idlewilder

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The entire system(world for that matter) is broken and there is ZERO accountability. Cops should be punished for egregiously breaking the law. If they are let free and commit more heinous crimes, the group that let them off in the first place should be punished severely.
Playing devils advocate...don’t break the law and the cops won’t fuck with you, but, If you infringe on someone else’s constitutional rights, you shouldn’t be allowed to your own
 

18six50

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Chuckers gear,somewhere in Cali...
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Being grown by a friend.
Love to all,who got love for all...


Got me really thinking about beds indoors,anybody have any experience with it?
I haven't grown indoors in beds exactly, But I used to grow my Sativas indoors in 25 gallon containers, the ones you see with rope handles, I'd drill about a million small holes in them. I tried using the same containers for indicas and hybrids and I found it easier to grow with smaller containers and didn't seem to lose much when it came to harvest time. But for those Sativas that take 120 days and longer to flower the big containers worked wonders. When I tried growing Sativas in smaller containers I would often get root lock before the end of they cycle and it absolutely did slow down my growth. For convenience it's just easier to have smaller containers so you can get to the plants to give them individual attention, especially when they are young. Right now I'm growing in a dozen milk crates, the ones that hold 4 one gallon jugs. They get lined with grow-bags and actually hold 5.5 gallons total and they can be pushed together creating what amounts to a bed of dirt. 12 of them hold a bale of pro-mix mixed with a big bag of perlite. After each harvest the pro-mix and perlite goes outside to be used in the out-door garden.
 

18six50

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Been flowering in 6 qt plastic Sterlite #1011 in ROLS using teas for some time now, water by weight. Used8 8 qt #1022 before that. Easy to handle and nice fit for LST in my ten5. Lots of small plants for great variety.
These plant limits suck or I'd be growing a sea of green with 50 plants under each light and using pots that size too. People often say they don't have room for enough plants, when in reality you can always cram a bunch of plants under one light if you use small enough containers. It's much quicker to fill your canopy with a bunch of small plants than to try and fill the same space with only a few plants. I've tried just about everything at one time or another, even went hyrdo for a while and although it was fast it really wasn't that great for someone like me who rarely grows from clones and always has a bunch of different strains growing at once. Hydro worked great if you are running clones from the same strain all the time, other than that though I'd rather work with pro-mix, which to me is a happy medium between soil and hydro. With only 12 plants I want to use as much soil per plant as possible and still be able to move them around to be able to keep them trimmed properly and to position them under the lights with the tall plants on the outside and shorter ones right under the bulb. I did the live soil thing in those huge pots 25 years ago too, I've done organic this and that and the other too. Now when I'm in the mood to go organic I run soil from detroitnutrientcompany.com I split a pallet of it each year with a friend of mine who knows the owner of the place, he bring it up himself for us (I resell enough to locals, so that I'm getting a bunch for myself free). If I was a noob this is all I'd grow in and I've gotten a dozen local noobs to use this soil because of that. It's super forgiving. For myself though, I like more control over my fertilizer regiment and promix or other soiless mixes give me the quicker growth cycle from hydro and the ability to control fertilizer to each plant individually. Five years from now I'll probably be experimenting with something else, LOL.
 

Joedank

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Now back to our regularly scheduled broadcast here’s some chuckers gear
(Thanks gen)
Front to back ; cherry pie x dessert breath; crinkle cookies, side chick, cherry pie x dessert breath , and another side chick. E70F0EE5-E2CB-42CC-A695-A3DFD0D75E00.jpegas I said before The cherry pie cross has the best high I’ve ever experience from a cannabis plant and the side chick is one of the heaviest feeders I have ever seen she’s going to be at a monster I’m about to flip them in a week for a light Depp situation should be fun to see I’ll keep you posted
 

18six50

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I know this is not the thread for this but I love all of ya! View attachment 4580300View attachment 4580299
That would probably help to build some accountability from within. The problem of course is that it also punishes the good with the bad. Not that I'm totally against it either, just that it's what it would do.

I'd do the libertarian solution. I rarely suggest any type of law but I would in this case.

Police officers should be forced to carry liability insurance paid by them or the police department. If they harm someone through either negligence or intentionally, violate their human rights, etc. it pays out BIG TIME, payouts would have be to set very high. They would still of course be punished for any crime they committed.

Officers like him would be liabilities because they would cost departments too much money to employ. Insurance companies never want to pay out but at the same time they know it's easier to jack up the cost of insurance, rather than fight cases in court. This is why they like to look at individual records like our credit scores, health history, and driving records, etc. before we get insurance. Instead of a credit score All cops would by law, get an individual policing score, if they look like they are at risk of costing the insurance company millions, they will charge them accordingly.

A guy like him would have cost way too much to have been employable, just a quick look at his record tells me that few insurance company would have insured and if they did it would have cost more than his salary.
 

silverhazefiend

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Everything is above dirt except for
1 gelato 33 x bday idk I put it in water now I see it cracking
2 bubba s1 .. these things are like rocks I can’t even squeeze it it makes my fingers hurt .. I think I need a soak (I noticed some bubba seeds are like this)
1 og kush - sank in water so we’ll see

I dropped 10x ecsd bx from Chaco from around that time 2010-12 ish ..

