cfl vs hps war ?

There is absolutely no battle to be had. I mean, with so many different strain's and genetic's, so to speak. CFL's could work a lot better with one strain for flowering and another straing for veg (the same goes for HPS's). It's kind of a hit and miss subject. You have to find what work's best for you, impliment anything you think might contribute to bigger yield's and better looking bud's. It's all up to us on how we grow and what we use and we can only give advice, coming from our strain's and what we used with our strain's. If someone think's their way is better, that's just ignorance. So use your imagination and have fun with growing. Try new thing's...It's like sex..yeah it's always fun, but isn't it more fun when you try new thing's and they work out even better!!!! lol...good luck and enjoy everyone!!

You're probably right that I will like the hps better, I'll, most likely go with hps on my next grow and when I start cloning, cause the cfl set-up is so difficult and time consuming to build and maintain cause ya gotta keep adjusting the lights and deal with so many cords, bulbs etc... Yet you still have to vent for heat just like for the hps system.

well well well
ive noticed that people always put together cfl with lot of bulbs as 1 of the main argument
but like i said b4 what if u have 1 big 200 or 300 watts envirolite
no more 20 cords and shit
can we have people compare one bulb vs one bulb
250 hps vs 250 envirolite

mowgly said:

well well well
ive noticed that people always put together cfl with lot of bulbs as 1 of the main argument
but like i said b4 what if u have 1 big 200 or 300 watts envirolite
no more 20 cords and shit
can we have people compare one bulb vs one bulb
250 hps vs 250 envirolite

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that would be nice to see... i think hps would still smack it.... the best would be both of them...lol

genfranco said:

that would be nice to see... i think hps would still smack it.... the best would be both of them...lol

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very simple mh for veg hps for flower. its all about the kelvin rating. plus if your gonna spend time to grow do it right, find the grow store mines over an hour away and just do it youll never look back!

Dont need Mh anymore, what with dual spectrum hps bulbs.

mazpot said:

I say CFL for veg and HPS for flowering. HPS is way better for flowering because they produced rich in red spectrum.

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i agree 100%. i got 16 cfls in one closet for growing, and a 600w HPS in the flowering room and everything seems happier in the flowering room. paid 200 bucks for the lamp, another 120 for the bulb so its not cheap, but you can make that back if all goes well. i want the best for my babies so they grow big and have huge nugs. im still on my first grow but check out my album on my profile, you can see the difference

smokinskins said:

very simple mh for veg hps for flower. its all about the kelvin rating. plus if your gonna spend time to grow do it right, find the grow store mines over an hour away and just do it youll never look back!

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im sorry i gave you the impression that i didnt know all that you just said....LOL

mowgly said:

well well well
ive noticed that people always put together cfl with lot of bulbs as 1 of the main argument
but like i said b4 what if u have 1 big 200 or 300 watts envirolite
no more 20 cords and shit
can we have people compare one bulb vs one bulb
250 hps vs 250 envirolite

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HPS will win that battle. The reason u need multiple cfl bulbs is not so much the wattage but because each section of the plant needs its own light. The cfl light is not far reaching for penetration where the hps is. With high wattage hps u can cover the whole plant. With high wattage cfl u still need more bulbs for rest of plant

On lumens alone the hps wins hands down. These are both powerplant products. Their 250 envirolite 15000 lum their 250 hps 32000 lum. Trying to find the par value for the envirolite. For the hps it is 80 par watts per m2.

laserbrn said:

I still have my 250w HPS that I used in my closet when I first started growing. I was able to get a QP in 8 weeks from 6 clones under that light. I just don't see a 250w envirolite pulling that off.

It's really a matter of preference. The problem I have seen with most 250w's I've come across (HPS) is that the ballast is built into the hood/reflector so it keeps a lot more heat up high in your grow room. I personally always run my ballasts outside my grow room so as to generate less heat.

If it were me to do all over again and cost was a concern, I would buy a 250w hps and built a DIY cooltube for it. It won't take much a fan to cool it and being air cooled it probably be cooler than a 250w floro.

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This is exactly what I have done. Removed the ballast, DIY cooltube. I run one standard bathroom fan on the cool tube and one for the cab with no heat issues. I'm harvesting my 3rd crop out of this thing today so I'll update in a few more days on weight.

mexiblunt said:

This is exactly what I have done. Removed the ballast, DIY cooltube. I run one standard bathroom fan on the cool tube and one for the cab with no heat issues. I'm harvesting my 3rd crop out of this thing today so I'll update in a few more days on weight.

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Mexiblunt....aren't you the Sidewaze Daze guy from a long while back? For some reason I'll never forget that grow.

laserbrn said:

Mexiblunt....aren't you the Sidewaze Daze guy from a long while back? For some reason I'll never forget that grow.

