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Ganja King
have any of u seen the phil schnieder lectures on youtube just type his name and u will see he actually claims to have killed two grey aliens
 

Philly_Buddah

New Member
have any of u seen the phil schnieder lectures on youtube just type his name and u will see he actually claims to have killed two grey aliens
I read up on that years ago and as far as I can tell it has never been disproven.

He was on the run for a long time but they finally got him and he was killed by the government.
 

Dropastone

Well-Known Member
Yeah that was pretty interesting, I watched all 7 videos of his lecture and it definitely makes you think, WTF.
 

TrippyReefer

Active Member
Are Christians automatically inclined to think we are the only intelligent life in the universe?
Btw, you got one trippy ass avatar dropastone
 

Philly_Buddah

New Member
Here is some evidence which pretty much proves there was at least something more going on with what Phil Schneider was talking about.

As I said, he died in 1996. The "official" statement was that it was a suicide, but all things point to him being murdered, and it being planned, heres some notes I found about it which are very interesting:
"1. There was no suicide note.

2. Philip always told his friends and relatives, that if he ever "committed suicide" you would know that he had been murdered.

3. From a number of sources, including his taped lectures (video and audio), and statements to his friends, and the borrowing of a 9mm gun, Philip felt that he and his family were being threatened and were in danger because of his lectures.

4. All of his lecture materials, alien metals, higher math books, photographs of UFO's coming out of the Operation Crossroad A-Bomb, notes for his book on the alien agenda, were missing. (Everything else in the apartment was still there, including gold coins, wallet with hundreds of dollars, jewelry, mineral
specimens, etc.)

5. No coroner ever came out to his apartment after his body was found (against Oregon Law) - and a police investigation never took under consideration that items were missing from his apartment - it was considered a suicide, plain and simple.

6. The medical examiner took blood and urine samples at the autopsy but REFUSED to analyze them, saying that the county would not "waste their money on a suicide". Although I was assured that the samples would be kept for 12 months, when I asked for these samples to be sent to an independent lab 11 months later they were "missing" and presumed "destroyed".

7. Philip had missing fingers on his left hand, and limited motion in his shoulders. I believe that it was physically impossible for Philip to have held the rubber hose in his left hand with missing fingers and then wrap the hose three times with shoulders that had limited motion. In order to end up where his body was, he had to sit on the edge of his bed, wrap the hose around his neck, slowly and painfully strangle to death, and fallen head first into a wheel chair.

8. Philip was an expert in chemicals and his own medical needs. He had multiple pills at hand that could have ended his life quickly and painlessly. He also had a 9mm gun that he had borrowed to protect himself. Why strangle himself in such an unusual manner?

9. Philip was very religious, and did not believe in suicide. He had intense chronic pain all of the time I knew him. At the time of his death, he was on disability, had a housekeeper, and had cancer. The operation to help him with his back pain did not alleviate the pain and he had brittle bone syndrome (osteoperosis). He struggled every day, not to die, but to live.

9. Philip was very religious, and did not believe in suicide. He had intense chronic pain all of the time I knew him. At the time of his death, he was on disability, had a housekeeper, and had cancer. The operation to help him with his back pain did not alleviate the pain and he had brittle bone syndrome (osteoperosis). He struggled every day, not to die, but to live.

11. Philip was seen with an "unknown blonde haired woman" for several months before his death. Several times this same individual was seen or talked about and her mysterious presence only leads one to wonder if she had anything to do with his "suicide".

12. Several people with psychic abilities have indicated that Philip did not commit suicide, but was murdered (some say by 5 people: 4 men and 1 woman, 4 directly and one by taking out a "contract"."

Its incredibly obvious that he was murdered and there was a lot of truth to what he was saying.
 

Smallsn

Well-Known Member
My physic teacher told the class he believes in aliens. He also said that he doubt that they want to visit us. :P Considering that we are fighting against ourselves!
I once saw a red light moving in the dark night sky once before. With my mates punching cones. Sometimes at night if i look into the sky i sometimes see one little light moving slowly in one direction. If see more if u look real careful.
I remember there this black comedian talking about aliens. He was acting as he was a alien with another alien mate. The alien mate suggested that they should come visit earth. The other aliens said WTF are you thinking! They are killing themselves over black and white, we are purple what the fuck do you think they do to us! HAHAHAHA
 

mindphuk

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I understand you dismiss this theory due to a lack of evidence, however you are yet to show any significant evidence to prove the thought wrong. For as long as no man alive has strong, indisputeable evidence for either side, the debate will continue, but the more alternative argument will always see less publicity, time and support.
It is hoped that people can see the fallacy in this thought process. Unfortunately, as evidenced by this forum, it is alive and well.

"A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage"
Suppose (I'm following a group therapy approach by the psychologist Richard Franklin) I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over the centuries, but no real evidence. What an opportunity!
"Show me," you say. I lead you to my garage. You look inside and see a ladder, empty paint cans, an old tricycle -- but no dragon.

"Where's the dragon?" you ask.

"Oh, she's right here," I reply, waving vaguely. "I neglected to mention that she's an invisible dragon."

You propose spreading flour on the floor of the garage to capture the dragon's footprints.
"Good idea," I say, "but this dragon floats in the air."

Then you'll use an infrared sensor to detect the invisible fire.

"Good idea, but the invisible fire is also heatless."

You'll spray-paint the dragon and make her visible.
"Good idea, but she's an incorporeal dragon and the paint won't stick." And so on. I counter every physical test you propose with a special explanation of why it won't work.

Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal, floating dragon who spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? If there's no way to disprove my contention, no conceivable experiment that would count against it, what does it mean to say that my dragon exists? Your inability to invalidate my hypothesis is not at all the same thing as proving it true. Claims that cannot be tested, assertions immune to disproof are veridically worthless, whatever value they may have in inspiring us or in exciting our sense of wonder. What I'm asking you to do comes down to believing, in the absence of evidence, on my say-so. The only thing you've really learned from my insistence that there's a dragon in my garage is that something funny is going on inside my head. You'd wonder, if no physical tests apply, what convinced me. The possibility that it was a dream or a hallucination would certainly enter your mind. But then, why am I taking it so seriously? Maybe I need help. At the least, maybe I've seriously underestimated human fallibility. Imagine that, despite none of the tests being successful, you wish to be scrupulously open-minded. So you don't outright reject the notion that there's a fire-breathing dragon in my garage. You merely put it on hold. Present evidence is strongly against it, but if a new body of data emerge you're prepared to examine it and see if it convinces you. Surely it's unfair of me to be offended at not being believed; or to criticize you for being stodgy and unimaginative -- merely because you rendered the Scottish verdict of "not proved."

Imagine that things had gone otherwise. The dragon is invisible, all right, but footprints are being made in the flour as you watch. Your infrared detector reads off-scale. The spray paint reveals a jagged crest bobbing in the air before you. No matter how skeptical you might have been about the existence of dragons -- to say nothing about invisible ones -- you must now acknowledge that there's something here, and that in a preliminary way it's consistent with an invisible, fire-breathing dragon.

Now another scenario: Suppose it's not just me. Suppose that several people of your acquaintance, including people who you're pretty sure don't know each other, all tell you that they have dragons in their garages -- but in every case the evidence is maddeningly elusive. All of us admit we're disturbed at being gripped by so odd a conviction so ill-supported by the physical evidence. None of us is a lunatic. We speculate about what it would mean if invisible dragons were really hiding out in garages all over the world, with us humans just catching on. I'd rather it not be true, I tell you. But maybe all those ancient European and Chinese myths about dragons weren't myths at all.

Gratifyingly, some dragon-size footprints in the flour are now reported. But they're never made when a skeptic is looking. An alternative explanation presents itself. On close examination it seems clear that the footprints could have been faked. Another dragon enthusiast shows up with a burnt finger and attributes it to a rare physical manifestation of the dragon's fiery breath. But again, other possibilities exist. We understand that there are other ways to burn fingers besides the breath of invisible dragons. Such "evidence" -- no matter how important the dragon advocates consider it -- is far from compelling. Once again, the only sensible approach is tentatively to reject the dragon hypothesis, to be open to future physical data, and to wonder what the cause might be that so many apparently sane and sober people share the same strange delusion.


~Dr. Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark
 

scorpio9

Member
I believe in Aliens, always have, to think there are no other intelligent beings out there somewhere is somewhat mad, weather they have actually vivsted us or not is a different matter, although I believe they have and thought ' WTF, lets get outta here ' as all we do as a species, is fight, go to war, and suck this planet dry, dam shame
 

Wild

Well-Known Member
It is hoped that people can see the fallacy in this thought process. Unfortunately, as evidenced by this forum, it is alive and well.
Yes, I admit wording it as " you are yet to show any evidence " was foolish. The point I was trying to make was that just because there is a lack of evidence at the time does not mean the idea should be wiped from possibility for good, because there is no evidence disproving the idea. Said idea should simply be delayed and assumed as possible (don't know) with no definate answer for or against.
 

Dropastone

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What's up everybody? Seems this thread was abducted by some aliens, so lets see if we can bring it back home.:sad: I want to believe, but unfortunately there are still a lot of doubters out there who don't.

Heads up everybody, a new season of Ancient Aliens premiers on the Discovery Channel this Thursday @ 10pm. Also there are some season one episodes on during the day leading up to the new season, so you might want to set your DVR.;-)

Peace.
 

secretweapon

Active Member
I hope earth find old alien technology that brings us up to speed with the rest of our galaxy, like in mass effect (its a video game, lol)
 

KindGrower

Well-Known Member
The new ancient aliens was bad ass. That Gate of the Gods stuff they talked about that was in Peru was pretty crazy. Also all that stuff about vortex and energy lines was pretty cool. I think they were here along time ago but maybe they try not to be so obvious these days because of hardcore religion (not that I have anything against that I consider myself spiritual but perhaps not so religious, more of a non denominational anti organized religion perspective) and also the fact that alot of people would basically shit them selves if they really found out we were not the only thing floating around in this cosmic cluster fuck. (Don't judge me I'm drunk and stoned off my ass lol) Peace out.
 

thewinghunter

Active Member
theres more galaxies out there than all the grains of sand on earth... u think there no life on those planets that have been around for billions of years? yer crazy not to believe.
 

MacGuyver4.2.0

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George Carlin said it best- “If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little”.
 

Dropastone

Well-Known Member
Yeah I haven't had a chance to watch it yet but I do have it recorded. I'll be watching it first thing in the morning with a cup of coffee and fat bowl.bongsmilie
 

thewinghunter

Active Member
hey dropa stone... check out the SUmerian culture... on the radio program Coast to Coast AM, basically everyone stole their creation myths from them... and the best part is... they dont dilly dally and make up bullshit they say a race of ppl came from space and genetically modifed them and taught them stuff... plain and simple... what religious book says that? and BTW... they knew all the planets existed and way more about the solar system and galaxies than we did just a 100 yrs ago... so hmmmm
 

thewinghunter

Active Member
George Carlin said it best- “If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little”.
hahah yes
hes a genius
also another quote that i think is just crazy funny

"The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we're gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, 'cause that's what it does. It's a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed, and if it's true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new pardigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn't share our prejudice towards plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn't know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, "Why are we here?" Plastic...asshole."
 
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