Best guess on what is in a black hole?

VILEPLUME

VILEPLUME

Well-Known Member
What is your best guess today on what you think is on the other side of a black hole? It might be impossible to go through one, but still fun to ponder what is on the other side.

I was talking to some friends about it and we had some pretty weird answers, what do you guys think? Another dimension? A door to another part of the universe?
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

Well-Known Member
I had this idea once, that black holes are the reproductive organs of the universe. Once a black hole has gathered enough matter (including light) that it has been compressing all of the matter into one singular point... once is has enough it explodes on the other side creating a separate universe with different universal laws contingent on the formation of matter when it "big bangs" into another universe.

This is all considering the idea that we are in a multiverse. And there being an infinite amount of matter in existence.

Great thread.
 
ganja man23

ganja man23

Well-Known Member
Zaehet Strife said:
I had this idea once, that black holes are the reproductive organs of the universe. Once a black hole has gathered enough matter (including light) that it has been compressing all of the matter into one singular point... once is has enough it explodes on the other side creating a separate universe with different universal laws contingent on the formation of matter when it "big bangs" into another universe.

This is all considering the idea that we are in a multiverse. And there being an infinite amount of matter in existence.

Great thread.
Click to expand...
I view them sort of as vacuum cleaners contributing to the natural recycling of energy in space. When a star dies I guess the matter becomes relatively useless and must be converted to useful energy. By that I mean that there's no real purpose for decaying matter, it's more useful to be put towards creating a new star for example. When we die here, our matter is used by preceding life forms, so perhaps the black holes act as the converter. I believe energy to be universal within any universe and that energy simply structures the physical laws. So black holes may very well be linked to other portions of our universe or within other universes within the multiverse.

I don't agree with them making other big bangs within them though. I believe the creation of our physicality was a collision between two universes with similar traits to our own. For example, when a baby is created, it shares 23 chromosomes from each parent, thus then creating a new life form with similar characteristics. so basically the new born cannot reproduce within himself, he must find another similar form of energy that is fit to reproduce and then do it. I'm speculating of course so put the pitch fork away.

Now the interesting part which is what the OP wanted. What happens when we go in it. This is where it gets crazy because to believe that anything can happen at all you need to strain your beliefs. In physicality you will almost certainly die. I remember by physics teacher way back in the 11th grade telling us in his british accent that "it's beyond death, really". Let's just say I doubt any of us will ever have to cross this bridge. If we ever find ourselves near a black hole, I'm sure we will have much more understanding of what they are.
 
bioWheel

bioWheel

Well-Known Member
I believe the entire universe as we know it is actually in a black hole. So you already know the answer to your question. :hug:
 
ganja man23

ganja man23

Well-Known Member
bioWheel said:
I believe the entire universe as we know it is actually in a black hole. So you already know the answer to your question. :hug:
Click to expand...
That reminds me of the grinch with it being christmas time and all. the whole story took place within the snowflake. who's to say there are not billions upon billions of tiny universes inscribed within every atom? the possibilities are endless.
 
Zaehet Strife

Zaehet Strife

Well-Known Member
ganja man23 said:
I view them sort of as vacuum cleaners contributing to the natural recycling of energy in space. When a star dies I guess the matter becomes relatively useless and must be converted to useful energy. By that I mean that there's no real purpose for decaying matter, it's more useful to be put towards creating a new star for example. When we die here, our matter is used by preceding life forms, so perhaps the black holes act as the converter. I believe energy to be universal within any universe and that energy simply structures the physical laws. So black holes may very well be linked to other portions of our universe or within other universes within the multiverse.

I don't agree with them making other big bangs within them though. I believe the creation of our physicality was a collision between two universes with similar traits to our own. For example, when a baby is created, it shares 23 chromosomes from each parent, thus then creating a new life form with similar characteristics. so basically the new born cannot reproduce within himself, he must find another similar form of energy that is fit to reproduce and then do it. I'm speculating of course so put the pitch fork away.

