2023 Massachusetts Outdoor Growers

p59teitel

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Any one else ever had pants that stunted? They may survive all summer, but they ever grow more than 10 inches maybe. They will bud, turn purple and produce a mini nugget, but that's it. It's definitely from poor attention, proper lighting and all that.
Here's a question, I have a security light in my yard triggered by coons, possums and intruders. Thinking of switching it to red or blue? Some of the light can trickle to the garden....
Nah, I’m rough on seedlings so usually kill off any stunted weirdos when they are babies.
 

Poco56

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Any one else ever had pants that stunted? They may survive all summer, but they ever grow more than 10 inches maybe. They will bud, turn purple and produce a mini nugget, but that's it. It's definitely from poor attention, proper lighting and all that.
Here's a question, I have a security light in my yard triggered by coons, possums and intruders. Thinking of switching it to red or blue? Some of the light can trickle to the garden....
I’ve had the opposite issue my 1st year where they “reach” in the living daylight vs. my T5. They grow exponentially, but produce corresponding nodes in a less than desirable increment. (I think it was my indoor lighting schedule, which has since been adjusted) As far as light, I think “green” is your best bet based on my indoor grows that I’ve done in the past…
 

effexxess

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Here's a question, I have a security light in my yard triggered by coons, possums and intruders. Thinking of switching it to red or blue? Some of the light can trickle to the garden....
Might get rid of the light. Even green light is not to be used as a safe light. Even a little green light will interrupt your plants night-cycle.

Youtube video: Best Grow Lighting for Cannabis with Dr Bruce Bugbee
13:05 Using green lights during the dark period

"it turns out cannabis is in the category it cannot sleep if there’s a tiny light"

"green is not a good safe light okay the green photons triggered light responses in in cannabis they would in other plants too yeah now having said that first of all green is not completely safe but our eyes see green green photons so well that you can work say with five nanomoles of green and you still can see the plants so it’s still a light of choice but it should be used with great caution at night"
 

PioneerValleyOG

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Nah, I’m rough on seedlings so usually kill off any stunted weirdos when they are babies.
Yea, I cull the weak ones too, I found about 8 of these little munchkin plants one year out by an old seedling bed. By fall, they'd flowered a dandelion sized bud. I've had one find it's way into the garden, it's just something different to look at.
 

p59teitel

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Thinking I’ll put most of these in the ground after we get through the predicted mid-week chilly nights - although not the babies that were started late to replace seedlings that damped off, I’ll have to wait a couple more weeks for those to go out.

First up we have the Battle of the Afghans. On the left are 4 Mazar-I-Sharif from Baaba Qo Selections, long considered the top hash plants in the region for producing the famed Milk of Mazar hashish. On the right are 4 Panjshir from The Real Seed Co. that I chose due to the UN Office of Drug Control’s recent annual reports (recommendations lol?) stating that hash from Panjshir has overtaken Mazari as the priciest hash in the country -

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The second pan has two Himalayan varieties from The Real Seed Co. On the left are 3 Dakshinkali from Nepal and on the right 4 Rasoli from India. 2 of the Rasoli are already telling me they are going to be stupid tall, while the other 2 had some weird albinism that slowed their growth - one grew past the albino bullshit and recovered into a normal shape, while the other’s apical meristem crapped out and now has two separate top branches. Looking forward to maybe making some hand-rubbed Temple Balls like we used to see back in the 70s, that I fondly recall as having a blissful spiritual buzz that made me One with the Universe while holding hands with the Buddha or some such nonsense lol -

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PioneerValleyOG

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Surprised seeing so many starting beans already.
mine go out this size and it gets stupid, can’t imagine two months veg before going out
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And I paid a huge price. Before putting up animal fencing and without thinking, I set all my seedlings in a garden to get full sun..
Raccoon dug up and destroyed just about everything...
Plus weather Wednesday supposed to be down to 28°
 

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7CardBud

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The cuttings I kept under low light this winter are taking off nicely. They are all ready about 3 foot. I did a run of about 60 clones from them for some friends and tried some air layering on a couple of the meaty side branches.

The damn groundhogs have begun sending scouts to the perimeter. I'm gonna need to gas up my scuba tanks soon to fuel the lead pill pneumatic accelerator.
 

p59teitel

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Plants finally went in the ground this weekend.

Mazar-
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Panjshir -
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Rasoli -
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Dakshinkali -
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Also found two plants that had seeded in from last year’s crop. Moved them to existing spare holes. I have some idea what they are based on location and will see if expectations match reality.
 
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big bud man 413

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Anybody here in mass been dealing with gray leaf mold with there outdoor plants? seems to be a lot worse in the past two years. I know I should be using a preventive but I always wait for a problem then treat it like a dumb ass lol. Growing 5 autos on my deck that I started in April indoors and just started some freeze land and serious 7 a pheno of serious 6.
 

p59teitel

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Anybody here in mass been dealing with gray leaf mold with there outdoor plants? seems to be a lot worse in the past two years. I know I should be using a preventive but I always wait for a problem then treat it like a dumb ass lol. Growing 5 autos on my deck that I started in April indoors and just started some freeze land and serious 7 a pheno of serious 6.
Yes, there’s no avoiding it entirely but it can be managed. I spray B.t.to control caterpillars when I see them, but also spray a light peroxide solution starting in September to control both botrytis and powdery mildew.
 

SmichiganOG

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Anybody here in mass been dealing with gray leaf mold with there outdoor plants? seems to be a lot worse in the past two years. I know I should be using a preventive but I always wait for a problem then treat it like a dumb ass lol. Growing 5 autos on my deck that I started in April indoors and just started some freeze land and serious 7 a pheno of serious 6.
I would use copper in veg. Also make sure they have enough calcium. Just my opinion.
 

p59teitel

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BR and PM have been the bane of my outdoor growing experience the past few years. I will have to give that a try, thanks for sharing.
I use a gallon pump sprayer. Dump a quart of 3% peroxide in, add 3 quarts of water, shake a couple times, pump it up and spray away. Best to apply when dry. I don’t spray every day but I do reapply after wet weather, which is frequent in the fall along the coast. It won’t stop it all, but it will help limit impacts.
 

Kerowacked

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I alternate spinosad and neem oil in veg, neem is a fungicide, and don’t get mold or mildew.
Putting the runts outdoors, Ethos S1 and Banana hammock(including a reveg) with some of my Sticky Yellows. Damp, cool week should be good to harden them.

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edit: just added tomato cages to a couple. First time, but had them left over. Pushed the three prongs through the bottom of the bag and bent 90° to anchor the cage.
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