Did I Mess Up My Cure?

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DankNoTill

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Hi guys. First time posting here as I just harvested, dried for 2 weeks (60T/60H) and have been "curing" in jars with hygrometers for 6 weeks+. I was told/learned that you burp for first 1-3 weeks until humidity is 60-62 (62 being ideal) then don't open again until ready to consume. Is that the "best" way to cure? I ask because yesterday I randomly decided to open one of my jars and noticed a bit of yellowing inside a few buds so I decided to check everything and noticed my biggest buds had some white fuzz in them upon looking with my 30x loupe. When cracking the buds under light I notice a dust that goes up almost like a smoke. I know that it is 100% mold/fungus and I'm not discouraged because everything is a learning experience but what exactly caused this? I have the jars in a cooler and temp never goes above 69F but sometimes I'll put an ice pack ontop of a thick stack of paper towel ontop of the jars to drop the temp inside. Any input or help is greatly appreciated as I really tried to take all steps to prevent anything like this from happening. Thanks in advance!
 
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Sawzall77

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That seems odd to me for sure given the steps you took.... hmmm ... did you wet trim? Or hang with most leaves on? How big were the buds being dried?

Maybe the jars are being kept too cool? You mentioned that I’ve pack you set near the jars... humidity will rise as temps drop as cold air can’t hold moisture like warmer air. But I don’t see that being the problem.

I also don’t see how the buds would be too wet going into jars given your method... 2 weeks is really good!

I’ll be interested what others have to say! That sucks though bro. I’m going to check my jars!....brb....lmao
 
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DankNoTill

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Sawzall77 said:
That seems odd to me for sure given the steps you took.... hmmm ... did you wet trim? Or hang with most leaves on? How big were the buds being dried?

Maybe the jars are being kept too cool? You mentioned that I’ve pack you set near the jars... humidity will rise as temps drop as cold air can’t hold moisture like warmer air. But I don’t see that being the problem.

I also don’t see how the buds would be too wet going into jars given your method... 2 weeks is really good!

I’ll be interested what others have to say! That sucks though bro. I’m going to check my jars!....brb....lmao
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Hi and thank you for the reply, I whole plant hung and dry trimmed. The biggest buds were maybe 2-3g as I didn't scale any of them and instead just scaled the jars afterwards. Ended up with a 1/2lb of organic goodness aside from the mold lol. The smaller buds seem completely unaffected of course being that they aren't as dense and large. The temp in jars never went lower than 60 on the meters with ice pack in but perhaps that was too low? I just didn't want temps to go above 70. 2 weeks seemed good to me too but next run I might push for 3+ weeks as I'm starting to think maybe they weren't "fully" dried yet even tho stems snapped idk. Because of this I'm now scared for next harvest knowing what could happen. I am not a butcher when I do things either, I take proper steps when care is needed.
 
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Bobby Long Buds

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My opinion after trying and reading about this is that the “cure” is mostly nonsense.
Dry it in a room at roughly 55% humidity for atleast 2 weeks (or a month it don’t matter) untill the biggest bud on the line will smoke without going out in a joint. Then put it away and never look at it again till you want it.
If ya don’t believe me just try it for yourself. Good bud is good after 2 weeks and only gets slightly better with time.
Forget about the ice packs and humidity in the jar and so on. It’s all nonsense.
Renfro is a much more intelligent member then I and I think he would tell you the same thing. I wasted too many years of my life trying to “cure weed” learn from my mistakes.
 
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DankNoTill

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Bobby Long Buds said:
My opinion after trying and reading about this is that the “cure” is mostly nonsense.
Dry it in a room at roughly 55% humidity for atleast 2 weeks (or a month it don’t matter) untill the biggest bud on the line will smoke without going out in a joint. Then put it away and never look at it again till you want it.
If ya don’t believe me just try it for yourself. Good bud is good after 2 weeks and only gets slightly better with time.
Forget about the ice packs and humidity in the jar and so on. It’s all nonsense.
Renfro is a much more intelligent member then I and I think he would tell you the same thing. I wasted too many years of my life trying to “cure weed” learn from my mistakes.
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I appreciate the reply, weird thing is I was just reading something similar about how "needed" the cure is.
I did do the 2 week dry but only went by stem snap and although the fan leaves/sugar leaves felt somewhat crispy I still questioned if the buds were ready to jar as this was my first grow. I did countless hours of research on nearly every aspect of growing but found a lot of contradicting "opinions" and what seems like folk lore or more like "well that's just how it's always been done" rather than if it's actually proper. I would just love to know at which point and why this mold showed up. I of course have 24hr ventilation with fans oscillating. I did not do the "keep humidity under 40%" in flower thing that I've read about because 40% humidity doesn't even fit into a VPD chart. I honestly felt that as long as you have proper airflow and exchange that humidity shouldn't be an issue, within reason (under 70-80%). Although my humidity rarely went above 65%.
 
