytime it rains your plants would get whatever dose of fertilizer get dissolved by the rain. There is not any reason you can't just mix that powder with water, stir it up and water the plants. You will want to get a different formula for flowering your plants. Something a little higher in potassium content.
The only thing you need to be concerned about with misting is burn from the light being too close when you mist them. I move my light up an foot or so and them mist them, about 20 minutes or so I move it back down. Ever notice how green everything looks outside when the temperature gets lower at night causing the rh to rise and deposit dew on the plants. Things really green up then huh.
What you need to do is put all of this in your journal. If you have one started send me a link, if not start one. You might wnat to take a look at B.thc+r&d's journal as well. He was using 12 gallon rubbermaid containers at the time he posted his journals here. Those 15 gallon pots will grow really big plants. I suspect they are about 1 1/2 ' tall, allowing 8" above the plants for the light and a foot or so for the lightitself and ventilation systems, thats about 3' of your 6 1/2 ' of height. Plants will double and some times triple thier height once you start flowering them.
There are example posted of things folks have done to make plants grow horizontal instead of verticle, you will need to read some of those, They will be labled LST (low stress training). VV:joint:
 

JZA210

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im an real newbie can some one answer me my plants bout a month 1/2 old it only has three leaves on each set of them is that bad?
 

Lamamonster

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I have a Question about lighting. I have 2x27w equal to 100w ea. On my sprouts wha should the lighting ratio be. its on 24 now is that to much??

I know i have the wrong soil... Experiment plant.
 

czogbe

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Can anyone help please. How does one post pictures? I tried when I posted my thread but a message came up saying a security token was missing? Can I upload straight from my camera or do I have to post them somewhere?
Thanks.
 

VictorVIcious

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Can anyone help please. How does one post pictures? I tried when I posted my thread but a message came up saying a security token was missing? Can I upload straight from my camera or do I have to post them somewhere?
Thanks.
Hmmm...you should be able to, scroll down to manage attatchments>Brings up a new Window where you can Browse> and Upload>, should be able to open periphials attached to you computer? Close the Window and Preview> your post. They should show up as thumbnails in the bottom of the post. Submit Reply> VV
 

VictorVIcious

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I have a Question about lighting. I have 2x27w equal to 100w ea. On my sprouts wha should the lighting ratio be. its on 24 now is that to much??

I know i have the wrong soil... Experiment plant.
That amount of light will be fine as long as you keep them close enough to your plant, check out some journals, there are hundreds posted in this forum, that say they are using cfl's, most of them with pictures. VV
 

hoonman

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I am just getting started and have a water distiller, I think this water is better than tap water, am I on the right track?
 

Highernhigher

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Hey guys. Im pretty new to this. im on my first indoor grow and i was wondering if my buds will get much bigger during the last three weeks of the grow?
 
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