IndicaAngel
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sounds awesome, I have to get some spray glue adhesive, that's what I don't have on my list.
the studs and joists and other stuff.. way out of my territory, so I will just nod and smile now
Basement-best wall material?
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the studs and joists and other stuff.. way out of my territory, so I will just nod and smile now
DemonTrich
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so far im 165.00 for all the wood, new saw blade, 5lb box of screws, and square. 10x100' panda is about 75.00, 3 cans spray adhesive is 8.99@. still a little more than half the price of an elcheapo 12x12 tent (1300+ for gorilla brand), but a 12x12 wont fit my area. so a custom flower room was a must.
I have very very limited build exp. I drew up the plans, had a buddy go over them. said is good to go. ill be tackling this build by myself, minus the occasional "hey honey, can you hold this" helping me out. my only issue is timing with my next harvest so I don't screw up my current flowering plants and hermie them.
I have very very limited build exp. I drew up the plans, had a buddy go over them. said is good to go. ill be tackling this build by myself, minus the occasional "hey honey, can you hold this" helping me out. my only issue is timing with my next harvest so I don't screw up my current flowering plants and hermie them.
IndicaAngel
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ok guys, I told ya I'd update this when I had something decided.
I'm still not sure exactly what I plan to do because the basement is already laid out to grow in.
seems whoever lived here before me had a fruit n veggie organic market as well as cannabis.
two rooms are huge, I could fit both of my old tents in either, and there is a small room that still has mylar remnants on the walls, but it's
like a small room with shelves and I decided to make that my storage for all my grow shit.
there is also another area that is about 12x 5 that I can wall off if I ever want to and make a veg area and have both
large rooms for flower, but right now that is just not needed.
The issue I need help with now, is I'm losing a significant amount of light because even though the walls are white, I don't feel
it's reflective enough.
How or what do I do, to add panda film/mylar or something to the walls? they are made out of brick or cement. and I can't put
up something I can't get off the walls in a few years if/when we move.
supply room, it has a slight draft, would not put my plants in it because it has too many openings in the cement and stuff.
This little room was like some sort of cellar add on or even more unfinished bit. not sure. I'm new to basements being from CA.
but I won't put my plants in it. so next rooms.
flower room, lights are high since I wanted you all to see the walls clearly
veg room
spare area I could wall off if needed, say when I have males I might make something for them.
so ideas thoughts? what can I put up on concrete and cement to help with light and it has to be able to be taken off when/if the need arises.
and I don't want to do the insulation on all the walls too costly and not something I want to do right now, ( with the exception of blocking off the open area of
course).
Thanks guys!
I'm still not sure exactly what I plan to do because the basement is already laid out to grow in.
seems whoever lived here before me had a fruit n veggie organic market as well as cannabis.
two rooms are huge, I could fit both of my old tents in either, and there is a small room that still has mylar remnants on the walls, but it's
like a small room with shelves and I decided to make that my storage for all my grow shit.
there is also another area that is about 12x 5 that I can wall off if I ever want to and make a veg area and have both
large rooms for flower, but right now that is just not needed.
The issue I need help with now, is I'm losing a significant amount of light because even though the walls are white, I don't feel
it's reflective enough.
How or what do I do, to add panda film/mylar or something to the walls? they are made out of brick or cement. and I can't put
up something I can't get off the walls in a few years if/when we move.
supply room, it has a slight draft, would not put my plants in it because it has too many openings in the cement and stuff.
This little room was like some sort of cellar add on or even more unfinished bit. not sure. I'm new to basements being from CA.
but I won't put my plants in it. so next rooms.
flower room, lights are high since I wanted you all to see the walls clearly
veg room
spare area I could wall off if needed, say when I have males I might make something for them.
so ideas thoughts? what can I put up on concrete and cement to help with light and it has to be able to be taken off when/if the need arises.
and I don't want to do the insulation on all the walls too costly and not something I want to do right now, ( with the exception of blocking off the open area of
course).
Thanks guys!
AltarNation
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Holy shit, I wish I had your problems 
That looks like a great space to work with... not sure about your reflectivity issues... there's a new-fangled material that's kind of expensive.
One thing I was considering was to work with floating panels on rollers instead of trying to make an entire enclosure and/or mylar the walls themselves... kind of box off the plants wherever they are with portable mylar-covered walls or something. I don't know.
That looks like a great space to work with... not sure about your reflectivity issues... there's a new-fangled material that's kind of expensive.One thing I was considering was to work with floating panels on rollers instead of trying to make an entire enclosure and/or mylar the walls themselves... kind of box off the plants wherever they are with portable mylar-covered walls or something. I don't know.
IndicaAngel
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I like that idea.. dumb question though.. what do I use to attach that to cement walls? without causing too much damage of courseI grow in my basement. Try covering the walls with white styrofoam sheets. That's what I use, cheep, works great & you don't need any tools.....
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doublejj
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anything...you can tape the corners together & they will stand on their own. I have 1/2 sheetrock & 1/2 concrete, so I attach to the studs with screws above the concrete. Just paint the concrete white....good luckI like that idea.. dumb question though.. what do I use to attach that to cement walls? without causing too much damage of course
GrowerGoneWild
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DemonTrich
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id repaint the walls and floor with concrete sealer in flat white x2 or 3 coats for a perfect finish. flat whit reflects the most light back at the plants and wont absorb like mirrors. im still up in the air as to what my interior room material (panda, orca, 1/4 plywood/primer/flat white paint) choice will be.
doublejj
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i have re=painted that floor 5-6 times.....it's due again lol
GroErr
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Hey Indica, that space looks almost ready to go. I'd paint the concrete floor with a sealant paint they make specifically for concrete, just ask in any hardware store. It'll reduce humidity a bit and keep dust at bay, concrete is dusty/damp/cold, imo not good for plants to be sitting directly on bare concrete. You can use something as simple as skids and may be able to get them free.