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Bobby Long Buds

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DankNoTill said:
I appreciate the reply, weird thing is I was just reading something similar about how "needed" the cure is.
I did do the 2 week dry but only went by stem snap and although the fan leaves/sugar leaves felt somewhat crispy I still questioned if the buds were ready to jar as this was my first grow. I did countless hours of research on nearly every aspect of growing but found a lot of contradicting "opinions" and what seems like folk lore or more like "well that's just how it's always been done" rather than if it's actually proper. I would just love to know at which point and why this mold showed up. I of course have 24hr ventilation with fans oscillating. I did not do the "keep humidity under 40%" in flower thing that I've read about because 40% humidity doesn't even fit into a VPD chart. I honestly felt that as long as you have proper airflow and exchange that humidity shouldn't be an issue, within reason (under 70-80%). Although my humidity rarely went above 65%.
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If your buds were not moldy before they were jarred then they weren’t totally dry.
If they were moldy when you harvested then that’s a different problem.
If only the bigger buds molded during the first 2 weeks then you need to lower the humidity in the dry room.

I think the only way for you to figure out how to cure is trial and error but please next time just leave a few grams drying for a month @ 55 % room humidity. You will see it’s the same quality or better then the rest.
 
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70's natureboy

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What, King grow hasn't busted your balls yet lol? I have a new theory on drying. I did the glass jar cure for a while and my quality seemed to go down. I must not be smart enough.. My new theory is, do we grow weed to smoke it or store it? After growing some dank bud who wouldn't want to smoke some as soon as it was ready? If the weed is too wet to smoke then it's too wet to store. You need to test out your harvest and when it smokes and tastes awesome then you can think about storing it.

I do hang dry whole plants for 5-10 days depending on humidity and then trim it and put it in paper grocery bags until it smokes awesome. Could be 3 days could be 7 days. I tried 60/60 drying too and didn't like it, too cold and too humid. I shoot for 65 degrees and 55% humidity. This is the only way I can get good tasting weed.
 
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DankNoTill

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Bobby Long Buds said:
If your buds were not moldy before they were jarred then they weren’t totally dry.
If they were moldy when you harvested then that’s a different problem.
If only the bigger buds molded during the first 2 weeks then you need to lower the humidity in the dry room.

I think the only way for you to figure out how to cure is trial and error but please next time just leave a few grams drying for a month @ 55 % room humidity. You will see it’s the same quality or better then the rest.
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Bobby Long Buds said:
If your buds were not moldy before they were jarred then they weren’t totally dry.
If they were moldy when you harvested then that’s a different problem.
If only the bigger buds molded during the first 2 weeks then you need to lower the humidity in the dry room.

I think the only way for you to figure out how to cure is trial and error but please next time just leave a few grams drying for a month @ 55 % room humidity. You will see it’s the same quality or better then the rest.
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I honestly can't say whether or not the mold was before jarring as I didn't bust out my loupe until I noticed yellowing at the stem of the buds. I definitely would have noticed the yellowing at harvest so I guess this happened inside the jar and they weren't properly dried unfortunately.


I honestly can't say whether or not the mold was before jarring as I didn't bust out my loupe until I noticed yellowing at the stem of the buds. I definitely would have noticed the yellowing at harvest so I guess this happened inside the jar and they weren't properly dried unfortunately. The mold isn't on the outside of buds and isn't visible once I bust the bud apart only prior.

70's natureboy said:
What, King grow hasn't busted your balls yet lol? I have a new theory on drying. I did the glass jar cure for a while and my quality seemed to go down. I must not be smart enough.. My new theory is, do we grow weed to smoke it or store it? After growing some dank bud who wouldn't want to smoke some as soon as it was ready? If the weed is too wet to smoke then it's too wet to store. You need to test out your harvest and when it smokes and tastes awesome then you can think about storing it.