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Hahaha . Yup!!

OK. i may have been influenced here on HPS for flower.
how many plants will a 250 watt high pressure sodium light grow, progressively and successfully, with the plants having all they want of direct light?
i am very in limited in space, but i have not separated the males yet and and a day into 12/12.

yeah the moving of the CFL lights are a chore.
but dang..the plants do respond well to CFLs.

It's all about your knowledge, CFL's are better for less heat. ie no jail time, most likely, and if you're on a budget you can always add small 50 watt sodium lights to balance the frequency. In the end with proper conditions, you can see a pound. Most people complain about CFL's because they didn't succeed, but many people grew a half of pound with them and moved on after they got the money for HPS. you don't hear them complaining because they wern't stupid, YOU NEED LIGHT and a lot of it. 500 watts minimum for a good grow with cfl's. Y adapters and as many lights as you can get. The only reason HPS has tighter buds is because it frequency is 1900 k or 2100 k, when a cfl only goes to 2700, check your science, man.

sunahura said:

It's all about your knowledge, CFL's are better for less heat. ie no jail time, most likely, and if you're on a budget you can always add small 50 watt sodium lights to balance the frequency. In the end with proper conditions, you can see a pound. Most people complain about CFL's because they didn't succeed, but many people grew a half of pound with them and moved on after they got the money for HPS. you don't hear them complaining because they wern't stupid, YOU NEED LIGHT and a lot of it. 500 watts minimum for a good grow with cfl's. Y adapters and as many lights as you can get. The only reason HPS has tighter buds is because it frequency is 1900 k or 2100 k, when a cfl only goes to 2700, check your science, man.

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CFL's are inefficient and suck. That's the main reason that most growers get smaller yeilds of crummier buds. If you put 600w of CFL's in a grow room you will get less yeild and the same if not more heat than an HPS.

CFL's are good for vegging and low light requirement conditions, but as soon as you try adding tons and tons of them the heat accumulates.

Everyone says that CFL's and flouro's generate less heat, but if you've run them you know it's just not true. The heat is spread over the surface area of all of the bulbs instead of being generated from a single source, but cumulatively they are very similar. A single match in a room is very hot if you go put your finger on it, but it won't do a very good job of increasing the temperature in a room. Put a radiator in the room and watch how quickly it can change the temperature of the space while not being nearly as hot as a match.

mowgli said:

alright im kinda new to the growing scene back then for me it was only hps didn't know nothing about envirolite cfl and stuff but 3-4 years ago i start hearing about these envirolites seem interesting to me because of the electricity like everybody else i think
now here is my question
why the war between cfl and hps
people on forums seems to hate
you got the cfl lovers and his lovers
so i think its pretty confusing for growers wannabe no ?
so here it is can people give their yield per gram under 250 watt cfl and same for his
then 400 etc etc ...
even small settings
like 70 watt his vs 70 cfl
without hate please
and if a similar kind of post been done b4 please gimme the link coz i can find any good 1 most of them r like "his is better that's it"vice versa
not very productive
so thanks for Ur interest and for everybody that's gonna participate
peace

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no war or comparison MH and HPS all the way.. better results

i keep my hps lamp 3 inch's from plant the leaves get bleeched but who cares hps for me
2 bulbs blue spec and red spec to easy

how hard is it to understand you can get good results with both shit the same results but the difference is that you need a shit load more cfls to equal the lumens of hps and mh.

sunahura said:

It's all about your knowledge, CFL's are better for less heat. ie no jail time, most likely, and if you're on a budget you can always add small 50 watt sodium lights to balance the frequency. In the end with proper conditions, you can see a pound. Most people complain about CFL's because they didn't succeed, but many people grew a half of pound with them and moved on after they got the money for HPS. you don't hear them complaining because they wern't stupid, YOU NEED LIGHT and a lot of it. 500 watts minimum for a good grow with cfl's. Y adapters and as many lights as you can get. The only reason HPS has tighter buds is because it frequency is 1900 k or 2100 k, when a cfl only goes to 2700, check your science, man.

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HID lighting produces more grams per watt of electricity used than CFLs do.

Use C-3 Anti-detection film for your reflective material and it reflects back into the grow room 90% of heat so the little 10% extra amount of heat escaping into your home is not going to make anyone’s home stand out if a heat signature is taken.

If you try to come close to matching the amount of light put off by HID lighting using CFLs you use a lot more wattage doing it.

To match the light coming from one single 400-watt HPS it takes 5.3 125-watt (actual watts) CFLs. That means you use 662.5 watts to get the light from one single 400-watt HPS.