Dankroots Gavita Pro 1000e DE - 4 8gal RDWC

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Dankroots619 said:
yeah these seedlings are growing crazy. Can't wait for roots to hit water. This light is killing it. Picking up another here soon. Want to get 4 in total. After this run expanding system to 12, 13gal ropak buckets under 4 gravitas. Going to run them at 600, 750w each.

Been reading up on the top booster, dropping it and getting top shooter. Dropping dm zone and getting roots excel, nitrogen boost, algen extract here soon.
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You don't have to get all that bro. Wouldn't the Multi zen be your best option? Nitro boost, no bro don't. And theres better sea weed out there then Algen, i swear to you. And cheaper also. Not trying to knock this, I'm loving watching this thread.
 
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a mongo frog said:
You don't have to get all that bro. Wouldn't the Multi zen be your best option? Nitro boost, no bro don't. And theres better sea weed out there then Algen, i swear to you. And cheaper also. Not trying to knock this, I'm loving watching this thread.
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I've mixed and matched stuff in the past and had really bad results. Wanting this grow to go as smooth as possible. I get a 25% discount at my local spot.

What do you recommend? Aquaflakes, roots excel, multi zen and budxl?
 
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Dankroots619 said:
I've mixed and matched stuff in the past and had really bad results. Wanting this grow to go as smooth as possible. I get a 25% discount at my local spot.

What do you recommend?
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Can you get 25% off alg a mic? I like that for veg with cal mag. If you want roots excel get that too. I used to use it. But thats it for veg. And of course your aqua flakes. For flower A&B,Multi zen,and cal mag for the first 4 weeks. Again if you want roots excel then you can do that. Next 4 weeks A&B, cal mag, and finish with shooting powder/Top shooter. I really like the bud xl, but I'm not sure if its a snake oil or not.
 
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a mongo frog said:
Can you get 25% off alg a mic? I like that for veg with cal mag. If you want roots excel get that too. I used to use it. But thats it for veg. And of course your aqua flakes. For flower A&B,Multi zen,and cal mag for the first 4 weeks. Again if you want roots excel then you can do that. Next 4 weeks A&B, cal mag, and finish with shooting powder/Top shooter. I really like the bud xl, but I'm not sure if its a snake oil or not.
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I'll have to check and see if they stock it. Going to pick up roots excel and the multizen and a bottle of top shooter. Already have budxl and calimagic. Thanks for the tip, save me some cash.

I shouldn't run into problems running roots excel in RDWC? Read mix feelings. My water temp is always at 64f now. And plenty of air to system.
 
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Dankroots619 said:
I'll have to check and see if they stock it. Going to pick up roots excel and the multizen and a bottle of top shooter. Already have budxl and calimagic. Thanks for the tip, save me some cash.

I shouldn't run into problems running roots excel in RDWC? Read mix feelings. My water temp is always at 64f now. And plenty of air to system.
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That I don't know about roots excel and RDWC. Tag Sativied to your thread, he knows his shit big time.
 
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a mongo frog said:
That I don't know about roots excel and RDWC. Tag Sativied to your thread, he knows his shit big time.
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Not sure how to tag. On h&g website they have an official Dwc feed chart so I'm sure it's ok to run. Would like to get some insite. As of now been running sterile with dm zone. Have ran roots excel in an aero cloner and its the shit. Would love to run it it my system and ditch the dm zone.
 
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Main things I didn't like about root excel were the price and staining the roots and the soup. Not in a bad enough way but when I stopped using it I didn't get any less roots either. It is suitable for rdwc though.

As you can see in @Hot Diggity Sog 's thread he got good results with just aquaflakes and zone too. I used most of the H&G line (no algen or aminos) and while I got great results I found that the same goes for not messing up the clean aquaflakes soup with unnecessary stuff. Top shooter is tricky, the times it added more bud it foxtailed badly and seemed to extend the flower time.

Also usually don't need calmag, plenty of both in the aquaflakes already, it's complete.

Multizen is nice to have especially when vegging 4 plants for 1 bulb. Strong stuff though, high in N.
 
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Sativied said:
Main things I didn't like about root excel were the price and staining the roots and the soup. Not in a bad enough way but when I stopped using it I didn't get any less roots either. It is suitable for rdwc though.

As you can see in @Hot Diggity Sog 's thread he got good results with just aquaflakes and zone too. I used most of the H&G line (no algen or aminos) and while I got great results I found that the same goes for not messing up the clean aquaflakes soup with unnecessary stuff. Top shooter is tricky, the times it added more bud it foxtailed badly and seemed to extend the flower time.

Also usually don't need calmag, plenty of both in the aquaflakes already, it's complete.