I do hang dry whole plants for 5-10 days depending on humidity and then trim it and put it in paper grocery bags until it smokes awesome. Could be 3 days could be 7 days. I tried 60/60 drying too and didn't like it, too cold and too humid. I shoot for 65 degrees and 55% humidity. This is the only way I can get good tasting weed.
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waterproof808 said:
the whole jar your buds as soon as it appears dry and burp it daily for weeks is how you ruin weed. Weed does not improve by jarring early and "sweating" the remaining moisture out in a sealed jar.
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That theory 100% makes sense but I thought the cure was to allow chlorophyll etc to break down and provide a smoother smoke.
I tried to handle my buds as little as possible during harvest to preserve the trichs so I can't even say if it was smoke able at that point. I honestly wish I just came here to ask for advice prior to the harvest but I figured I could conclude that this was the way to go. So what would be advisable at this point with them still being in jars? Take them all out? I of course took them all out yesterday and went through everything leaving them out for a bit. I appreciate all input, criticism or not.
 
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Bobby Long Buds

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DankNoTill said:
I honestly can't say whether or not the mold was before jarring as I didn't bust out my loupe until I noticed yellowing at the stem of the buds. I definitely would have noticed the yellowing at harvest so I guess this happened inside the jar and they weren't properly dried unfortunately.


I honestly can't say whether or not the mold was before jarring as I didn't bust out my loupe until I noticed yellowing at the stem of the buds. I definitely would have noticed the yellowing at harvest so I guess this happened inside the jar and they weren't properly dried unfortunately. The mold isn't on the outside of buds and isn't visible once I bust the bud apart only prior.





That theory 100% makes sense but I thought the cure was to allow chlorophyll etc to break down and provide a smoother smoke.
I tried to handle my buds as little as possible during harvest to preserve the trichs so I can't even say if it was smoke able at that point. I honestly wish I just came here to ask for advice prior to the harvest but I figured I could conclude that this was the way to go. So what would be advisable at this point with them still being in jars? Take them all out? I of course took them all out yesterday and went through everything leaving them out for a bit. I appreciate all input, criticism or not.
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The chlorophyll thing may be true but as king grow has stated before in previous posts, there will always be moisture in the buds anyway. They will not dry down to 0% moisture content. Just don’t flash dry them in an oven.
The problem is that if you asked for advise it would have been all over the map anyway. Haha just try it
 
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DankNoTill

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Bobby Long Buds said:
The chlorophyll thing may be true but as king grow has stated before in previous posts, there will always be moisture in the buds anyway. They will not dry down to 0% moisture content. Just don’t flash dry them in an oven.
The problem is that if you asked for advise it would have been all over the map anyway. Haha just try it
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Understandable, next harvest I'm going to dry until they are definitely dry and safe to be jarred.
I took too much precaution in not handling the buds to know their moisture content other than stem snap. By no means were they squishy though.
 
bird mcbride

bird mcbride

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Dry, sweat, dry, sweat again, dry again. Continue until done.

I do an RO water, roots off flush after the chop. I allow each snip about .5 liter of RO water before hanging to dry. Best to hang your snips with purified water than res water. Works for soil grows also.
 
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DankNoTill

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bird mcbride said:
Dry, sweat, dry, sweat again, dry again. Continue until done.

I do an RO water, roots off flush after the chop. I allow each snip about .5 liter of RO water before hanging to dry. Best to hang your snips with purified water than res water. Works for soil grows also.
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I grow in no till living soil so flushing of any kind is off the table unfortunately. I don't even get runoff.


waterproof808 said:
the whole jar your buds as soon as it appears dry and burp it daily for weeks is how you ruin weed. Weed does not improve by jarring early and "sweating" the remaining moisture out in a sealed jar.
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Lol the contradiction kills me, one dude says sweat good other says sweat bad.
 
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DankNoTill

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waterproof808 said:
Well, sweat wasnt good for your situation...next time maybe try both ways and see what you like better.
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For sure but what was the other way lol? You just said sweating ruins weed but didn't say what doesn't haha.

70's natureboy said:
Thats the way advice goes around here. You're good,.....no you're not good, welcome to roll it up. Somebody said that years ago and it cracked me up so I quoted it in my sig roflmfao.
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Lmao true enough.
 
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