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DST · Aug 23, 2010

Heads Up said:
How much do you think we pay for things we really don't need to grow a weed? It's a weed, you know, those things we are always trying to kill on our lawns but never succeed. We seem to constantly be searching for the magic bullet that will give us results we only dream about.

Light is the plant's food...everything else are supplements.

Of course you need water to go with the light, but with that in mind, how big is your collection of nutrients, supplements, voodoo juices, snake oils and bloom boosters? I have some stuff that's been sitting around unopened for over a year. As for soil, I use scott's premium for container plants. It's cheap, readily available and works great in my opinion. I'll never buy another bag of foxfarm or any other pro sort of mix. I am trying to let my experience replace the mystery and voodoo that surrounds growing. That's why I started giving my girls advanced nutrients big bud tonight...I'm still looking for that magic bullet. If that bullet doesn't work, gravity will, hell, they're gettin' the gravity regardless.

The girls are really starting to hit their stride, tuesday will finish week three of 12/12. I have upped the strength of their nutes and so far not a single sign of burn. Over the next three weeks I plan on giving them as much as they can stand instead of my low steady doses of nutes. From what I've noticed, weeks four, five and six seem to be when the plants require their strongest doses of nutes. Week seven I'll start cutting back the strength and assess their progress at that point and see how much more time might be needed to finish. The last week of flowering I only give them water and molasses.

Couldn't agree more, and regarding products, as I try to repeat in my own journal, I use Supermix Grond from BioNova, and PK 13/14, two products that I mix to achieve the desired NPK ratio. All the companies are doing is providing products with different NPK for different stages of the plants growth. Why not just mix two products to gain the desired ratio required. Oh, I lie, I also use a coco/soil to grow in, which I buy from my local DIY store for 5 euro a bag.....

Will post up some of my pics of what I have chopped. I had to kill my second cheese plant, I lost about 80% of the bud due to white fly/aphides, I have never seen a plant so mullered in my whole life....quite gutted. However, I think I have enough Kush and DPQ and Chemcheisel and John Doe to keep me going until I chop the Casey, the Dazey, The Blackjack, and the Thelma down...all my cheese clones have rooted so it's all on for the next round. Time to rebuild the grow room when the rest is down.

nas2007 said:
i understand the part to get a cool tube, but after that i cant understand lol can you be abit more presice thanks

I think he meant the Tan the picture in your avatar has....correct me if I am wrong...

Bueno Time said:
Ordered all the rest of the stuff I need to get my tent up and running. Beans should be here this week. Carbon filter and inline fan will be here this week. Also waiting for speed controller, ducting, 600w lumatek ballast, 600w hps bulb, and air cooled reflector. Its gonna be sweet! First time as a 600 watter so should be an absolute blast. Highest wattage I ever worked with was 400w MH and that was as a noobie and I get better results now with a 150w HPS than I was with the 400w MH so a 600w HPS now plus invaluable experience growing this will be my 4th grow so should be a pretty nice lil yield...we will have to wait and see.

Save me a spot guys! Im in!

Spot is saved, we are waiting patiently Beuno. Welcome to the 600!!!

Peace, DST

DST · Aug 23, 2010

Colas left to right:
DOG Kush - Chemchiesel - John Doe

OG Kush:

DST

days to daze · Aug 23, 2010

surgedup said:
Well the promix HP has dolomite lime and calcitic lime for stabilizing ph i use tap water but im thinking the lime may be stunting there growth they just do not seem to take off as if they were in pre nuted soil .... real slow growth I think im going to switch to FFOF from now on or Happy Frog.... but my tap is coming out 7.5 no chlorine in the water its well water .... ppm is at 150 straight out the tap... they yellow pretty early too maybe because of no nutes in the soil or the lime which is stunting them I have one autoflower its stunted was in the Promix HP and shes about 2 inches big budding already just one solid bud lol what soil do you guys use usually ? do you make your own or what ..... thanks any help appreciated

I don't see why you should spend all the extra money on fancy soil.. I just searched garden centers jabbing bags of soil with a PH meter. The one I use is actually a compost. It's perfect right up until the start of flower when i need to add nutes. ass heads up said.. its a weed... im sure they would grow in torn up newspaper if you wanted.