I have a pack of road dawg on the way .. 2x packs of th seeds French macaroon (2x for 50$) 1 pack of silver haze #9 ..4 packs from rado and one pack from cap ..and I got the otm bx from mosca already

I bought a tent a got one free .. maybe it was a sign to use for males
 

Cannademik

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I have a few questions for you guys..
If I were to lets say.. grow a male plant A and pollinate a female plant B. Then would that be an F1? How do people "stabalize" what they have created? Do people grow out the F1 and then make female seeds and grow the female seeds until they have a stable F1? I'm so confused on why people say you can't just "pollinate a female plant, collect seeds and grow them out because they will and most likely herm."
 

natureboygrower

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This is my Goji x Gg4(clone only)/ortega (baddawg seeds) Showing mostly Goji traits, smell and structure wise. It did show some pinwheeling on a few leaves the real Gg4 is known for. Ive had this Goji 3 years now and it takes 70days. This is at day 50 from flip and I think I'll take some tops tonight or tomorrow night. This could turn out to be a nice, quick finishing outdoor which would be cool. Weather is kinda rough in the fall.
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18six50

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I have a few questions for you guys..
If I were to lets say.. grow a male plant A and pollinate a female plant B. Then would that be an F1? How do people "stabalize" what they have created? Do people grow out the F1 and then make female seeds and grow the female seeds until they have a stable F1? I'm so confused on why people say you can't just "pollinate a female plant, collect seeds and grow them out because they will and most likely herm."
Using a good male is the least likely way you will get a herm. Finding a good male is the trick but it's not the herm part you really have to worry about with males. If you breed two F1's from the same line you will get different phenotypes that will pop up in the next generation because of recessive genes mixing in different combination. To get back to the original f1's is a bit of a trick, or should I say it's not all that easy. The F1 is "Stable" after that you are trying to grow out plants that are as close to the original F1 over and over until each time you pop seeds they all come out like the F1 or whatever other pheno you might decide to isolate by back-crossing. When you see all these BX strains, that means they are working on stabilizing the strain so when you pop a seed you will know exactly what it will be.

A "Stable" strain does not mean stable as in No Hermies, it means that each seed will put off the same type of plant instead of a bunch of weird mixes with some more sativa and some more indica, etc.

Crossing a male with a female isn't going to give you hermies unless one of those two already has hermies in them.

Now when it comes to crossing and recrossing these Feminized seeds, IDK if that causes hermies. I don't think it really does, I think what happens is that a lot of these really good strains came from bagseed, so they came with hermies in them as a recessive trait. If you cross enough plants that have those same recessive genes for hermie, then you get hermies. I think it's possible to breed feminized to feminized over and over again too with getting hermies but I don't think I've ever seen anyone actually do it without getting at least some issues. But that could just be my experience too. So I prefer to use a good Male and only occasionally will I use a Feminized plant to potentate another feminized plant. I think you push your luck if you breed that way too many times but I could be wrong on that, IDK.
 

raggyb

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Using a good male is the least likely way you will get a herm. Finding a good male is the trick but it's not the herm part you really have to worry about with males. If you breed two F1's from the same line you will get different phenotypes that will pop up in the next generation because of recessive genes mixing in different combination. To get back to the original f1's is a bit of a trick, or should I say it's not all that easy. The F1 is "Stable" after that you are trying to grow out plants that are as close to the original F1 over and over until each time you pop seeds they all come out like the F1 or whatever other pheno you might decide to isolate by back-crossing. When you see all these BX strains, that means they are working on stabilizing the strain so when you pop a seed you will know exactly what it will be.

A "Stable" strain does not mean stable as in No Hermies, it means that each seed will put off the same type of plant instead of a bunch of weird mixes with some more sativa and some more indica, etc.

Crossing a male with a female isn't going to give you hermies unless one of those two already has hermies in them.

Now when it comes to crossing and recrossing these Feminized seeds, IDK if that causes hermies. I don't think it really does, I think what happens is that a lot of these really good strains came from bagseed, so they came with hermies in them as a recessive trait. If you cross enough plants that have those same recessive genes for hermie, then you get hermies. I think it's possible to breed feminized to feminized over and over again too with getting hermies but I don't think I've ever seen anyone actually do it without getting at least some issues. But that could just be my experience too. So I prefer to use a good Male and only occasionally will I use a Feminized plant to potentate another feminized plant. I think you push your luck if you breed that way too many times but I could be wrong on that, IDK.
On the hermie confusion was that maybe about people selfing with a nanner or a hermie that if i understood correctly produces female seeds, but then those can herm on you.

What i was wondering further was what is the influence of crossing siblings and grandparents and all this incest. could it be better to avoid inbreeding by for example crossing two pairs all the same breed but as unrelated as possible. Then take a child from each pair and make F1. And take that as far as you can go without incest but knowing that yes we are all related to Kevin Bacon. Instead of all this back crossing of child to grandparents. It may be harder to control the outcome but can that give you a stable strain?
 
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