Advice On LED Choices

Setup:
5x5 Grow tent
AC Infinity 6" w/ carbon filter
1000w HPS MH Setup
Coco coir w/ perlite
GH Flora Trio
4 plants
etc

Hey guys,

I stopped by a few hydroponic stores today, planning on purchasing an AC/DE Sunsystem Hood and the necessary ballasts and bulbs. I expected a $300 hood, $150 ballast but they carried the hood for $127. Since I'm growing in a 5x5 they suggested not using a 1000w because of heat (which I've read before) and instead to go with an LED setup for the common reasons( energy efficient, less heat, etc). They carried this LED for $950:
https://rambridge.com/growstation-640w-led-fixture.html

I originally had a light setup cost of around 450 w/o bulb so $950 is quite the jump.
Another store had this for $900:
https://flex-star.com/blogs/news/flexstar-645-w-led
My initial research was mainly on HPS/MH and while I still plan on further researching LED, but I was wondering which of these is better.

Is it worth the cost to switch plans from HID to LED?
Where can I find a comprehensive guide on LED?

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

DIY quantum boards if you're handy. Lots of savings

Growers choice ROI E680, they have a 760 version to

ltobe18 said:

Setup:
5x5 Grow tent
AC Infinity 6" w/ carbon filter
1000w HPS MH Setup
Coco coir w/ perlite
GH Flora Trio
4 plants
etc

Hey guys,

I stopped by a few hydroponic stores today, planning on purchasing an AC/DE Sunsystem Hood and the necessary ballasts and bulbs. I expected a $300 hood, $150 ballast but they carried the hood for $127. Since I'm growing in a 5x5 they suggested not using a 1000w because of heat (which I've read before) and instead to go with an LED setup for the common reasons( energy efficient, less heat, etc). They carried this LED for $950:
https://rambridge.com/growstation-640w-led-fixture.html

I originally had a light setup cost of around 450 w/o bulb so $950 is quite the jump.
Another store had this for $900:
https://flex-star.com/blogs/news/flexstar-645-w-led

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That first light is rather weak sauce. The specs show Efficacy: 2.45 umole/J When I would want to see something above 2.6 for that money. Second light did not provide a number from what I saw.

Look at the HLG 650r https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/products/hlg-650r
It boasts a 2.81

ltobe18 said:

Setup:
5x5 Grow tent
AC Infinity 6" w/ carbon filter
1000w HPS MH Setup
Coco coir w/ perlite
GH Flora Trio
4 plants
etc

Hey guys,

I stopped by a few hydroponic stores today, planning on purchasing an AC/DE Sunsystem Hood and the necessary ballasts and bulbs. I expected a $300 hood, $150 ballast but they carried the hood for $127. Since I'm growing in a 5x5 they suggested not using a 1000w because of heat (which I've read before) and instead to go with an LED setup for the common reasons( energy efficient, less heat, etc). They carried this LED for $950:
https://rambridge.com/growstation-640w-led-fixture.html

I originally had a light setup cost of around 450 w/o bulb so $950 is quite the jump.
Another store had this for $900:
https://flex-star.com/blogs/news/flexstar-645-w-led
My initial research was mainly on HPS/MH and while I still plan on further researching LED, but I was wondering which of these is better.

Is it worth the cost to switch plans from HID to LED?
Where can I find a comprehensive guide on LED?

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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This light looks pretty sweet for a 5x5. I'm probably gonna get the smaller X3-500 next time I buy a new light, but I still have new HLG's in boxes, lol. I have a code for 5% off, but It's still gonna be like $1300 shipped.

$400-500

Kingbrite 600W w/ Samsung diodes and Meanwell driver.


https://m.alibaba.com/product/62196144608/Pre-assembled-kingbrite-600w-led-board.html?__sceneInfo={"type":"appDetailShare","data":{"filterKey":"7.8.2_share","cacheTime":"1800000"}}

Or they have a bar version


https://m.alibaba.com/product/62423844584/KingBrite-600W-Samsung-Lm301h-Lm301B-quantum.html?__sceneInfo={"type":"appDetailShare","data":{"filterKey":"7.8.2_share","cacheTime":"1800000"}}

1000w Meijiu bar for $750


https://m.alibaba.com/product/62395726219/Meijiu-octopus-1000w-samsung-lm301b-epistar.html?__sceneInfo={"type":"appDetailShare","data":{"filterKey":"7.8.2_share","cacheTime":"1800000"}}

Do you currently have a single ended, "regular" 1000 watt HPS/MH, and you were going to upgrade to double ended HPS?

Or do you currently have No Light at all, and you're starting from scratch?

Renfro said:

That first light is rather weak sauce. The specs show Efficacy: 2.45 umole/J When I would want to see something above 2.6 for that money. Second light did not provide a number from what I saw.

Look at the HLG 650r https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/products/hlg-650r
It boasts a 2.81

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Stop it @Renfro. Don't tempt me like that.

ltobe18 said:

Stop it @Renfro. Don't tempt me like that.

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You can get 10% off too if you use code "RIU10", lol.

PadawanWarrior said:

You can get 10% off too if you use code "RIU10", lol.

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Thanks! Would you recommend the 120V or 240v?

youraveragehorticulturist said:

Do you currently have a single ended, "regular" 1000 watt HPS/MH, and you were going to upgrade to double ended HPS?

Or do you currently have No Light at all, and you're starting from scratch?

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Currently have no light at all. I'm now looking at the HLG 650r that @Renfro suggested.

ltobe18 said:

Thanks! Would you recommend the 120V or 240v?

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That's a question for @Renfro. He's the electrician. I don't have a 240v outlet in my room, so I'd get the 120v, lol. Wait for Ren.

ltobe18 said:

Thanks! Would you recommend the 120V or 240v?

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If you have access to 240 then go with that. Less amps means more lights per circuit.

The Fluence VyprX light bars are awesome. One light bar covers 4x4 tray edge to edge. They are a lil spendy at 900$ but they are the best ones I've seen so far.

The VyperX is light too. Ez to hang. The ballast is not a part of the assembly that you hang.

If you haven't seen their lights just check out on youtube. Lots of money behind that product...I own one of em and was blown away by the performance. I really like the 315cmh these days...

If you have warranty issues fluence will back their product. They are however a pain in the ass to deal with if you need a replacement.

ltobe18 said:

Currently have no light at all. I'm now looking at the HLG 650r that @Renfro suggested.

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Just so you know, it's easy to change if needed, the only is difference the plug on the driver.

thetruthoverlies said:

The Fluence VyprX light bars are awesome. One light bar covers 4x4 tray edge to edge. They are a lil spendy at 900$ but they are the best ones I've seen so far.

The VyperX is light too. Ez to hang. The ballast is not a part of the assembly that you hang.

If you haven't seen their lights just check out on youtube. Lots of money behind that product...I own one of em and was blown away by the performance. I really like the 315cmh these days...

If you have warranty issues fluence will back their product. They are however a pain in the ass to deal with if you need a replacement.

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The VyperX series is really meant for greenhouse applications and unless you have a really high ceiling I fear your plants will burn.

Bosgrower said:

The VyperX series is really meant for greenhouse applications and unless you have a really high ceiling I fear your plants will burn.

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I have had nothing but amzing results with them. I keep the light bar hung about 2' above to canopy and get 4x4 coverage edge to edge. It's great.

I have a buddy who runs the fluence spydr series and he has the light burn issues you are talking about.

I am running TLO and no nutrient salts though...

I'm still stuck on 315cmh as my fav lights so far though. Finally picked up a quantum board and like what I see so far.