DST · Aug 23, 2010

days to daze said:
I don't see why you should spend all the extra money on fancy soil.. I just searched garden centers jabbing bags of soil with a PH meter. The one I use is actually a compost. It's perfect right up until the start of flower when i need to add nutes. ass heads up said.. its a weed... im sure they would grow in torn up newspaper if you wanted.

Indeed, they even grow out of garden rubbish bags.....

Heads Up · Aug 23, 2010

nas2007 said:
i understand the part to get a cool tube, but after that i cant understand lol can you be abit more presice thanks

Yes I could be a bit more precise but this forum is about growing, I wouldn't want to make the young people blush.

curious old fart said:
Heads Up

Three bulbs are 6400k and one is 4100k, (one of the 6400 burned out).

I germinate in coca, except for the motarebel seeds. He had stated that they were
"hard shelled" so I followed his instruction and put them in a damp paper towel for
24 hours, where 5 of 9 cracked and put them all into coca. They all broke the surface by the fifth day when they were trans-planted into their current containers. I put his sativa queens straight into coca without a pre-soak with no problem.
Except for the coca for germinating, I grow everything in a 60/40 peat/perlite mix

Generally I soak my beans for twenty four hours in distilled water and then into damp paper towels until a tap root pops the shell. With hard shell beans you can also put a small piece of sandpaper into a box of wooden matches, take out the matches of course and shake it around for a minute to scuff the shells. It makes water absorption easier.

days to daze · Aug 23, 2010

DST said:
Indeed, they even grow out of garden rubbish bags.....

nicccccccccccccce

Heads Up · Aug 23, 2010

Does anyone else use smart pots for their grows? Went over to my partner in stupids house yesterday. He has six red diesel and six acapulco gold girls going. All feminized. They're about two weeks old and already on their fourth node. He to uses a t-5 for vegging. To straighten out a bit of confusion I've noticed, my partner and I have different grows, he has his, I have mine. We do not share grows, only the results. He does however have really good well water. I've ph'd nothing this grow, I'm into week eight of the grow and just for shits and giggles I put a ph meter into my soil the other day, 6.5 on the button.

Heads Up · Aug 23, 2010

DST, out of curiosity, what do you think you'll pull in dry weight off that monster? It's amazing what the sun can do for a plant.

Heads Up · Aug 23, 2010

Does anyone know what makes up sour diesel? I've read it was originally from chem dog but when it got to the east coast they started calling it 'the diesel' cause they didn't like the name chem dog. I also notice that headband is part chem dog, I'm wondering how close to sour diesel headband is?

DST · Aug 23, 2010

Heads Up said:
DST, out of curiosity, what do you think you'll pull in dry weight off that monster? It's amazing what the sun can do for a plant.

Good question, depends on the sun over the coming months...my balcony has two inches of water on it this morning and I have been out with buckets trying to clear off the water!!! But if all goes well I would be happy with 1/2 lb.

Heads Up said:
Does anyone know what makes up sour diesel? I've read it was originally from chem dog but when it got to the east coast they started calling it 'the diesel' cause they didn't like the name chem dog. I also notice that headband is part chem dog, I'm wondering how close to sour diesel headband is?

All comes from fairly similar linneage as far as I am aware. The East Coast Sour Diesel and the OG Kush are what makes the Headband up. Then there is various different Headbands, Headband 707 (which represents the telephone area code for part of LA as far as I am aware)

I have smoked Sour Diesel that smelled just like OG Kush, and all in all they have fairly similar tastes and effects. There are however a million stories behind the Chemdog - Sour Diesel, OG Kush - legacy......I would take them all with a pinch of salt.

DST

curious old fart · Aug 23, 2010

DST

I was just beginning to recover from cola envy and
damn if you don't bring on another episode.
Very well done!!!

Has the feeling returned to your hands and
arms from all the trimming?

Looks like you had a good week-end!

:peace:

cof

DST · Aug 23, 2010

curious old fart said:
DST

I was just beginning to recover from cola envy and
damn if you don't bring on another episode.
Very well done!!!

Has the feeling returned to your hands and
arms from all the trimming?

