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Hey, I am glad you came back
Just use 2 the amount of cannzym for a day and the next day you flush the soil like a morron. Then your back on your track and you can follow the schedule again.
I don't know for how long you have been growing. I myself haven't been growing for a long time, and still use just my base grow/bloom or A/B for you and 3 simple additives=> roots stimulator (more roots= best flowering booster), this makes the difference I can tell you, a simple algae booster (that brings all the micro nutrients, vitamins and food for the micro life) very rewarding during the stretch in foliar, it stop the N deficiencies from coming during flowering. And finally a micro life source such as trichoderma because it product it self the enzyme, regulate the organic decomposition and salt concentration and it helps a lot for the roots. That is it.
The PK booster fuck yeah I tried once, The bud like them, but I don't think they are necessary to have a heavy and good quality harvest. Moreover than can destroy the benefit of all the work easily. So might be interesting for you to forget about it and use it once or twice per grow if the babies ask for it

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Guys, isnt 8-10ml/gallon of PK13/14 too much? I think Canna recommends the half of that... Could the problem come from that? I have to say I use it since a couple of months and it never locked anything in my grows...


4th week of flowering: 0.5ml/liter
5th week of flowering: 1ml/liter
6th week of flowering: 0.5ml/liter


@Speedyganja: What do you mean by "Moreover than can destroy the benefit of all the work easily" ?

Vlad, I am looking at their chart right now and it says to use 15 ml per gallon! That is only for the part of the feeding schedule, but that is why I am kinda peeved is I feed with it twice, once in week 3 and once in week 4 with the doses already stated.
Do you see good results with it at that low of a dose? I just feel I got a decent yield without it that it can stay on the shelf. so it will next time.

You might be right and Im probably an idiot lol. I have this chart, not coming from Canna themselves, but a wellknown growshop in Spain, and look at the recommendations: if you look under the image at the top, you see 3 coloured charts, if you click on them (top left) you have those quantities I talked about. Thats why I said your quantities seemed a lot... Tried to go on Canna's site but at first I didnt see any charts but finally found it...

I cant really say if it works good because I always used it that way LOL (new grower). Might try to add a lil more for the next runs... Im out of this thread in shame...

http://www.alchimiaweb.com/fr/canna-cannazym-1-l-product-263.php

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I do not use cannazyme since i read that most enzyme products have the same basic process of breakong down old roots i just use hygrozyme. I do not use it much but i feel i noticed the difference in yield with my organic plants since i scaled back on the molasses& hygrozyme this time to try age old organic since my super soil gasses out on me.

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you should try seed sprout teas instead. Its organic unlike the bottles. Far cheaper. Toss those pk boosters. They are just marketing hype. They don't do anything beneficial for your plants... They cause phos abuse. You really don't need that much npk. less is more...

vladimiroslav said:

@Speedyganja: What do you mean by "Moreover than can destroy the benefit of all the work easily" ?

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I mean you kill your plant or at least lower severly your harvest if overfeeding with PK.
Plus the fact that PK stays in the plant... N is kind of "consumed" but not P and K so go slowly on it... It's like good things we better not abuse of it

I guess you are talking about Alchimia? The canna table is perfect from what I heard.
But canna instruction are very precise and good too I think. (some friends use it with no ec in coco, just following their chart...)

see ya

Hy, Im working on shifting my grow style to full organic/rols. will be a little bit of time before i get to the guru level of yourself but i definitely want to get there.
Once i get out of this apartment and have a little more room to operate i will get into mixing my own soils and brewing teas. Was only this summer i finally started a compost bin, once i move gonna get myself a worm farm, hopefully will help to stop eating so much processed food in an effort to give my wormies the variety they want.

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Hy, Im working on shifting my grow style to full organic/rols. will be a little bit of time before i get to the guru level of yourself but i definitely want to get there.
Once i get out of this apartment and have a little more room to operate i will get into mixing my own soils and brewing teas. Was only this summer i finally started a compost bin, once i move gonna get myself a worm farm, hopefully will help to stop eating so much processed food in an effort to give my wormies the variety they want.

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I live the condo life. So I mix soil indoors. I just got a tarp from WalMart. Laid it out and dump the pile on there . The other day I dumped enough to fill 4 20 gal totes at a time. Then walk around the pile shoveling the mix for an hour. Then put it in the totes and stack them in the closet. I did 8 totes total.. A little got on the carpet. But whatever I couldn't scrape up, I vacuumed up. If its wet. I let it dry and it vacuums right up no problem..

