defoliation?

larrybobkins

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ive never used a pot this big but it looks like its going to be massive so far I think 25gal for soil is just as good as 32gal minus the extra money soil. one regular hooded 600w hps on top and 1 600w hps cooltube hung vertical as close to possible to it.. with an exhale co2bag using G.O. Box (general organics) and I mylared the whole place even the floor. with an industrial 6in fan
 

larrybobkins

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I vegged between 1 1/2- 2 months my space is 4ft by 8ft by 8ft I think the bush was 3'x3' when I switched to 12 12 idk how much it will grow it just now started getting the little bunch of leaves where the buds eventually grow. its supposedly blue moon hashplant crossed with blueberry something
 

larrybobkins

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and even though the room is long I have a big box that has a side covered in mylar that I move up like in the pic so that its completely surrounded by mylar on all 4 sides
 

klashnekoffsmoker

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I got 2.4 x 1.2 x 2 m and I got 5 in 6th week of flower in 15-20 ltrs and 12 in 30 ltrs in 1st week of flower I never used 30 ltrs so I dunno what to expect, I vegd the 12 for a month, Im preying I got enough space loool!!!!
 

larrybobkins

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would it be a water thing if my leaves look droopy at the end of the day but perk back up like 15 min after water? just slight droop and no burn. and hellyeah like my signature says its my #1 golden rule I go by since I started. and when you go from less than 10gal and go up to say 15 or 25 its a BIG difference in plant structure even
 

larrybobkins

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it was just weird my plants been fine this whole time but last night it looked like an umbrella and the leaves were layin on eachother so I watered and by the next morning it was perky as hell. thinking I might need to be watering more water
 

BenFranklin

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Think of this... if all those leaves were blocking all of the budding sites, then how did the budding sites get there to begin with??

Leave it alone, it'll grow!!!
 

larrybobkins

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you can do it old school or you can get with the times its up 2 you. its scientifically proven that manipulating a cannabis plant produces higher yields if you do your research. its up to the grower and how good they are some people have it and some definitely don't just remember never be one of those "its good enough" guys or "I know what im doing" guys always listen to everyones advice and decide what works for you
 

Mr.Marijuana420

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its all in the root system people with experience like to push it further and get more yield some people say "I did good enough" and don't mess with new methods. but if people can do mainlining and successfully because ive seen it then you are not doing what this guy says unless your hacking away at it. its all on your environment if the environments good they work with you. you don't have to go to the extremes of mainlining or even cutting half the leaves just cut the 4 or 5 that really bug you an see if it effects it, bet it wont
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-main-lining-thread.542308/
How could you know cutting leaves affects anything unless you had an identical clone, cut at the same, without defoliating it to compare. you don't. Do what you want they aren't my plants, but I guarantee u aren't upping your yield at all by defoliating
 

larrybobkins

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showing ignorance much I don't do seed I do clones and I have done 9 of these exact ones and its SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN IN STANDARDIZED TESTING get educated then come back. don't assume you know what someone has or is doing just makes you look dumb as hell lmao. its one thing to have an opinion its another to argue with fact
 

larrybobkins

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Think of this... if all those leaves were blocking all of the budding sites, then how did the budding sites get there to begin with??

Leave it alone, it'll grow!!!
just because there is a bud site just means enough light has gotten to the spot to make a bud it doesn't determine HOW much light the bud is getting. if its only getting hit with half the light its only going to be half the bud it could have been.
 

larrybobkins

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How could you know cutting leaves affects anything unless you had an identical clone, cut at the same, without defoliating it to compare. you don't. Do what you want they aren't my plants, but I guarantee u aren't upping your yield at all by defoliating
"how do you know cutting leaves effects anything" I know from experience, education and from working with large scale growers who work with the dispensaries...but go ahead an take this guys "guarantee" lol
 

chuck estevez

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How could you know cutting leaves affects anything unless you had an identical clone, cut at the same, without defoliating it to compare. you don't. Do what you want they aren't my plants, but I guarantee u aren't upping your yield at all by defoliating
Actually, He probably is upping his yield, BUT, he has to veg longer for the plant to be trained. So, you really need to compare the costs of vegging longer vs the increase in yield. If you didn't defoliate and vegged longer for a 6ft plant vs a 3 ft plant, you would be upping your yield. It's not a NEW technique, it's just a way for these guys to justify what they do.
 

larrybobkins

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yes this is true I veg for 1/12 months but in that time my bush gets 3'ft by 3ft every time unless I have an issue with say spidermites(happened one time in the past its horrible)
 
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