One easy/cheap option I used for my walls when I built my room in the basement last year. It's called DuroFoam insulation. Comes in 4'x8' sheets in different thicknesses. The 3/4" was $12/sheet so covers quite a good area and cheap. Bonus with this stuff is it has a highly reflexive side, like mylar, but cheaper. it's also styrofoam so really easy to work with/cut/attach. You could just velcro it to any existing surface, frame a wall if needed with 2x2 and attach the insulation to the framing, lots of options. I framed my walls, sealed them with a reflective poly that ran like $60 for a 100' roll, then screwed the DuroFoam sheets on top, essentially the insulation, reflective side towards the room/plants are my "walls". Easy to remove later, I used a wood screw every 24" or so and have taken a wall down for maintenance, then just put it back in a matter of minutes. pic below shows what it looks like when finished, I used it in the ceiling too and insulated behind the outside walls, outside temps get into the 0F range through the winter. Cheers...
One easy/cheap option I used for my walls when I built my room in the basement last year. It's called DuroFoam insulation. Comes in 4'x8' sheets in different thicknesses. The 3/4" was $12/sheet so covers quite a good area and cheap. Bonus with this stuff is it has a highly reflexive side, like mylar, but cheaper. it's also styrofoam so really easy to work with/cut/attach. You could just velcro it to any existing surface, frame a wall if needed with 2x2 and attach the insulation to the framing, lots of options. I framed my walls, sealed them with a reflective poly that ran like $60 for a 100' roll, then screwed the DuroFoam sheets on top, essentially the insulation, reflective side towards the room/plants are my "walls". Easy to remove later, I used a wood screw every 24" or so and have taken a wall down for maintenance, then just put it back in a matter of minutes. pic below shows what it looks like when finished, I used it in the ceiling too and insulated behind the outside walls, outside temps get into the 0F range through the winter. Cheers...
GrowerGoneWild
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Yeah, good point about the pots sitting on the floor, Gotta mantain a proper rootzone temp, for good root growth. with all the evaporative cooling with the open style pots, mine sitting on skids/pallets are at least -10 F cooler than ambient.
Epoxy paint for floors.. Great stuff.. slippery when wet tho.
GrowerGoneWild
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GroErr.. The walls in your space look awesome.. !.. I was thinking of doing that with my garden over the poly.. Dammit.. ya beat me to it. I think its better than mylar.
GroErr
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Yeah, my son had some plants growing on a cement floor and they didn't like it, he built a sub-floor since. Sub-floors are one of the easiest DIY things you can do in a basement and really help keep cold/damp out. Good point on the slippery part, they make that stuff now in a non-skid format, I've seen it on some floors, good idea. I built my flower room in my cold cellar, 9" concrete walls and ceiling, already had a 4" exhaust vent, it can double as a tornado shelter - lol I built a sub-floor, 2x4's standing on end, and insulated the outside walls with 1.5" DuroFoam reflective side against the wall, that's the instructions for those reflective foam sheets, supposed to act like vapour barrier against cement. But I sealed the insulation/studs with a proper 6 mil vapour barrier, then put the inside walls up. I just flipped the inside sheets reflective side in. I posted the build in my journal last spring, took me 4 months, well worthwhile, don't even think about the environment now, it's all controlled by inbound air from my HVAC system and filtered exhaust outside. I get extreme weather, from 90's in the summer to -30 in the winter, but by hooking into the HVAC all I do is suck clean/dry/warm or cool air in with an inline fan and inline fan for exhaust. They're both on variable controllers so as the season's change I just adjust the variable controllers up/down as needed, maintains steady temps/rh in the flower room and constant fresh air for the ladies.
GroErr
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I really like it, like a mirror reflection when you step back a few inches, cheap and easy to work with, not a bad solution. I've seen a few folks in here using it or variations of it. I had LED's in there so the reflective properties weren't doing much as LED's are directional. But I switched to CMH + LED's a few runs back and now those walls are proving their worth in reflectivity. If you look around the room in this pic, you can see mirror images of stuff in the room like the circulation fan, plants and pots on the right side.
SheepsBlood
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I want to add to yours Vostok.
Use DAP brand aerosol filler! I just did the windows in my house and that stuff is the shiznitil. It cleans up with a cloth and doesn't stick to your hands. You can easily clean up with water and it adheres and expands just like "Great Stuff"
Also, I can't recall if I got it at Home Cheapo or Lowez. (I intentionally misspell those)
they have rigid insulation that has a shiny side and it's relatively cheap. All you need is a box cutter and something straight to mark and cut with. Just score one side neatly once or twice and bend it in the opposite direction and it snaps. Then just cut the other side where the bend is to finish the cut.
Next BIG TIP. Get rid of the duct tape and use GORILLA TAPE! So much stronger!
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GroErr
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I used that GS to seal small cracks, wish I had read this before using that Great Stuff, it works but wholly crap it sticks like glue when it dries a bit and hard to get it off any surface.
SheepsBlood
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Always good to know for next time. I used GS for a long time before I tried DAP. I was worrisome. Though, I had the chance when I installed new windows on the house, and found it to be way better.
SheepsBlood
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Another thing to use is silicone or mold resistant siliconized caulking