Multizen is nice to have especially when vegging 4 plants for 1 bulb. Strong stuff though, high in N.
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Thanks sativied, I really appriciate the input. Can I run multizen with dm zone? The aquaflakes and the dm zone I'm using right now are working very well, if it's not broke don't fix it lol. If that's all I need and maybe add the multi Zen. Than Going that route.
 
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Dankroots619 said:
Thanks sativied, I really appriciate the input. Can I run multizen with dm zone? The aquaflakes and the dm zone I'm using right now are working very well, if it's not broke don't fix it lol. If that's all I need and maybe add the multi Zen.
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Exactly. Especially when switching to a new setup it's better to not add too many additional variables.

I'm pretty sure you can use the enzym with zone (I used it with bleech) but it could affect its effectiveness. H&G enzym is more like enzyms + veg (n) booster in one, even if it would mess with the effect of the enzyms it will still function as a veg/N boost. I think it's nice to have, also for motherplants and a few drops for cuttings, but not really necessary either.
 
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Exactly. Especially when switching to a new setup it's better to not add too many additional variables.

I'm pretty sure you can use the enzym with zone (I used it with bleech) but it could affect its effectiveness. H&G enzym is more like enzyms + veg (n) booster in one, even if it would mess with the effect of the enzyms it will still function as a veg/N boost. I think it's nice to have, also for motherplants and a few drops for cuttings, but not really necessary either.
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Really worried about Brown slime I've had in the past in other systems. I'm Going to pick up multi Zen, drip clean. Just run aquaflakes, multi Zen, roots excel, drip clean, and dm zone. Prob drop the dm zone for roots excel.
 
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I think you can combine zone and enzym but zone and root exel combined probably won't match well. If you really want to use the root exel you could start out with that and switch to zone at the very first sign of trouble, i.e. If the soup starts smelling bad,
 
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Day 7
Looking good, the days are starting to heat up!! Hopeing I can get this grow in before the temps get to high. Day temp are around 74f _ 77f Still running under 78f.

Ph has been a stable 5.8 for almost a week and water temp is on point.

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ive been top feeding them here and there. water level is about 1.5 inches under net pot. the seedlings are in 1" rockool cubes and are burried about 1" from the bottom of the net pot, no signs yet but im affraid that the rockwool may get to saturated and rot!! Prob going to stop top feeding them. still no signs of root drop in any of the other netpots. Plants look healthy so far.

Im going to be doing a full nute change outs every 7 days and lightly clean and flush system out during change outs. How often do you all let your water run for before a change out?
 
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come tax season, picking up a gorilla 5x9 tent or there 8x8 and another gavita 1000e de series and a 12000 btu mini split. hopeing this run turns out good, so i can really put in some work next run. would 2 gavitas 1ks cover an 8x8? building a larger RDWC system. probably run 13gal ropaks x 12 to 16 sites. Also picking up a hydrogen pro co2 gen and a sentinel chhc4 off my buddy in the next week or so for 400$!! Want to run the new tent sealed with the mini split and run co2.
 
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1k gavita covers 5x5 square roughly. Used on 4x4 by some, 4x6 is doable too (the footprint isn't exactly square). It's impossible to get an optimal spread with 2 hps on a square surface. With the overlap in the center the 5x9 is a great match for 2k. In the 8x8 tent you could cover 8x6, especially when boosted. Not saying it's impossible but 2 x 1k on 8x8 spreads out the light too much, results in more space for buds/colas including more stems, and often more leafy, and not necessarily more bud in total.
 
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HydroGrowLover said:
Your hydro setup is exactly what I plan to do. Can you go over your design. I plan on using 4 waterfarms, similar to your buckets.
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I basically looked at the current culture UC4XL and built it to spec, there not very hard to build. To me building a system and watching it run is about 80% of the fun for me. not too sure about the waterfarms, but drill holes and add bulkheads and connect them.
 
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1k gavita covers 5x5 square roughly. Used on 4x4 by some, 4x6 is doable too (the footprint isn't exactly square). It's impossible to get an optimal spread with 2 hps on a square surface. With the overlap in the center the 5x9 is a great match for 2k. In the 8x8 tent you could cover 8x6, especially when boosted. Not saying it's impossible but 2 x 1k on 8x8 spreads out the light too much, results in more space for buds/colas including more stems, and often more leafy, and not necessarily more bud in total.
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Ok filed taxes and they were accepted, Picking up another gavita 1000e series and an ideal air dual hose portable 12k btu in about 2 weeks. dont feel like messing with vaccum lines, just want to plug and go. the dual hose has one 6" hose for intak and one for exhaust. so theoretically there shouldnt be any air exchange???
 
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