Looks like you had a good week-end!

cof

Thanks cof, had a great weekend. We had Sail 2010 (all the long ships, etc) so was out on a boat with friends having a jolly. I'll share my fave pic here as well....you can also just about make out the Naval Frigate parked, we were right underneath that at one point...

oh, and the feeling has returned. Just got the usual hard lump that has formed on my thumb, haha.

surgedup · Aug 23, 2010

It may be this hard well water I dont know .....theres no chlorine in it at all i went and got it sampled at a pool shop ppm is 150 ph is about 7.2 7.3 so ph is kinda high but should not be that much of a problem...

las fingerez · Aug 23, 2010

D - loving the washing line, give us a shout if you need help ironing out the creaces lol.

not long now chaps (and ladies), not long

LT1RX7 Drifter · Aug 23, 2010

hello new to 600 club i run a nextgen 400/600digi in a magnum xxxl 6' vented hood in a 3x3x5 cabinet growing scrog, sunmaster bulbs, fox farm nutrients, 6 5gal dwc, lots of ventilation no co2 harvest is usually a 1-1.5 lbs cured

strictly seedleSs · Aug 23, 2010

DST said:
There are however a million stories behind the Chemdog - Sour Diesel, OG Kush - legacy......I would take them all with a pinch of salt.
DST

Exactly, I have grown strains that had "og" tacked onto the end of the name, and they didnt grow/taste/smell anything like og. I know that chem dog or chem 91 was part on the original "og" lineage (Ive grown both chem dog and chem 91 and they smell alot like OG), but I haven't smoked any headband that I thought shared characteristics of og or chem. Im not a huge fan of headband, but og og og...wow, gotta love that OG. If headband had more taste I would be more inclined to grow it, maybe the stuff Ive smoke just wasnt grown proper.

nas2007 · Aug 23, 2010

LT1RX7 Drifter said:
hello new to 600 club i run a nextgen 400/600digi in a magnum xxxl 6' vented hood in a 3x3x5 cabinet growing scrog, sunmaster bulbs, fox farm nutrients, 6 5gal dwc, lots of ventilation no co2 harvest is usually a 1-1.5 lbs cured

first welcome to the 600 club. nice to see some one with a magnum xxxl 6" im planning to get one next week to put in my 1.2m x 1.2m 2m tall tent. how has ur expereince been with the magnum? and how are the temps with the magnum thanks drifter

bajafox · Aug 23, 2010

Unfortunately I don't know the age of this girl, she was donated to me a few months ago from my budtender who had to get rid of them. Here is a before and after of Delilah, my G13, I'm guessing she is about 18 - 21 days from harvest... She measured 23" from soil last time I checked. I started 12/12 on 7/22. We've had a heat wave here lately so I've had to switch over to 400w for a few hours during the day but I'm picking up an ac unit today to crank it back up to 600w SL

Attached are a few pics of the day I brought her home (6/11) and a pic from about 4 days ago, hope you enjoy

LT1RX7 Drifter · Aug 23, 2010

the magnum xxxl 6" works very well i use a 6" duct fan for cooling due to duct work being very short, hood only has about 2 inches around it and the side of my cabinet 37"x37"x78", excellent light cut off from reflector, use a 8" can fan and scrubber for venting cabinet, cool air is pulled from garage floor which works as a my ac for the summer, i keep the hood about 14" from tops, bitch is heavy though almost 35lbs with bulb and cord and glass installed use heavy duty hangers , sorry peeps no pics during grows i will take some after harvest this next time around

nas2007 · Aug 23, 2010

LT1RX7 Drifter said:
the magnum xxxl 6" works very well i use a 6" duct fan for cooling due to duct work being very short, hood only has about 2 inches around it and the side of my cabinet 37"x37"x78", excellent light cut off from reflector, use a 8" can fan and scrubber for venting cabinet, cool air is pulled from garage floor which works as a my ac for the summer, i keep the hood about 14" from tops, bitch is heavy though almost 35lbs with bulb and cord and glass installed use heavy duty hangers , sorry peeps no pics during grows i will take some after harvest this next time around

nice one, ill be getting one in few weeks, just in time for my flowering period. cant wait thanks drifter

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