Now the interesting part which is what the OP wanted. What happens when we go in it. This is where it gets crazy because to believe that anything can happen at all you need to strain your beliefs. In physicality you will almost certainly die. I remember by physics teacher way back in the 11th grade telling us in his british accent that "it's beyond death, really". Let's just say I doubt any of us will ever have to cross this bridge. If we ever find ourselves near a black hole, I'm sure we will have much more understanding of what they are.
Click to expand...
I don't believe anything i just said... it was merely an idea based on nothing but my imagination (the same as yours, except you claim belief instead of thought). Conclusions that arise from our imaginations should never transform into belief without careful examination, study, experimentation and peer review. But alas, we see it happen every single day.

Oh, btw, neat idea bro.
 
Doer

Doer

Well-Known Member
VILEPLUME said:
What is your best guess today on what you think is on the other side of a black hole? It might be impossible to go through one, but still fun to ponder what is on the other side.

I was talking to some friends about it and we had some pretty weird answers, what do you guys think? Another dimension? A door to another part of the universe?
Click to expand...
Well, it seems the math can work in several ways, but "to go through" is not in the math, afaik. That concept is about the purely theoretical wormhole.

The best explanation, I think, is there is nothing in there, at all. According Dr. Kip Thorne's work, all the matter is stripped of it's energy to maintain an ulta-dense knot of wickedly twisted space-time.

This builds on the work of Albert Einstein that showed that matter is warping or compressing space-time. Matter somehow creates a gradient in space that is "downhill" for all other matter. We call it gravity. We think this Higgs field is discovered, now, as evidenced by a new boson found by the Large Hadron Collider this year.

Dr, Thorne's work shows how space-time itself, compressed so severely, can be a gravity source without matter.

And there is further work, by physicist, Milo Wolf that seeks to describe mathematically, all matter as resonance or harmonic of space itself.


"The simplest resonance is the electron whose mathematical physical structure is exactly known. Electron waves (comprising all charged particles) extend to infinity serving as the 'communicator' of the natural laws. In contrast, the hadrons exist in a closed, high density region of high-frequency waves analogous to waves inside a drum or a hollow sphere. No one is sure. It is thought that the many modes of possible vibration in the closed space correspond to the many types of hadron particles."

And indeed, there is math to suggest that black holes are the Mothers of other universes. Physicist, Lee Smolin, has put this forward.
 
Doer

Doer

Well-Known Member
bioWheel said:
I believe the entire universe as we know it is actually in a black hole. So you already know the answer to your question. :hug:
Click to expand...
Yes, the basic math we have now, works quite well if our solar system has been sucked into a black hole. We would not even know, due to the time dilation effects.
 
C

CC Dobbs

Well-Known Member
I you will find a lot of black in the middle of a black hole. I don't know what black is but I bet that if you can get a nice scoop and have it tested you'd win a big prize. You had better bring a really big rocket to get back to Earth with your scoop.
 
ganja man23

ganja man23

Well-Known Member
Zaehet Strife said:
I don't believe anything i just said... it was merely an idea based on nothing but my imagination (the same as yours, except you claim belief instead of thought). Conclusions that arise from our imaginations should never transform into belief without careful examination, study, experimentation and peer review. But alas, we see it happen every single day.

Oh, btw, neat idea bro.
Click to expand...
What we differ on is our integrity with the respect to belief. I consider any thought I accept as a belief and that was my fault because I should have said speculation rather than belief. I don't necessarily believe that as I have not fully accepted the thought yet, it's merely crossed my mind.
 
polyarcturus

polyarcturus

Well-Known Member
if a sun if the opposite of of a black hole than a black hole must be a reverse sun. therefore instead of rapid intense compression at the center like a sun there must be rapid expansion at the center of a black hole
newtons law for action there must be an equal and opposite reaction.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

Well-Known Member
polyarcturus said:
if a sun if the opposite of of a black hole than a black hole must be a reverse sun. therefore instead of rapid intense compression at the center like a sun there must be rapid expansion at the center of a black hole
newtons law for action there must be an equal and opposite reaction.
Click to expand...
The opposite of a black hole wouldn't be a star, which is the precursor to a black hole, but would be a white hole.
 
E

ExtremeMetal43

Active Member
Not to be boring but i think blackholes are just so much matter compressed so dense that light cant escape. they are the center of universes. Once a blackhole builds to much pressure it explades but takes all that matter and when it explodes pure energy and matter comes out. I guess if there was a big bang it was a singular blackhole that exploded.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top