Nice, I am moving to a condo out of the 2 bd apt i am operating in now. Gonna mix soils and brew teas in the basement if it is unfinished, otherwise just use the garage. Have a lot of details to work out but its coming together. If i had the scratch on hand without dipping into my moving money i would mix some super soil now to have ready but gotta have priorities and shit lol.

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natro.hydro said:

Nice, I am moving to a condo out of the 2 bd apt i am operating in now. Gonna mix soils and brew teas in the basement if it is unfinished, otherwise just use the garage. Have a lot of details to work out but its coming together. If i had the scratch on hand without dipping into my moving money i would mix some super soil now to have ready but gotta have priorities and shit lol.

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I'm in a 2 bdrm . Both masters... No basement or attached garage. I did it all in that space in the flower room on the side where I had all the shit laying around in the videos. Its all cleaned up now. Except one tote filled with coco... I'm hoping by the end of the year if I don't go to Co. To get a house. I can get a 4 bdrm 2000 -2500 sq ft, garage huge yard. For $1500-$2000 a month. I don't know if that's a lot where you are. That's cheap here ft a house. For the quality. Closer to the beach that will get you a small apt..

Tried to pm ya but i do not think it worked. That is pretty decent for that size house, evven if you arent on the beach lol. Only beach property around here comes with a not so charming lake smell lol.

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natro.hydro said:

Tried to pm ya but i do not think it worked. That is pretty decent for that size house, evven if you arent on the beach lol. Only beach property around here comes with a not so charming lake smell lol.

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I didn't get any pm from you. I don't know if there is an inbox limit now. There doesn't seem to be an option to delete any conversations / pm's


Beach properties are like $2000 a month for 600 sq foot cottages. $3000 - $3500 a month for 1200 sq ft. Houses sell for 2 mil to 20 mil . 2000 sq ft beach house is like $5000 a month . During the summer, it's a weekly rate for rent that's the same as the monthly rate the rest of the year. There are a lot of seasonal rentals at the beach.. those are on the sand or water prices.

my sister and brother live a 5 min walk to the beach in pretty good size houses and pay around $3500 a month. My sister is moving. its a seasonal rental.. in the desert its half that for the same size house on a much larger lot.. for the same quality

Jesus H.... It's just not worth it! I'll stick with the lake smell for 500 bucks a month, and own my place in 15 years... 2 acres, small ass bedrooms but a basement and kickass garage.... Hy move over here closer to psu, Cocoa, and I so we can all party. Ha! No.... Don't move over here, not till our legalities are straightened out.. -_-

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Jesus H.... It's just not worth it! I'll stick with the lake smell for 500 bucks a month, and own my place in 15 years... 2 acres, small ass bedrooms but a basement and kickass garage.... Hy move over here closer to psu, Cocoa, and I so we can all party. Ha! No.... Don't move over here, not till our legalities are straightened out.. -_-

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I pay 750 a month for a 1000 sq ft condo.. High end quality. Spanish tile, cherry wood cabinets.. Granite counters. Whisper quiet dishwasher. 2 master bedrooms and 2 bath. Electricity in my area is $0.08 per kwh. Its hot as a the middle east here though..lol. Also all brand new appliances. I'm a 2 hour drive from the beach (ocean) ... My deck is made of red wood and also have Berber carpet.

Well, hy's not moving.. How bout you natro?! Lol. Hopefully my state isn't too far around the corner.. THAT'S the next big thing over here, but, I'm right in the middle of the "bible belt" soooo

I pay that for a large city (100,000+pop.) rent controlled shit hole lol. Maybe a migration would not be a bad move on my part.... Just would want a job nailed down before I pick up and move, not a person who likes to live in the unknown and on the edge like that lol.
Scotch, I tell ya what, if these next mid term elections pan out like I think they will and a certain weasel faced under-educated gov of mine runs for pres like it is highly expected then I am bouncing to the North to chill with the Canadians lol. I do not mind the cold, So cal is prob not in the cards for me though.

Scotch089 said:

Well, hy's not moving.. How bout you natro?! Lol. Hopefully my state isn't too far around the corner.. THAT'S the next big thing over here, but, I'm right in the middle of the "bible belt" soooo

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Iowa huh. so hows the corn? Lmao

Close, couple more east, but there is a shit ton of corn around here. Big ag state.. Hint: my mayors a douche. (lol Who's isn't?)

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Close, couple more east, but there is a shit ton of corn around here. Big ag state.. Hint: my mayors a douche. (lol Who's isn't?)

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does he smoke crack?